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  • S Spectralcow

    Actually, I think the better question is "What's wrong with that?" It results in a better team and some success. The only significantly negative aspect to it would be that Chud got the shaft from the FO from the beginning, but I've already kind of accepted that.

    @spectralcow said:

    Actually, I think the better question is "What's wrong with that?" It results in a better team and some success. The only significantly negative aspect to it would be that Chud got the shaft from the FO from the beginning, but I've already kind of accepted that.

    I don't have a problem with it at all, outside of Chud getting the shaft, as you said.

    If I were in McDaniels situation, I'd do the same thing. If it leads to us being perennial playoff contenders, then it doesn't matter. There's no room in the game for niceties.

    I just would rather see us get Brett Hundley or Blake Bortles, but I am (very slightly) warming up to the idea of Manziel. He's still my fourth choice, but he's at least been upgraded from "absolutely, positively, no way".

    I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride

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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @clevelandfanforlife said:

    Of course he's a smart guy. He went to THE John Carroll University. Only geniuses who are incredibly good-looking go there.

    He has better roots than that: He and I were born in the same hospital. He lived in my sister in law's neighborhood at the time. She remembers him riding his bike around the neighborhood and passing out Halloween candy to him.

    So? Does that mean since he went to John Carroll that he will become the next Don Shula? (If he comes here....hopefully so)

    He actually lived in a neighborhood that would have sent him to GlenOak schools....but because his Dad was the coach at Canton McKinley, apparently he was allowed to attend that HS.

    @the-gipper said:

    He has better roots than that: He and I were born in the same hospital. He lived in my sister in law's neighborhood at the time. She remembers him riding his bike around the neighborhood and passing out Halloween candy to him.

    So? Does that mean since he went to John Carroll that he will become the next Don Shula? (If he comes here....hopefully so)

    He actually lived in a neighborhood that would have sent him to GlenOak schools....but because his Dad was the coach at Canton McKinley, apparently he was allowed to attend that HS.

    I'm from Canton too and teach at McKinley now. Everyone in Stark County knows the McDaniels name.
    once a fan, always a fan. married to a steeler fan. aaaaaaaaah! --andy

  • Browns wanted McDaniels last year after the less realistic star fucking. Banner and Lombardi love him and he made a ton of sense. There are some nice stats on guys getting their second chance as a head coach with a little space in between. So much to learn and then some time to process it... and who better to process with than Belicheck, the prime example of a Second Chancer?

    Assuming it's McDaniels, expect the Browns to be forward thinking at the quarterback position. Nobody's run the spread more than McDaniels (in New England) and nobody's found a way to win with Tebow except McDaniels, an early adaptor to the RO.

    Man, if that doesn't scream Johnny Manziel, I don't know what does. Could be Mariota, who just might reverse field and come out. Or maybe Brett Hundley gets a year to watch because his ceiling is the highest in the draft. Point being, we won't mind all that much if Jacksonville takes Blake Bortles as many are now suggesting.

    But with the talent this team will have accumulated by July (6 Pro Bowlers, 40-some mill in cap, 10 draft picks), I think I could win 8 or 9 games next year.

    PS: I agree with Couch to an extent. One thing McDaniels has learned from his travels away from and back to Tom Brady is you ain't winning jack squat without the quarterback. He didn't think the Browns had one and didn't see one in the draft.

    Now he does.

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  • so McDaniels, manziel and Evans coming to cleveland?

  • S Shep

    Browns wanted McDaniels last year after the less realistic star fucking. Banner and Lombardi love him and he made a ton of sense. There are some nice stats on guys getting their second chance as a head coach with a little space in between. So much to learn and then some time to process it... and who better to process with than Belicheck, the prime example of a Second Chancer?

    Assuming it's McDaniels, expect the Browns to be forward thinking at the quarterback position. Nobody's run the spread more than McDaniels (in New England) and nobody's found a way to win with Tebow except McDaniels, an early adaptor to the RO.

    Man, if that doesn't scream Johnny Manziel, I don't know what does. Could be Mariota, who just might reverse field and come out. Or maybe Brett Hundley gets a year to watch because his ceiling is the highest in the draft. Point being, we won't mind all that much if Jacksonville takes Blake Bortles as many are now suggesting.

    But with the talent this team will have accumulated by July (6 Pro Bowlers, 40-some mill in cap, 10 draft picks), I think I could win 8 or 9 games next year.

    PS: I agree with Couch to an extent. One thing McDaniels has learned from his travels away from and back to Tom Brady is you ain't winning jack squat without the quarterback. He didn't think the Browns had one and didn't see one in the draft.

    Now he does.

    @shep said:

    Browns wanted McDaniels last year after the less realistic star fucking. Banner and Lombardi love him and he made a ton of sense. There are some nice stats on guys getting their second chance as a head coach with a little space in between. So much to learn and then some time to process it... and who better to process with than Belicheck, the prime example of a Second Chancer?

    Assuming it's McDaniels, expect the Browns to be forward thinking at the quarterback position. Nobody's run the spread more than McDaniels (in New England) and nobody's found a way to win with Tebow except McDaniels, an early adaptor to the RO.

    Man, if that doesn't scream Johnny Manziel, I don't know what does. Could be Mariota, who just might reverse field and come out. Or maybe Brett Hundley gets a year to watch because his ceiling is the highest in the draft. Point being, we won't mind all that much if Jacksonville takes Blake Bortles as many are now suggesting.

    But with the talent this team will have accumulated by July (6 Pro Bowlers, 40-some mill in cap, 10 draft picks), I think I could win 8 or 9 games next year.

    PS: I agree with Couch to an extent. One thing McDaniels has learned from his travels away from and back to Tom Brady is you ain't winning jack squat without the quarterback. He didn't think the Browns had one and didn't see one in the draft.

    Now he does.

    Now he'll have two. One being the guy Lombardi loves and the other being the guy that fits McDaniels spread system perfectly and is the unorthodox QB that he likes.

    And the third QB will be the one that erases the curse God put on Cleveland

    I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride

  • McDaniels reminded me a lot of Butch Davis when he was in Denver, he should've learned from Butch's mistakes. I don't foresee the FO allowing him to have a my way or the highway attitude here. This is Joe Banner's team without a shadow of doubt, and Let's just hope he can find good "value" in a QB this offseason.

    With our FO and we end up with MickeyDees and Johnny football the level of douche baggery on this team will be at an all time high . . . Probably a high enough level to convert some steeler fans.

    At this point they could put Chud's grandma on the sideline and put a trained monkey behind center and I would be happy as long as they were winners.

  • so putting a monkey behind center is different from last year how?

  • Monkeys are elusive = less sacks

    Monkeys are great problem solvers = defenses read, in turn less ints

    Monkeys are very tough and durable = less injury

    Monkeys are capable of learning and adapting = less seeing the same shit week in and week out

    Also, as far as I know there are no monkeys, named Brandon Weeden or Jason Campbell

  • As I just said in the Manziel thread, why not? We keep trying these first time coaches with clean pasts so let's bring in McDaniels. The hire looks stupid on paper with his history, but again this is something the Browns haven't tried yet. The guy obviously has knowledge of the offense in the NFL and would make a system to fit Manziel if we drafted him. This might be the shit to get the Browns going, at least it will be fresh and new.

  • His last year in Denver he drafted Demaryius Thomas, Zane Beadles and Eric Decker. Can't go wrong with that draft

    1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico

  • didn't Lombardi draft a couple of decent guys also? Mangini? Heckert? Al Davis? I think everyone gets lucky as some point.

  • This reminds me a bit of when the Browns had to 'settle' for taking Chris Palmer. They had wanted Billick perhaps, and were really sold on Butch Davis.....but Davis was tied up and couldn't get loose....but 2 years later when he was available Carmen Policy cut Palmer loose and went heavy after Davis.

    Perhaps the same thing here......LomBanner really really wanted McD....but he did not make himself available....but now that he apparently may be available, they are going to cream their jeans over him and unceremoniously dump the guy they didn't want in the first place.

  • creamy pants and dumps. Is it something they ate?

  • not everybody drafts 2 pro bowlers in one year, and Decker has the stats to make 3

    1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
  • C CLEVELandMILIDH

    not everybody drafts 2 pro bowlers in one year, and Decker has the stats to make 3

    @clevelandmilidh said:

    not everybody drafts 2 pro bowlers in one year, and Decker has the stats to make 3

    This year the Browns will draft 5.

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @clevelandmilidh said:

    not everybody drafts 2 pro bowlers in one year, and Decker has the stats to make 3

    This year the Browns will draft 5.

    @the-gipper said:

    This year the Browns will draft 5.

    and then trade them for Ray Ventrone and Jason Trusnik?

    1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico

  • Idk cant get excited at all with this guy. But maybe the third patriots patriots coach will work....

  • So the plan could be McDaniels comes here...grabs his guy Manziel, and has Hoyer who also knows the NE offense...

    Also, a few mentioned McDaniels should bring Mallett with him. Not likely but interesting to say the least. But it also doesn't make sense if Manziel is more what he'll be after in a QB.

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