2013 Do-Over: Knowing What You Know Now, Which 2013 NFL Rookie HC Would You Have Chosen to Lead the Browns?
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Gus Bradley has that basically talentless jacksonville team playing hard - imagine what he could do with a talented roster.
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I went with Trestman... just something about him that seems calming, steady, purposeful, resolute. Maybe it's the glasses...
Marc just edged out Kelly in my mind. Kelly was a big surprise to me, especially the degree to which he adapted his "system" to the players he had.
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I wanted Chip Kelly last year, and it's easy to say again that's the guy I wish we could have gotten... BUT, he didn't want to be in Cleveland. If I had to go with a 2nd guy it would have been Mike McCoy, but again a guy who ditched us. Third, would have been Bruce Arians, who was my #2 choice last year, did we even interview him? Pretty much anybody other than Chud, whose hire shocked me at the time but his firing doesn't shock me looking back...
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Mike McCoy. I think he's a great coach.
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Arians. Cardinals had the best defense in the league, and there offense was solid even with palmer throwing 2 picks a game. He led the cards to a 10-6 record in the best division infootball
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How do the browns pump out all these good coaches anyway but not have any.
Arians, bellichik, saban, trestman, Ryan, etc.
Kinda annoying.
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How do the browns pump out all these good coaches anyway but not have any.
Arians, bellichik, saban, trestman, Ryan, etc.
Kinda annoying.
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How do the browns pump out all these good coaches anyway but not have any.
Arians, bellichik, saban, trestman, Ryan, etc.
Kinda annoying.
How do the browns pump out all these good coaches anyway but not have any.
Arians, bellichik, saban, trestman, Ryan, etc.
Kinda annoying.
How? Simple. Poor ownership, poor management. Art Modell was originally OK....when the NFL was really a small time business. But starting in the 80s when it became really big business he became shit. And the last decent guy that the Browns have had control of the team was Ernie Accorsi.
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Zombo said:
And if you want go back further ... Chuck Knoll and Bill Cowher.
Real Annoying.
Zombo
To be fair to the Browns to a point, when Chuck Noll was hired to run the Steelers the Browns HC was Blanton Collier who had taken the Browns to 4 NFL Title games in 6 years. Collier was still HC of the Browns for at least 3-4 years after Noll had taken that job.
And as for Bill Cowher......who did the Browns select as their coach instead of him? Bill Belichick....and we know all about him. Cowher was hired by the Steelers while BB was HC here.
And further about Cowher....I don't know if he would have made any difference to the whole Art Modell mess if he had been here.
Would he have become persona non grata like BB is here.....or would he have been excused and understood. like Ozzie Newsome is for going with the Ravens.
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Zombo said:
And if you want go back further ... Chuck Knoll and Bill Cowher.
Real Annoying.
Zombo
To be fair to the Browns to a point, when Chuck Noll was hired to run the Steelers the Browns HC was Blanton Collier who had taken the Browns to 4 NFL Title games in 6 years. Collier was still HC of the Browns for at least 3-4 years after Noll had taken that job.
And as for Bill Cowher......who did the Browns select as their coach instead of him? Bill Belichick....and we know all about him. Cowher was hired by the Steelers while BB was HC here.
And further about Cowher....I don't know if he would have made any difference to the whole Art Modell mess if he had been here.
Would he have become persona non grata like BB is here.....or would he have been excused and understood. like Ozzie Newsome is for going with the Ravens.
To be fair to the Browns to a point, when Chuck Noll was hired to run the Steelers the Browns HC was Blanton Collier who had taken the Browns to 4 NFL Title games in 6 years. Collier was still HC of the Browns for at least 3-4 years after Noll had taken that job.
And as for Bill Cowher......who did the Browns select as their coach instead of him? Bill Belichick....and we know all about him. Cowher was hired by the Steelers while BB was HC here.
And further about Cowher....I don't know if he would have made any difference to the whole Art Modell mess if he had been here.
Would he have become persona non grata like BB is here.....or would he have been excused and understood. like Ozzie Newsome is for going with the Ravens.
I still hate Ozzie to this day for slapping real Browns fans in the face,taking our franchise and SB's elsewhere..I hope he rots in hell with Art and Al...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
trestman, as for the reasons you stated.
where have all the hard-nosed coaches gone? i mean knoll or cowher or even davis wouldn't have put up with shit that players are getting away with nowadays.
bunch of pussies.
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To be fair to the Browns to a point, when Chuck Noll was hired to run the Steelers the Browns HC was Blanton Collier who had taken the Browns to 4 NFL Title games in 6 years. Collier was still HC of the Browns for at least 3-4 years after Noll had taken that job.
And as for Bill Cowher......who did the Browns select as their coach instead of him? Bill Belichick....and we know all about him. Cowher was hired by the Steelers while BB was HC here.
And further about Cowher....I don't know if he would have made any difference to the whole Art Modell mess if he had been here.
Would he have become persona non grata like BB is here.....or would he have been excused and understood. like Ozzie Newsome is for going with the Ravens.
I still hate Ozzie to this day for slapping real Browns fans in the face,taking our franchise and SB's elsewhere..I hope he rots in hell with Art and Al...
I still hate Ozzie to this day for slapping real Browns fans in the face,taking our franchise and SB's elsewhere..I hope he rots in hell with Art and Al...
dude you should learn how to deal with all that hate. one bad road rage from high blood pressure stroke and it's no joke. it'll kill ya.
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I still hate Ozzie to this day for slapping real Browns fans in the face,taking our franchise and SB's elsewhere..I hope he rots in hell with Art and Al...
dude you should learn how to deal with all that hate. one bad road rage from high blood pressure stroke and it's no joke. it'll kill ya.
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trestman, as for the reasons you stated.
where have all the hard-nosed coaches gone? i mean knoll or cowher or even davis wouldn't have put up with shit that players are getting away with nowadays.
bunch of pussies.
trestman, as for the reasons you stated.
where have all the hard-nosed coaches gone? i mean knoll or cowher or even davis wouldn't have put up with shit that players are getting away with nowadays.
bunch of pussies.
Well lets see...say your making 8.2 Mil a season per se..and your head coach makes 3.5 annually...do you really give a shit what he says to you?...thats what I thought...
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Bellichik is the only one that really seems to get away with it ^^.
But after 3 SB wins, the players must respect the hell out of him.
Harder for a young unproven guy to get away with stuff like that. Although mangina was potentially progressing with the browns. But we'll never know because he got fired 5 minutes after holmgren walked into the interview.
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I was impressed with how Trestman came in and got the team playing very well after the 2012 second half collapse with Lovie at the helm. He won two consecutive Gray Cups as head coach which pretty much stamps him as a "proven winner". He has a reputation as a qB guru and has plenty of NFL coaching experience. Hindsight being what it is, he outperformed the rookie coach Chud hands down. I may be wrong, but the Browns didn't even pursue him. More questionable FO scouting efforts leave many wondering if they have the ability to identify talent.
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Bellichik is the only one that really seems to get away with it ^^.
But after 3 SB wins, the players must respect the hell out of him.
Harder for a young unproven guy to get away with stuff like that. Although mangina was potentially progressing with the browns. But we'll never know because he got fired 5 minutes after holmgren walked into the interview.
Bellichik is the only one that really seems to get away with it ^^.
But after 3 SB wins, the players must respect the hell out of him.
Harder for a young unproven guy to get away with stuff like that. Although mangina was potentially progressing with the browns. But we'll never know because he got fired 5 minutes after holmgren walked into the interview.
Speaking of Mangini, why haven't the Browns interviewed him to come back? Oh, that's right- the Stooges want a puppet.
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Mangini won't see another NFL coaching job. He is a frustrated NFL player who proved the rumors from his stint with the Jets to be true. He is 100% control freak who will never have the ability to motivate his players because they just won't play for him. Personality goes a long way.
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