Best/Worst Quarterback First round class
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Here is every QB drafted in the First Round of Each Year. Select those Years that you think are perhaps the Top 5, and some years you think are the worst. Noted players are in the HOF:
1937 Sammy Baugh
1939 Davey O'Brien, Sid Luckman
1942 Frankie Albert
1943 Paul Governali
1944 Otto Graham, Angelo Bertinelli
1945 Jim Hardy
1946 Johnny Lujack, Boley Dancewiscz
1947 Ernie Case
1948 YA Tittle, Bobby Layne
1949 Frank Tripuka, Bobby Thomason, Stan Heath, John Rauch
1950 Travis Tidwill, Adrian Burk,
1951 Bob Williams
1952 Harry Agannis, Babe Parilli, Billy Wade
1953 Ted Marchibroda, John Scarbath
1954 Bobby Garrett, Lamar McHan, Cotton Davidson
1955 George Shaw, Ralph Gugliemi
1956 Earl Morrall
1957 John Brodie, Len Dawson
1958 King Hill
1959 Randy Duncan, Don Allard, Lee Grosscup
1960 George Izo, Richie Lucas
1961 Norm Snead, Billy Kilmer
1962 Roman Gabriel, John Hadl, Sandy Stephens
1963 Terry Baker
1964 Jack Concannon, Pete Beathard, Bill Munson
1965 Joe Namath, Craig Morton
1966 Rick Norton, Randy Johnson
1967 Steve Spurrier, Bob Griese, Don Horn
1968 Greg Landry
1969 Greg Cook, Marty Domres
1970 Terry Bradshaw, Mike Phipps
1971 Jim Plunkett, Archie Manning, Dan Pastorini
1972 Jerry Tagge, John Reaves
1973 Bert Jones
1974 -------(no 1st round QB taken)
1975 Steve Bartkowski
1976 Richard Todd
1977 Steve Pisarkewicsz, Tommy Kramer
1978 Doug Williams
1979 Jack Thompson, Phil Simms, Steve Fuller
1980 Marc Wilson, Mark Malone
1981 Rich Campbell
1982 Art Schlichter, Jim McMahon
1983 John Elway, Todd Blackledge, Jim Kelly, Tony Eason, Ken O'Brien, Dan Marino
1984 -------(none taken)
1985 -------(none taken...but note: Bernie Kosar taken in 1st round of Supp Draft)
1986 Jim Everett, Chuck Long
1987 Vinny Testaverde, Kelly Stouffer, Chris Miller, Jim Harbaugh
1988 ------(none taken)
1989 Troy Aikman
1990 Jeff George, Andre Ware
1991 Dan McGwire, Todd Marinovich
1992 David Klingler, Tommy Maddox
1993 Drew Bledsoe, Rick Mirer
1994 Heath Shuler, Trent Dilfer
1995 Steve McNair, Kerry Collins
1996 -----(none taken)
1997 Jim Druckenmiller
1998 Peyton Manning, Ryan Leaf
1999 Tim Couch, Donvan McNabb, Akili Smith, Daunte Culpepper, Cade McNown
2000 Chad Pennington
2001 Michael Vick
2002 David Carr, Joey Harrington, Patrick Ramsey
2003 Carson Palmer, Byron Leftwich, Kyle Boller, Rex Grossman
2004 Eli Manning, Phillip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger, JP Losman
2005 Alex Smith, Aaron Rodgers, Jason Campbell
2006 Vince Young, Matt Leinert
2007 Jamarcus Russell, Brady Quinn
2008 Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco
2009 Matthew Stafford, Mark Sanchez, Josh Freeman
2010 Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow
2011 Cam Newton, Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder
2012 Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III, Ryan Tannehill, Brandon Weeden
2013 EJ Manual
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Best 5 years:
1983, clearly with 3 HOFers in Elway/Kelly/Marino plus one other very productive QB in O'Brien
1948 the only other year in which 2 HOFers were taken in the first round: Tittle/Layne
2004 by the time they are done Manning/Rivers/Roethlisberger will have been some of the most productive QBs in history...not even counting their rings
1957 The duo of Len Dawson and John Brodie is one of the most productive in history
1971 Jim Plunkett, Dan Pastorini and Archie Manning is a very productive group
Honorable Mention: 1962 John Hadl and Roman Gabriel are perhaps the two QBs just on the outside looking in at the HOF
Worst 5 drafts: (note, for this, I am pretty much ignoring any year where either 0 or 1 QB was taken. I need at least 2 or more big time busts to come out of a draft):
1949 John Rauch and Stan Heath started a total of 3 career games between them and Bobby Thomason was way below average
1991 Dan McGwire and Todd Marinovich....not much more need be said. 13 career starts between them. Marinovich out of the league after only a year, McGwire after 3-4 years.
1959 Randy Duncan, Don Allard, and Lee Grosscup. Three first round picks, 6 total career starts.
2007 Jamarcus Russell and Brady Quinn. 11-34 in their career starts. Russell probably the biggest bust since the merger of 1970
1960 Geoge Izo and Richie Lucas, 10 career starts between them. (too bad because Izo is a Barberton guy)
Honorable mention: 2002 Carr, Harrington, Patrick Ramsey
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One thing I noticed? There hasnt been a complete bust year since 2010 and were about due lol.
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
One thing I noticed? There hasnt been a complete bust year since 2010 and were about due lol.
Actually, the thing I notice is that lately there have generally been more QBs taken in the first round. Of course, there are more teams now to affect those numbers, still, I think the enhanced importance of the QB position in the game will lead more teams to gamble on QBs in the first round......and parenthetically, I think you could end up with a bigger group of "busts" in the first round at the qB slot.
I think that has happened with the likes of Ponder, Gabbert, Weeden and others.
But then you may also get more hits. The following were second rounders who today may have been upgraded to first rounders:
Tobin Rote
Milt Plum
Neil Lomax #33
Brett Favre #33
Ken Stabler #52
Ron Jawoski #37
Boomer Esiason #38
Randall Cunningham #37
Jake Plummer #42
Of course, a fair share of second rounders who may have been upgraded were busts in their careers as well.
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Of course, the relevence of this thread is which list perhaps will the names likely on the 2014 list Join? The 1983/1948/2004 etc. list, or the 1949/2007/1959 etc. list......or be somewhere in between.
Where will the names Bortles/Bridgewater/Manziel/Carr fall? In one of those lists...or in between? And will one of those guys have The Cleveland Browns associated with them?
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One thing I noticed? There hasnt been a complete bust year since 2010 and were about due lol.
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
One thing I noticed? There hasnt been a complete bust year since 2010 and were about due lol.
I don't think Bradford is a bust and Tebow did win a playoff game.
Now a complete bust year was 2007. Brady Quinn and Jamarcus Russell..................DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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XxDaBuckeyexX said:
One thing I noticed? There hasnt been a complete bust year since 2010 and were about due lol.
I don't think Bradford is a bust and Tebow did win a playoff game.
Now a complete bust year was 2007. Brady Quinn and Jamarcus Russell..................DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't think Bradford is a bust and Tebow did win a playoff game.
Now a complete bust year was 2007. Brady Quinn and Jamarcus Russell..................DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, notice I asked you to state your 5 best and 5 worst years.
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How many of these guys, if you knew how their career would turn out, would draft in the first round again ... as high or higher than they went?
Mine are in bold:
1999 Tim Couch, Donvan McNabb, Akili Smith, Daunte Culpepper, Cade McNown
2000 Chud Pennington
2001 Michael Vick
2002 David Carr, Joey Harrington, Patrick Ramsey
2003 Carson Palmer, Byron Leftwich, Kyle Boller, Rex Grossman
2004 Eli Manning, Phillip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger, JP Losman
2005 Alex Smith, Aaron Rodgers, Jason Campbell
2006 Vince Young, Matt Leinert
2007 Jamarcus Russell, Brady Quinn
2008 Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco
2009 Matthew Stafford, Mark Sanchez, Josh Freeman
2010 Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow
2011 Cam Newton, Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder
2012 Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III, Ryan Tannehill, Brandon Weeden
2013 EJ Manual
10/41 ..24 %
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How many of these guys, if you knew how their career would turn out, would draft in the first round again ... as high or higher than they went?
Mine are in bold:
1999 Tim Couch, Donvan McNabb, Akili Smith, Daunte Culpepper, Cade McNown
2000 Chud Pennington
2001 Michael Vick
2002 David Carr, Joey Harrington, Patrick Ramsey
2003 Carson Palmer, Byron Leftwich, Kyle Boller, Rex Grossman
2004 Eli Manning, Phillip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger, JP Losman
2005 Alex Smith, Aaron Rodgers, Jason Campbell
2006 Vince Young, Matt Leinert
2007 Jamarcus Russell, Brady Quinn
2008 Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco
2009 Matthew Stafford, Mark Sanchez, Josh Freeman
2010 Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow
2011 Cam Newton, Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder
2012 Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III, Ryan Tannehill, Brandon Weeden
2013 EJ Manual
10/41 ..24 %
Zombo said:
How many of these guys, if you knew how their career would turn out, would draft in the first round again ... as high or higher than they went?
Mine are in bold:
1999 Tim Couch, Donvan McNabb, Akili Smith, Daunte Culpepper, Cade McNown
2000 Chud Pennington
2001 Michael Vick
2002 David Carr, Joey Harrington, Patrick Ramsey
2003 Carson Palmer, Byron Leftwich, Kyle Boller, Rex Grossman
2004 Eli Manning, Phillip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger, JP Losman
2005 Alex Smith, Aaron Rodgers, Jason Campbell
2006 Vince Young, Matt Leinert
2007 Jamarcus Russell, Brady Quinn
2008 Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco
2009 Matthew Stafford, Mark Sanchez, Josh Freeman
2010 Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow
2011 Cam Newton, Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder
2012 Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III, Ryan Tannehill, Brandon Weeden
2013 EJ Manual
10/41 ..24 %
I think Carson Palmer initially earned at least first round status...if not #1 overall. Injuries got him....but he seem rejuvenated in Arizona this year. That team is 10-5.....and if it wins its home game vs. the 49ers it is in the playoffs, in large part due to Palmer.
So I would mark him up as well.
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Zombo said:
How many of these guys, if you knew how their career would turn out, would draft in the first round again ... as high or higher than they went?
Mine are in bold:
1999 Tim Couch, Donvan McNabb, Akili Smith, Daunte Culpepper, Cade McNown
2000 Chud Pennington
2001 Michael Vick
2002 David Carr, Joey Harrington, Patrick Ramsey
2003 Carson Palmer, Byron Leftwich, Kyle Boller, Rex Grossman
2004 Eli Manning, Phillip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger, JP Losman
2005 Alex Smith, Aaron Rodgers, Jason Campbell
2006 Vince Young, Matt Leinert
2007 Jamarcus Russell, Brady Quinn
2008 Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco
2009 Matthew Stafford, Mark Sanchez, Josh Freeman
2010 Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow
2011 Cam Newton, Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder
2012 Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III, Ryan Tannehill, Brandon Weeden
2013 EJ Manual
10/41 ..24 %
I think Carson Palmer initially earned at least first round status...if not #1 overall. Injuries got him....but he seem rejuvenated in Arizona this year. That team is 10-5.....and if it wins its home game vs. the 49ers it is in the playoffs, in large part due to Palmer.
So I would mark him up as well.
I think Carson Palmer initially earned at least first round status...if not #1 overall. Injuries got him....but he seem rejuvenated in Arizona this year. That team is 10-5.....and if it wins its home game vs. the 49ers it is in the playoffs, in large part due to Palmer.
So I would mark him up as well.
Don't think he has every won a playoff game and his QB rating is Cambellesque since his big injury, but if you throw him in, and add Tannehill, who I am sure some believe in, then you are 12/41 or 29% success rate.
Since we are 0-3 on this list, maybe we are due, so we can hit that 25% mark.
Zombo
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