Best/Worst Quarterback First round class

The Gipper

Here is every QB drafted in the First Round of Each Year. Select those Years that you think are perhaps the Top 5, and some years you think are the worst. Noted players are in the HOF:

1937 Sammy Baugh

1939 Davey O'Brien, Sid Luckman

1942 Frankie Albert

1943 Paul Governali

1944 Otto Graham, Angelo Bertinelli

1945 Jim Hardy

1946 Johnny Lujack, Boley Dancewiscz

1947 Ernie Case

1948 YA Tittle, Bobby Layne

1949 Frank Tripuka, Bobby Thomason, Stan Heath, John Rauch

1950 Travis Tidwill, Adrian Burk,

1951 Bob Williams

1952 Harry Agannis, Babe Parilli, Billy Wade

1953 Ted Marchibroda, John Scarbath

1954 Bobby Garrett, Lamar McHan, Cotton Davidson

1955 George Shaw, Ralph Gugliemi

1956 Earl Morrall

1957 John Brodie, Len Dawson

1958 King Hill

1959 Randy Duncan, Don Allard, Lee Grosscup

1960 George Izo, Richie Lucas

1961 Norm Snead, Billy Kilmer

1962 Roman Gabriel, John Hadl, Sandy Stephens

1963 Terry Baker

1964 Jack Concannon, Pete Beathard, Bill Munson

1965 Joe Namath, Craig Morton

1966 Rick Norton, Randy Johnson

1967 Steve Spurrier, Bob Griese, Don Horn

1968 Greg Landry

1969 Greg Cook, Marty Domres

1970 Terry Bradshaw, Mike Phipps

1971 Jim Plunkett, Archie Manning, Dan Pastorini

1972 Jerry Tagge, John Reaves

1973 Bert Jones

1974 -------(no 1st round QB taken)

1975 Steve Bartkowski

1976 Richard Todd

1977 Steve Pisarkewicsz, Tommy Kramer

1978 Doug Williams

1979 Jack Thompson, Phil Simms, Steve Fuller

1980 Marc Wilson, Mark Malone

1981 Rich Campbell

1982 Art Schlichter, Jim McMahon

1983 John Elway, Todd Blackledge, Jim Kelly, Tony Eason, Ken O'Brien, Dan Marino

1984 -------(none taken)

1985 -------(none taken...but note: Bernie Kosar taken in 1st round of Supp Draft)

1986 Jim Everett, Chuck Long

1987 Vinny Testaverde, Kelly Stouffer, Chris Miller, Jim Harbaugh

1988 ------(none taken)

1989 Troy Aikman

1990 Jeff George, Andre Ware

1991 Dan McGwire, Todd Marinovich

1992 David Klingler, Tommy Maddox

1993 Drew Bledsoe, Rick Mirer

1994 Heath Shuler, Trent Dilfer

1995 Steve McNair, Kerry Collins

1996 -----(none taken)

1997 Jim Druckenmiller

1998 Peyton Manning, Ryan Leaf

1999 Tim Couch, Donvan McNabb, Akili Smith, Daunte Culpepper, Cade McNown

2000 Chad Pennington

2001 Michael Vick

2002 David Carr, Joey Harrington, Patrick Ramsey

2003 Carson Palmer, Byron Leftwich, Kyle Boller, Rex Grossman

2004 Eli Manning, Phillip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger, JP Losman

2005 Alex Smith, Aaron Rodgers, Jason Campbell

2006 Vince Young, Matt Leinert

2007 Jamarcus Russell, Brady Quinn

2008 Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco

2009 Matthew Stafford, Mark Sanchez, Josh Freeman

2010 Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow

2011 Cam Newton, Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder

2012 Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III, Ryan Tannehill, Brandon Weeden

2013 EJ Manual

Flyin J

One thing I noticed? There hasnt been a complete bust year since 2010 and were about due lol.

The Gipper

Best 5 years:

1983, clearly with 3 HOFers in Elway/Kelly/Marino plus one other very productive QB in O'Brien

1948 the only other year in which 2 HOFers were taken in the first round: Tittle/Layne

2004 by the time they are done Manning/Rivers/Roethlisberger will have been some of the most productive QBs in history...not even counting their rings

1957 The duo of Len Dawson and John Brodie is one of the most productive in history

1971 Jim Plunkett, Dan Pastorini and Archie Manning is a very productive group

Honorable Mention: 1962 John Hadl and Roman Gabriel are perhaps the two QBs just on the outside looking in at the HOF

Worst 5 drafts: (note, for this, I am pretty much ignoring any year where either 0 or 1 QB was taken. I need at least 2 or more big time busts to come out of a draft):

1949 John Rauch and Stan Heath started a total of 3 career games between them and Bobby Thomason was way below average

1991 Dan McGwire and Todd Marinovich....not much more need be said. 13 career starts between them. Marinovich out of the league after only a year, McGwire after 3-4 years.

1959 Randy Duncan, Don Allard, and Lee Grosscup. Three first round picks, 6 total career starts.

2007 Jamarcus Russell and Brady Quinn. 11-34 in their career starts. Russell probably the biggest bust since the merger of 1970

1960 Geoge Izo and Richie Lucas, 10 career starts between them. (too bad because Izo is a Barberton guy)

Honorable mention: 2002 Carr, Harrington, Patrick Ramsey

The Gipper

XxDaBuckeyexX said:
One thing I noticed? There hasnt been a complete bust year since 2010 and were about due lol.

Actually, the thing I notice is that lately there have generally been more QBs taken in the first round. Of course, there are more teams now to affect those numbers, still, I think the enhanced importance of the QB position in the game will lead more teams to gamble on QBs in the first round......and parenthetically, I think you could end up with a bigger group of "busts" in the first round at the qB slot.

I think that has happened with the likes of Ponder, Gabbert, Weeden and others.

But then you may also get more hits. The following were second rounders who today may have been upgraded to first rounders:

Tobin Rote

Milt Plum

Neil Lomax #33

Brett Favre #33

Ken Stabler #52

Ron Jawoski #37

Boomer Esiason #38

Randall Cunningham #37

Jake Plummer #42

Of course, a fair share of second rounders who may have been upgraded were busts in their careers as well.

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The Gipper

Of course, the relevence of this thread is which list perhaps will the names likely on the 2014 list Join? The 1983/1948/2004 etc. list, or the 1949/2007/1959 etc. list......or be somewhere in between.

Where will the names Bortles/Bridgewater/Manziel/Carr fall? In one of those lists...or in between? And will one of those guys have The Cleveland Browns associated with them?

Browns149

XxDaBuckeyexX said:
One thing I noticed? There hasnt been a complete bust year since 2010 and were about due lol.

I don't think Bradford is a bust and Tebow did win a playoff game.

Now a complete bust year was 2007. Brady Quinn and Jamarcus Russell..................DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Gipper

@browns149 said:

I don't think Bradford is a bust and Tebow did win a playoff game.

Now a complete bust year was 2007. Brady Quinn and Jamarcus Russell..................DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, notice I asked you to state your 5 best and 5 worst years.

Zombo

How many of these guys, if you knew how their career would turn out, would draft in the first round again ... as high or higher than they went?

Mine are in bold:

1999 Tim Couch, Donvan McNabb, Akili Smith, Daunte Culpepper, Cade McNown

2000 Chud Pennington

2001 Michael Vick

2002 David Carr, Joey Harrington, Patrick Ramsey

2003 Carson Palmer, Byron Leftwich, Kyle Boller, Rex Grossman

2004 Eli Manning, Phillip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger, JP Losman

2005 Alex Smith, Aaron Rodgers, Jason Campbell

2006 Vince Young, Matt Leinert

2007 Jamarcus Russell, Brady Quinn

2008 Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco

2009 Matthew Stafford, Mark Sanchez, Josh Freeman

2010 Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow

2011 Cam Newton, Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder

2012 Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III, Ryan Tannehill, Brandon Weeden

2013 EJ Manual

10/41 ..24 %

Flyin J

This means we have a 1/4 chance of landing a franchise QB? Lets use both first rounders on QB's lol

The Gipper

Zombo said:

How many of these guys, if you knew how their career would turn out, would draft in the first round again ... as high or higher than they went?

Mine are in bold:

1999 Tim Couch, Donvan McNabb, Akili Smith, Daunte Culpepper, Cade McNown

2000 Chud Pennington

2001 Michael Vick

2002 David Carr, Joey Harrington, Patrick Ramsey

2003 Carson Palmer, Byron Leftwich, Kyle Boller, Rex Grossman

2004 Eli Manning, Phillip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger, JP Losman

2005 Alex Smith, Aaron Rodgers, Jason Campbell

2006 Vince Young, Matt Leinert

2007 Jamarcus Russell, Brady Quinn

2008 Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco

2009 Matthew Stafford, Mark Sanchez, Josh Freeman

2010 Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow

2011 Cam Newton, Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder

2012 Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III, Ryan Tannehill, Brandon Weeden

2013 EJ Manual

10/41 ..24 %

I think Carson Palmer initially earned at least first round status...if not #1 overall. Injuries got him....but he seem rejuvenated in Arizona this year. That team is 10-5.....and if it wins its home game vs. the 49ers it is in the playoffs, in large part due to Palmer.

So I would mark him up as well.

Zombo

@the-gipper said:

I think Carson Palmer initially earned at least first round status...if not #1 overall. Injuries got him....but he seem rejuvenated in Arizona this year. That team is 10-5.....and if it wins its home game vs. the 49ers it is in the playoffs, in large part due to Palmer.

So I would mark him up as well.

Don't think he has every won a playoff game and his QB rating is Cambellesque since his big injury, but if you throw him in, and add Tannehill, who I am sure some believe in, then you are 12/41 or 29% success rate.

Since we are 0-3 on this list, maybe we are due, so we can hit that 25% mark.

Zombo