Could Kirk Cousins Follow Kyle Shanahan to the Browns?
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We should take one look at RG3 busted leg and leave this Shanahan/Manziel idea well alone
We should take one look at RG3 busted leg and leave this Shanahan/Manziel idea well alone
Einstein's definition of 'insanity'.
"Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
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Cousins was a 4th round pick, and this drexel guy thinks we should
trade a first round pick to get him?
Really.
Maybe a 4th rounder.... Maybe even a third, depending.
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I'm not sure why we would go that route. We are looking for a franchise QB and we have enough draft picks to take a stab at one. There is nothing I have seen from Cousins that tells me he's going to be any better than Hoyer will be. Hoyer plus a pick seems to be the ticket to me.
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Zombo said:
I'm not sure why we would go that route. We are looking for a franchise QB and we have enough draft picks to take a stab at one. There is nothing I have seen from Cousins that tells me he's going to be any better than Hoyer will be. Hoyer plus a pick seems to be the ticket to me.
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He sure did torch us when RG3 was out. That's the only time I've seen him play though
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Cousins has a career passer rating of 69. Weeden's is 72.
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I think cousins could be a starter, but at this point he hasn't showed he's anything more than a backup. I'd rather keep hoyer and get a late or undrafted third string (Maybe Guiton?)
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If you look at QB stats from 2013 both Jason Campbell and Brandon Weeden were superior to Kirk Cousins. He started 5 games and the results were extremely sub par. TD 4 / INT 7 , QB rating 58.4, completion % 52.4
With stats like that he is a number 2 or 3 QB. That being said I would rather draft 2 QBs one high and one low as opposed to take this guy on.
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Interesting, in college, Cousins was Hoyer's backup.
Several young qb's have had career days vs the Browns secondary.
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I think cousins could be a starter, but at this point he hasn't showed he's anything more than a backup. I'd rather keep hoyer and get a late or undrafted third string (Maybe Guiton?)
I think cousins could be a starter, but at this point he hasn't showed he's anything more than a backup. I'd rather keep hoyer and get a late or undrafted third string (Maybe Guiton?)
Bingo!! I would be ok with taking Guiton later in the draft. Maybe he doesn't get drafted at all, and you sign him to a camp invite FA. The kid has skills.
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Yeah, I'm not in love with this whole Cousins idea. It's going to cost something, and I feel like that something is probably going to be too much. If it's a pick, I think I'd rather have the chance at another BPA rookie.
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Cousins was a 4th round pick, and this drexel guy thinks we should
trade a first round pick to get him?
Really.
Maybe a 4th rounder.... Maybe even a third, depending.
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I'm not sure why we would go that route. We are looking for a franchise QB and we have enough draft picks to take a stab at one. There is nothing I have seen from Cousins that tells me he's going to be any better than Hoyer will be. Hoyer plus a pick seems to be the ticket to me.
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Zombo said:
I'm not sure why we would go that route. We are looking for a franchise QB and we have enough draft picks to take a stab at one. There is nothing I have seen from Cousins that tells me he's going to be any better than Hoyer will be. Hoyer plus a pick seems to be the ticket to me.
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The only thing that recommends Cousins here over Hoyer would be that, if Shanahan comes here, he "knows" Cousins.
The other thing is that this writer...who seems to be pro Redskins, seems to be advocating that the Redskins "Rip Off" the Browns....because the Browns have picks. The implication is that the Browns are stupid. Well Lombardi may be stupid indeed....but I would hope he is not so stupid as to trade a very high pick for Cousins.
To me, at most, he MAY be worth a 3rd round pick.
If the Browns wanted to show some interest I would offer a 6th rounder....and tell him he still has to compete with Hoyer and our first round QB.
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We should take one look at RG3 busted leg and leave this Shanahan/Manziel idea well alone
Einstein's definition of 'insanity'.
"Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
Einstein's definition of 'insanity'.
"Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
Just curious, how do you see matchup up Shanahan and Manziel as "doing the same thing over and over again"? Just curious (If indeed that is what you meant).
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Interesting, in college, Cousins was Hoyer's backup.
Several young qb's have had career days vs the Browns secondary.
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We should take one look at RG3 busted leg and leave this Shanahan/Manziel idea well alone
Einstein's definition of 'insanity'.
"Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
Einstein's definition of 'insanity'.
"Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
Einstein wasn't a psychologist.
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I think we pretty much have Kirk Cousins already on our team ( a young smart QB we don't know much about) in Brian Hoyer...Keep Hoyer, draft a QB at #4
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We should take one look at RG3 busted leg and leave this Shanahan/Manziel idea well alone
We should take one look at RG3 busted leg and leave this Shanahan/Manziel idea well alone
You mean like Hoyer? RG3 busted leg is a function of him not sliding. Manziel isnt a running QB, I am not advocating for Manziel its just a bogus comparison in my opinion. And remember RG3 was playing when he shouldnt have been, thats on the HC.
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We should take one look at RG3 busted leg and leave this Shanahan/Manziel idea well alone
You mean like Hoyer? RG3 busted leg is a function of him not sliding. Manziel isnt a running QB, I am not advocating for Manziel its just a bogus comparison in my opinion. And remember RG3 was playing when he shouldnt have been, thats on the HC.
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Cousins was a 4th round pick, and this drexel guy thinks we should
trade a first round pick to get him?
Really.
Maybe a 4th rounder.... Maybe even a third, depending.
Cousins was a 4th round pick, and this drexel guy thinks we should
trade a first round pick to get him?
Really.
Maybe a 4th rounder.... Maybe even a third, depending.
Maybe a sixth or seventh- same as we got for McCoy
The only thing that recommends Cousins here over Hoyer would be that, if Shanahan comes here, he "knows" Cousins.
The other thing is that this writer...who seems to be pro Redskins, seems to be advocating that the Redskins "Rip Off" the Browns....because the Browns have picks. The implication is that the Browns are stupid. Well Lombardi may be stupid indeed....but I would hope he is not so stupid as to trade a very high pick for Cousins.
To me, at most, he MAY be worth a 3rd round pick.
If the Browns wanted to show some interest I would offer a 6th rounder....and tell him he still has to compete with Hoyer and our first round QB.
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You mean like Hoyer? RG3 busted leg is a function of him not sliding. Manziel isnt a running QB, I am not advocating for Manziel its just a bogus comparison in my opinion. And remember RG3 was playing when he shouldn't have been, that's on the HC.
Manziel isn't a running quarterback? Have you ever even bothered to watch him play? He cut down on his running to a mere 750 yards last year, but he still had 2,100+ for his career- he had more yards rushing in 2012 than Carlos Hyde.
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Cousins was a 4th round pick, and this drexel guy thinks we should
trade a first round pick to get him?
Really.
Maybe a 4th rounder.... Maybe even a third, depending.
Maybe a sixth or seventh- same as we got for McCoy
The only thing that recommends Cousins here over Hoyer would be that, if Shanahan comes here, he "knows" Cousins.
The other thing is that this writer...who seems to be pro Redskins, seems to be advocating that the Redskins "Rip Off" the Browns....because the Browns have picks. The implication is that the Browns are stupid. Well Lombardi may be stupid indeed....but I would hope he is not so stupid as to trade a very high pick for Cousins.
To me, at most, he MAY be worth a 3rd round pick.
If the Browns wanted to show some interest I would offer a 6th rounder....and tell him he still has to compete with Hoyer and our first round QB.
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You mean like Hoyer? RG3 busted leg is a function of him not sliding. Manziel isnt a running QB, I am not advocating for Manziel its just a bogus comparison in my opinion. And remember RG3 was playing when he shouldn't have been, that's on the HC.
Manziel isn't a running quarterback? Have you ever even bothered to watch him play? He cut down on his running to a mere 750 yards last year, but he still had 2,100+ for his career- he had more yards rushing in 2012 than Carlos Hyde.
Manziel isn't a running quarterback? Have you ever even bothered to watch him play? He cut down on his running to a mere 750 yards last year, but he still had 2,100+ for his career- he had more yards rushing in 2012 than Carlos Hyde.
Yep, and he'll be running for his life in the NFL........... Literally, not figuratively.
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