Why the Cardinals will win the Super Bowl
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Yeah you Clowns fans keep dreaming.....It would be pretty sad though to have the Cardinals win a Super Bowl while you guys only dream of making one....haHaaa.
I can see though you pulling for the Cards....If I was you I would become Card fans as well that way you can finally have a winning team to support...because you'll never have one in Clevland that's for sure.
It's going to be awesome come next Sunday Night watching our team win it's 6th Super Bowl title.
LEt's see 7 Super Bowl apperiances.
Six Super Bowl wins.
The only team in NFL HISTORY to play in the Super Bowl 4-straight Decades.
Sleep on that one folks.
Yeah you Clowns fans keep dreaming.....It would be pretty sad though to have the Cardinals win a Super Bowl while you guys only dream of making one....haHaaa.
I can see though you pulling for the Cards....If I was you I would become Card fans as well that way you can finally have a winning team to support...because you'll never have one in Clevland that's for sure.
It's going to be awesome come next Sunday Night watching our team win it's 6th Super Bowl title.
LEt's see 7 Super Bowl apperiances.
Six Super Bowl wins.
The only team in NFL HISTORY to play in the Super Bowl 4-straight Decades.
Sleep on that one folks.
If you're going to try to piss people off. The least you could do is learn grammar and spelling first.
None of you pussies are even going to the superbowl because you are all bandwagon, front running, bitches. My own Aunt LIVES IN FRICKIN FLORIDA, and is not going. I told her you can bet your ass I'll be at the SB when Cleveland makes it in 2042.
How the hell can you twits claim to be true fans when you won't even go to the most important game in your teams history.
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If nothing else, the Cards will win because Kurt Warner lives in fear that if he loses a game, he will be devoured by a terrifying monster...
Okay, a bit of a cheap shot, but still...for God's sake, she looks like the love child of Christopher Walken and Johnny Unitas.
Dennis
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Yeah you Clowns fans keep dreaming.....It would be pretty sad though to have the Cardinals win a Super Bowl while you guys only dream of making one....haHaaa.
I can see though you pulling for the Cards....If I was you I would become Card fans as well that way you can finally have a winning team to support...because you'll never have one in Clevland that's for sure.
It's going to be awesome come next Sunday Night watching our team win it's 6th Super Bowl title.
LEt's see 7 Super Bowl apperiances.
Six Super Bowl wins.
The only team in NFL HISTORY to play in the Super Bowl 4-straight Decades.
Sleep on that one folks.
If you're going to try to piss people off. The least you could do is learn grammar and spelling first.
None of you pussies are even going to the superbowl because you are all bandwagon, front running, bitches. My own Aunt LIVES IN FRICKIN FLORIDA, and is not going. I told her you can bet your ass I'll be at the SB when Cleveland makes it in 2042.
How the hell can you twits claim to be true fans when you won't even go to the most important game in your teams history.
AdaM said:
If you're going to try to piss people off. The least you could do is learn grammar and spelling first.None of you pussies are even going to the superbowl because you are all bandwagon, front running, bitches. My own Aunt LIVES IN FRICKIN FLORIDA, and is not going. I told her you can bet your ass I'll be at the SB when Cleveland makes it in 2042.
How the hell can you twits claim to be true fans when you won't even go to the most important game in your teams history.
Fully understand you first statement. As far as the rest ...Come one dude there are MILLIONS of Steeler Fans ( Browns Fans as well ) And I am thinking that The Stadium in Tampa has about 65,857
seats that last time I looked.... This think called MATHAMATICS , makes your statement ASININE !!! Add to that this other thing Call Economics, and supply and demand also Play a part in the fact that the VAST Majority of ANY Teams fans CAN NOT Go ...to the Super Bowl if their team happens to get there. So stop this Stupid rant about "What kind of fan are You " ...it makes NO Sense !!
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The Cardinals lost a lot of east coast games because they were all played at 1:00 EST.
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The Cardinals lost a lot of east coast games because they were all played at 1:00 EST.
The Cardinals lost a lot of east coast games because they were all played at 1:00 EST.
They also traveled to that city 24-48 hours before the game. They arrived in TB today. Big difference.
All west coast teams struggle when going east, mainly because of time change/jet lag.
And after all, ARZ traveled to the east coast to thump CAR.
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I hate whining and the Browns fans have turned into a bunch of whiners and gutless whiners at that.
That said I am a Browns fans............and a Steelers fan
this crap on this thread about Steelers getting favoritism is pathetic, in fact the ref's blew every call against the Ravens to help them to win..........and ignored Harrison being held a bunch of times
That all said.........
Super Steelers
Win the Super Bowl
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and us Browns fans instead of hating em and wishing bad should just be simple and emulate.......we took the slug slow crybaby Winslow and they took future hall of famer Ben when he was there for the picking by us
Being a dumb team..............yep we are dumb team
leads to losing
Time to get heads outta asses and start doing what is to be winning..........copying the Steelers would not be all bad
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I hate whining and the Browns fans have turned into a bunch of whiners and gutless whiners at that.
That said I am a Browns fans............and a Steelers fan
this crap on this thread about Steelers getting favoritism is pathetic, in fact the ref's blew every call against the Ravens to help them to win..........and ignored Harrison being held a bunch of times
That all said.........
Super Steelers
Win the Super Bowl
34-17
and us Browns fans instead of hating em and wishing bad should just be simple and emulate.......we took the slug slow crybaby Winslow and they took future hall of famer Ben when he was there for the picking by us
Being a dumb team..............yep we are dumb team
leads to losing
Time to get heads outta asses and start doing what is to be winning..........copying the Steelers would not be all bad
I hate whining and the Browns fans have turned into a bunch of whiners and gutless whiners at that.
Funny you should say that because you seem to be one of the biggest whiners/complainers I've seen on this site.
That said I am a Browns fans............and a Steelers fan
Are you an Ohio State and Michigan fan also?
this crap on this thread about Steelers getting favoritism is pathetic, in fact the ref's blew every call against the Ravens to help them to win..........and ignored Harrison being held a bunch of times
That all said.........
Super Steelers
Win the Super Bowl
34-17
and us Browns fans instead of hating em and wishing bad should just be simple and emulate.......
Do you actually understand what the word rivalry means?
we took the slug slow crybaby Winslow and they took future hall of famer Ben when he was there for the picking by us
The Steelers win because of their defense - not because of Ben - and sometimes in spite of him (like SB40 for example). I don't think anybody (except the Steelers fans) are ready to put him in the H.O.F. yet.
Being a dumb team..............yep we are dumb team
leads to losing
Time to get heads outta asses and start doing what is to be winning..........copying the Steelers would not be all bad
We seem to be trying to copy a winning team and it isn't the Steelers. It's the Patriots, which have been the far more successful team this past decade, so we'll see how that turns out.
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Do you actually understand what the word rivalry means?
It hasn't been a heated rivalry the past decade. Some of you guys are taking this rivalry to the borderline of stupidity.
The Steelers win because of their defense - not because of Ben - and sometimes in spite of him (like SB40 for example). I don't think anybody (except the Steelers fans) are ready to put him in the H.O.F. yet.
No, we don't ask Ben to throw 30+ passes and 3+ touchdowns a game, but that doesn't mean he isn't good. We just ask him to win games. Do you remember the game this year when Steelers played Cowboys and Ravens(The 2nd meeting? Ben won both those games with amazing fourth quarter comebacks. You point out Ben's poor stats in SB XL, (although he did do enough to win) but you don't point out his stats in the three away playoff games leading up to the SB in which Ben throw 2+ against the three best teams in the AFC. Ben is on pass to break every Steeler passing record and have most 4th quarter/OT comeback wins in NFL history. (Surpassing Elway, who currently is #1) Steelers have one of if not the best strategy for running an NFL team. (We are expected to have more SB win then anyother team in less then one week. I'll take SB wins over 4,000 passing yards ine 5 consecutive seaons. Not many Steeler fans thinks he is HOF material yet, but winning his second SB this week and playing like he has his first five years will get him in for sure.
We seem to be trying to copy a winning team and it isn't the Steelers. It's the Patriots, which have been the far more successful team this past decade, so we'll see how that turns out.
Patriots= Won three SBs while cheating
Steelers= Won five SBS (expected to have six) without cheating.
Belichick is a good coach to copy off of (minus the cheating and lack of class) to build a winning dynasty. Steelers are a good team to copy for long term success. If you can successfully copy either, you will have a good team. But how can you say the Patriots have a much better plan for success then the Steelers?
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Brownsfan17 was rattling in his father's bawls when I was rooting for both the Steelers and Browns and remain to this day a fan of both.
Now, as far as Steelers winning in spite of Ben. That is hilarious. The guy is a winner a big time winner. Barring an injury he will be HOFER. He wins games period!
Otto Graham did not have much in terms of stats.............all he did was win championships
In the end for a QB it all boils down to W's and L's
Offense Wins.......Franchise QB's are the key.............Defense keeps you in the game.........Go Buckeyes -
Brownsfan17 was rattling in his father's bawls when I was rooting for both the Steelers and Browns and remain to this day a fan of both.
Now, as far as Steelers winning in spite of Ben. That is hilarious. The guy is a winner a big time winner. Barring an injury he will be HOFER. He wins games period!
Otto Graham did not have much in terms of stats.............all he did was win championships
In the end for a QB it all boils down to W's and L's
Brownsfan17 was rattling in his father's bawls when I was rooting for both the Steelers and Browns and remain to this day a fan of both.
You must be older than dirt. BTW, I noticed that you didn't answer my question about being a Michigan fan.
Now, as far as Steelers winning in spite of Ben. That is hilarious. The guy is a winner a big time winner. Barring an injury he will be HOFER. He wins games period!
Did you watch SB40? They did win in spite of him. The best QB's play at the top of their game under the big lights so we'll see how he does on Sunday.
Otto Graham did not have much in terms of stats.............all he did was win championships
He did play his best under the big lights. That's the difference.
In the end for a QB it all boils down to W's and L's
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Do you actually understand what the word rivalry means?
It hasn't been a heated rivalry the past decade. Some of you guys are taking this rivalry to the borderline of stupidity.
The Steelers win because of their defense - not because of Ben - and sometimes in spite of him (like SB40 for example). I don't think anybody (except the Steelers fans) are ready to put him in the H.O.F. yet.
No, we don't ask Ben to throw 30+ passes and 3+ touchdowns a game, but that doesn't mean he isn't good. We just ask him to win games. Do you remember the game this year when Steelers played Cowboys and Ravens(The 2nd meeting? Ben won both those games with amazing fourth quarter comebacks. You point out Ben's poor stats in SB XL, (although he did do enough to win) but you don't point out his stats in the three away playoff games leading up to the SB in which Ben throw 2+ against the three best teams in the AFC. Ben is on pass to break every Steeler passing record and have most 4th quarter/OT comeback wins in NFL history. (Surpassing Elway, who currently is #1) Steelers have one of if not the best strategy for running an NFL team. (We are expected to have more SB win then anyother team in less then one week. I'll take SB wins over 4,000 passing yards ine 5 consecutive seaons. Not many Steeler fans thinks he is HOF material yet, but winning his second SB this week and playing like he has his first five years will get him in for sure.
We seem to be trying to copy a winning team and it isn't the Steelers. It's the Patriots, which have been the far more successful team this past decade, so we'll see how that turns out.
Patriots= Won three SBs while cheating
Steelers= Won five SBS (expected to have six) without cheating.
Belichick is a good coach to copy off of (minus the cheating and lack of class) to build a winning dynasty. Steelers are a good team to copy for long term success. If you can successfully copy either, you will have a good team. But how can you say the Patriots have a much better plan for success then the Steelers?
@yeahdaisafuturehofer... said:
Do you actually understand what the word rivalry means?It hasn't been a heated rivalry the past decade. Some of you guys are taking this rivalry to the borderline of stupidity.
Obviously, if you don't understand it then you are either really young or a bandwagon fan. Which is it?
The Steelers win because of their defense - not because of Ben - and sometimes in spite of him (like SB40 for example). I don't think anybody (except the Steelers fans) are ready to put him in the H.O.F. yet.
No, we don't ask Ben to throw 30+ passes and 3+ touchdowns a game, but that doesn't mean he isn't good.
You don't ask him to because he isn't good at it. He is a game manager. My point is that he will never be a Peyton Manning or Tom Brady (shoe-ins for the H.O.F.)
We just ask him to win games. Do you remember the game this year when Steelers played Cowboys and Ravens(The 2nd meeting? Ben won both those games with amazing fourth quarter comebacks. You point out Ben's poor stats in SB XL, (although he did do enough to win) but you don't point out his stats in the three away playoff games leading up to the SB in which Ben throw 2+ against the three best teams in the AFC. Ben is on pass to break every Steeler passing record and have most 4th quarter/OT comeback wins in NFL history.
Could having the stingiest D have helped with that? It's a hell of alot easier to come back when the other team isn't scoring.
(Surpassing Elway, who currently is #1) Steelers have one of if not the best strategy for running an NFL team. (We are expected to have more SB win then anyother team in less then one week. I'll take SB wins over 4,000 passing yards ine 5 consecutive seaons. Not many Steeler fans thinks he is HOF material yet, but winning his second SB this week and playing like he has his first five years will get him in for sure.
We seem to be trying to copy a winning team and it isn't the Steelers. It's the Patriots, which have been the far more successful team this past decade, so we'll see how that turns out.
Patriots= Won three SBs while cheating
Steelers= Won five SBS (expected to have six) without cheating.
Cheating? Don't be a hypocrite. Many have said the same about the Steelers.
Belichick is a good coach to copy off of (minus the cheating and lack of class) to build a winning dynasty. Steelers are a good team to copy for long term success. If you can successfully copy either, you will have a good team. But how can you say the Patriots have a much better plan for success then the Steelers?
In the past 15 years:
Patriots - 5 trips to the SB. Won 3 times. Went 16-0.
Steelers - 3 trips to SB. Won 1 (maybe 2 - we'll see).
Both impressive but the Pats are obviously superior.
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Dude, there is holding on every play in the NFL. I could sit here and say how many times PIT held one of BALTs players.
At the end of the day, PIT doesn't get any more or less calls from refs than any other team.
Masters said:
Dude, there is holding on every play in the NFL. I could sit here and say how many times PIT held one of BALTs players.At the end of the day, PIT doesn't get any more or less calls from refs than any other team.
Exactly Masters excellent points so tell your fellow Browns fans on here to quit whining and bitching constantly about the refs always giving the Steelers calls and saying it's the only reason the Steelers win games.
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Do you actually understand what the word rivalry means?
It hasn't been a heated rivalry the past decade. Some of you guys are taking this rivalry to the borderline of stupidity.
Obviously, if you don't understand it then you are either really young or a bandwagon fan. Which is it?
Okay, when exactly did I say I didn't understand what a rivalry is? Steelers have had a heated rivalry with the Ravens the past decade. When the Steelers and Browns play, its less of a rivalry and more of an abusive relationship.
The Steelers win because of their defense - not because of Ben - and sometimes in spite of him (like SB40 for example). I don't think anybody (except the Steelers fans) are ready to put him in the H.O.F. yet.
No, we don't ask Ben to throw 30+ passes and 3+ touchdowns a game, but that doesn't mean he isn't good.
You don't ask him to because he isn't good at it. He is a game manager. My point is that he will never be a Peyton Manning or Tom Brady (shoe-ins for the H.O.F.)
The Steelers have NEVER asked our qbs to be a Manning or Brady becuase thats not the kind of system we run. Ben not putting up big numbers just means he is a perfect fit with the system. You not understanding thats seems to point you aren't fully aware of how the Steelers are run. You would know this though if you followed the rivavlry as long as you claimed. Bens ask to win games and thats exactly what he does!
We just ask him to win games. Do you remember the game this year when Steelers played Cowboys and Ravens(The 2nd meeting? Ben won both those games with amazing fourth quarter comebacks. You point out Ben's poor stats in SB XL, (although he did do enough to win) but you don't point out his stats in the three away playoff games leading up to the SB in which Ben throw 2+ against the three best teams in the AFC. Ben is on pass to break every Steeler passing record and have most 4th quarter/OT comeback wins in NFL history.
Could having the stingiest D have helped with that? It's a hell of alot easier to come back when the other team isn't scoring.
Obviously, if you want to win the Super Bowl you have to have a good defense. In the 4th quarter he just goes to the next level and gets it done in the clutch. Thats all on him. Not the D, not the coach, and not the running back.
(Surpassing Elway, who currently is #1) Steelers have one of if not the best strategy for running an NFL team. (We are expected to have more SB win then anyother team in less then one week. I'll take SB wins over 4,000 passing yards ine 5 consecutive seaons. Not many Steeler fans thinks he is HOF material yet, but winning his second SB this week and playing like he has his first five years will get him in for sure.
We seem to be trying to copy a winning team and it isn't the Steelers. It's the Patriots, which have been the far more successful team this past decade, so we'll see how that turns out.
Patriots= Won three SBs while cheating
Steelers= Won five SBS (expected to have six) without cheating.
Cheating? Don't be a hypocrite. Many have said the same about the Steelers.
Many have accused the Steelers have cheated but they are the same people who don't back up their claim with facts. They say in with emotion and not intellect.
Belichick is a good coach to copy off of (minus the cheating and lack of class) to build a winning dynasty. Steelers are a good team to copy for long term success. If you can successfully copy either, you will have a good team. But how can you say the Patriots have a much better plan for success then the Steelers?
In the past 15 years:
Patriots - 5 trips to the SB. Won 3 times. Went 16-0.
Steelers - 3 trips to SB. Won 1 (maybe 2 - we'll see).
Both impressive but the Pats are obviously superior.
They cheated in their three Super Bowl wins... Steelers are consistantly good. Take away a capable QB from the Pats and you take away any chance at the playoffs. Steelers don't put that kind of responsibility on a single player becuase its too risky. Steelers win so often becuase one player having a bad game doesn't destroy the entire game plan. Why are you chosing to just look at recent history and not all of it>
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Masters said:
Dude, there is holding on every play in the NFL. I could sit here and say how many times PIT held one of BALTs players.At the end of the day, PIT doesn't get any more or less calls from refs than any other team.
Exactly Masters excellent points so tell your fellow Browns fans on here to quit whining and bitching constantly about the refs always giving the Steelers calls and saying it's the only reason the Steelers win games.
Exactly Masters excellent points so tell your fellow Browns fans on here to quit whining and bitching constantly about the refs always giving the Steelers calls and saying it's the only reason the Steelers win games.
Everyone has an opinion, or a complaint I guess. But let's be honest, if a Steelers fan didn't come on to the board and instantly reply to one of those comments from a Browns fans, those lines about steroids and refs calls would be far smaller. Just like there would be less Steelers fan comments if people didn't have to instantly respond to a thread making fun of CLE or the Browns.
To me, all the trash talk belongs only in the two weeks leading up to the Browns vs. Steelers games.
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Do you actually understand what the word rivalry means?
It hasn't been a heated rivalry the past decade. Some of you guys are taking this rivalry to the borderline of stupidity.
Obviously, if you don't understand it then you are either really young or a bandwagon fan. Which is it?
Okay, when exactly did I say I didn't understand what a rivalry is? Steelers have had a heated rivalry with the Ravens the past decade. When the Steelers and Browns play, its less of a rivalry and more of an abusive relationship.
The Steelers win because of their defense - not because of Ben - and sometimes in spite of him (like SB40 for example). I don't think anybody (except the Steelers fans) are ready to put him in the H.O.F. yet.
No, we don't ask Ben to throw 30+ passes and 3+ touchdowns a game, but that doesn't mean he isn't good.
You don't ask him to because he isn't good at it. He is a game manager. My point is that he will never be a Peyton Manning or Tom Brady (shoe-ins for the H.O.F.)
The Steelers have NEVER asked our qbs to be a Manning or Brady becuase thats not the kind of system we run. Ben not putting up big numbers just means he is a perfect fit with the system. You not understanding thats seems to point you aren't fully aware of how the Steelers are run. You would know this though if you followed the rivavlry as long as you claimed. Bens ask to win games and thats exactly what he does!
We just ask him to win games. Do you remember the game this year when Steelers played Cowboys and Ravens(The 2nd meeting? Ben won both those games with amazing fourth quarter comebacks. You point out Ben's poor stats in SB XL, (although he did do enough to win) but you don't point out his stats in the three away playoff games leading up to the SB in which Ben throw 2+ against the three best teams in the AFC. Ben is on pass to break every Steeler passing record and have most 4th quarter/OT comeback wins in NFL history.
Could having the stingiest D have helped with that? It's a hell of alot easier to come back when the other team isn't scoring.
Obviously, if you want to win the Super Bowl you have to have a good defense. In the 4th quarter he just goes to the next level and gets it done in the clutch. Thats all on him. Not the D, not the coach, and not the running back.
(Surpassing Elway, who currently is #1) Steelers have one of if not the best strategy for running an NFL team. (We are expected to have more SB win then anyother team in less then one week. I'll take SB wins over 4,000 passing yards ine 5 consecutive seaons. Not many Steeler fans thinks he is HOF material yet, but winning his second SB this week and playing like he has his first five years will get him in for sure.
We seem to be trying to copy a winning team and it isn't the Steelers. It's the Patriots, which have been the far more successful team this past decade, so we'll see how that turns out.
Patriots= Won three SBs while cheating
Steelers= Won five SBS (expected to have six) without cheating.
Cheating? Don't be a hypocrite. Many have said the same about the Steelers.
Many have accused the Steelers have cheated but they are the same people who don't back up their claim with facts. They say in with emotion and not intellect.
Belichick is a good coach to copy off of (minus the cheating and lack of class) to build a winning dynasty. Steelers are a good team to copy for long term success. If you can successfully copy either, you will have a good team. But how can you say the Patriots have a much better plan for success then the Steelers?
In the past 15 years:
Patriots - 5 trips to the SB. Won 3 times. Went 16-0.
Steelers - 3 trips to SB. Won 1 (maybe 2 - we'll see).
Both impressive but the Pats are obviously superior.
They cheated in their three Super Bowl wins... Steelers are consistantly good. Take away a capable QB from the Pats and you take away any chance at the playoffs. Steelers don't put that kind of responsibility on a single player becuase its too risky. Steelers win so often becuase one player having a bad game doesn't destroy the entire game plan. Why are you chosing to just look at recent history and not all of it>
Do you actually understand what the word rivalry means?
By your logic it wasn't a rivalry when CLE was beating PIT for decades either. After all, PIT needed 10 years against an expansion team to tie up the all time record. It is and always will be a rivalry because it is one of the oldest in the NFL. It's been passed down for generations on both sides.
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