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Could Kirk Cousins Follow Kyle Shanahan to the Browns?

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  • Cousins has a career passer rating of 69. Weeden's is 72.

    @vaportrail said:

    Cousins has a career passer rating of 69. Weeden's is 72.

    yet cousins is 1-0 against weeden. What's ur fucking point?? Because cousins struggled when the Redskins had already phoned it in. If that's ur sample size then fuck Hoyer!!
  • @vaportrail said:

    Cousins has a career passer rating of 69. Weeden's is 72.

    yet cousins is 1-0 against weeden. What's ur fucking point?? Because cousins struggled when the Redskins had already phoned it in. If that's ur sample size then fuck Hoyer!!

    @cdl15 said:

    yet cousins is 1-0 against weeden. What's ur fucking point?? Because cousins struggled when the Redskins had already phoned it in. If that's ur sample size then fuck Hoyer!!

    im against it because I just dont think Cousins is that good.
  • I'm going to say I doubt he follows Shanahan here because it looks like Shanahan's interview went very poorly.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000320589/article/kyle-shanahans-interview-with-browns-didnt-go-as-planned

  • @vaportrail said:

    Cousins has a career passer rating of 69. Weeden's is 72.

    yet cousins is 1-0 against weeden. What's ur fucking point?? Because cousins struggled when the Redskins had already phoned it in. If that's ur sample size then fuck Hoyer!!

    @cdl15 said:

    yet cousins is 1-0 against weeden. What's ur fucking point?? Because cousins struggled when the Redskins had already phoned it in. If that's ur sample size then fuck Hoyer!!

    better question is what is YOUR fucking point. You think that one game actually is indicative of how Cousins can play as opposed to the larger data set of 5 games in 2013?? I think not. That game was in 2012 as well where our defense stunk even worse.

  • one of my best friends son's best friend was in the same dorm as grossman was and the kid says he toked up more than gordon, little and bess combined.

    yeah, let's bring him in.

    talk about the cardiac kids...how about the cardiac arrest kids?

  • @cdl15 said:

    yet cousins is 1-0 against weeden. What's ur fucking point?? Because cousins struggled when the Redskins had already phoned it in. If that's ur sample size then fuck Hoyer!!

    better question is what is YOUR fucking point. You think that one game actually is indicative of how Cousins can play as opposed to the larger data set of 5 games in 2013?? I think not. That game was in 2012 as well where our defense stunk even worse.

    @jcam222 said:

    better question is what is YOUR fucking point. You think that one game actually is indicative of how Cousins can play as opposed to the larger data set of 5 games in 2013?? I think not. That game was in 2012 as well where our defense stunk even worse.

    so a Redskins team that was way worse offensively in 2013 than in2012 is proof. By those standards Washington Should be looking for new qb this year
  • @jcam222 said:

    better question is what is YOUR fucking point. You think that one game actually is indicative of how Cousins can play as opposed to the larger data set of 5 games in 2013?? I think not. That game was in 2012 as well where our defense stunk even worse.

    so a Redskins team that was way worse offensively in 2013 than in2012 is proof. By those standards Washington Should be looking for new qb this year

    @cdl15 said:

    so a Redskins team that was way worse offensively in 2013 than in2012 is proof. By those standards Washington Should be looking for new qb this year

    fair point, overall however I just don't see Cousins being worth anything more than a 4th round pick.

  • I understand that I don't see a franchise qb in this draft tho. And gettin kirk would end all 1st round qb talk.....I hope

  • I understand that I don't see a franchise qb in this draft tho. And gettin kirk would end all 1st round qb talk.....I hope

    @cdl15 said:

    I understand that I don't see a franchise qb in this draft tho. And gettin kirk would end all 1st round qb talk.....I hope

    You need to open your eyes. 4 QBs will go first round, all with "franchise" QB potential. Sorry if none give you a boner, but we HAVE to take one.
  • @cdl15 said:

    I understand that I don't see a franchise qb in this draft tho. And gettin kirk would end all 1st round qb talk.....I hope

    You need to open your eyes. 4 QBs will go first round, all with "franchise" QB potential. Sorry if none give you a boner, but we HAVE to take one.

    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    You need to open your eyes. 4 QBs will go first round, all with "franchise" QB potential. Sorry if none give you a boner, but we HAVE to take one.

    we do?? Baaaaa baaaaa
  • I'm going to say I doubt he follows Shanahan here because it looks like Shanahan's interview went very poorly.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000320589/article/kyle-shanahans-interview-with-browns-didnt-go-as-planned

    @hunt-daddy said:

    I'm going to say I doubt he follows Shanahan here because it looks like Shanahan's interview went very poorly.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000320589/article/kyle-shanahans-interview-with-browns-didnt-go-as-planned

    Well he probably doesn't need the money right yet and there will certainly be more coordinator jobs open up next season. And if he had a conflict with rg3 and his pop about what kind of offense he wanted to run I can't imagine him coming in and sayings sure Mr banner whatever you say. We shall see.

    WSS

  • @cdl15 said:

    I understand that I don't see a franchise qb in this draft tho. And gettin kirk would end all 1st round qb talk.....I hope

    You need to open your eyes. 4 QBs will go first round, all with "franchise" QB potential. Sorry if none give you a boner, but we HAVE to take one.

    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    You need to open your eyes. 4 QBs will go first round, all with "franchise" QB potential. Sorry if none give you a boner, but we HAVE to take one.

    Of course if you still have a boner for one of them after a couple sub .500 seasons, well see a physician immediately.

    WSS

  • Shanahan reportedly likes Grossman and Grossman reportedly knows Shanahan's system and will serve as a playing coach. You may have mistaken me, for someone who is pimping Grossman or Kirk Cousins. I'm not. All I was saying is that neither I nor any of the analysts I have read see a blue ship quarterback in this draft. Could be that Lombardi and Banner are a lot smarter than they seem to have been given credit for here and will pull a rabbit out of their collective hats.

    But if the rumors are true that Kyle Shanahan was at odds with rg3 then it would stand to reason that there will be problems between him and Johnny Manziel. Maybe Johnny isn't the guy at the front office really wants and it's just a smoke screen.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Shanahan reportedly likes Grossman and Grossman reportedly knows Shanahan's system and will serve as a playing coach. You may have mistaken me, for someone who is pimping Grossman or Kirk Cousins. I'm not. All I was saying is that neither I nor any of the analysts I have read see a blue ship quarterback in this draft. Could be that Lombardi and Banner are a lot smarter than they seem to have been given credit for here and will pull a rabbit out of their collective hats.

    But if the rumors are true that Kyle Shanahan was at odds with rg3 then it would stand to reason that there will be problems between him and Johnny Manziel. Maybe Johnny isn't the guy at the front office really wants and it's just a smoke screen.

    WSS

    Some reports say the Shanahan interview didn't go well and it wouldn't surprise me to hear that the Browns' love for Manziel has something to do with it.

    I've also read Shanahan is a guy who forces players into his system and is not willing to adapt to the players. Basically the opposite philosophy of what Pettine stated.

  • @westside-steve said:

    Shanahan reportedly likes Grossman and Grossman reportedly knows Shanahan's system and will serve as a playing coach. You may have mistaken me, for someone who is pimping Grossman or Kirk Cousins. I'm not. All I was saying is that neither I nor any of the analysts I have read see a blue ship quarterback in this draft.

    "Grossman" and "coach" just don't go together in my brain...

    Totally agree on "our" QB draft analysis.

    @thenew23 said:

    Seriously...? He started 1 game in 2012, and it happened to be against the no pass-rush, no secondary Cleveland Browns who, like always, made him look like an All-pro. Last year, he only had 1 decent game which was against a struggling ATL... a game he threw 2 INTs in, and his team lost...

    Yes, seriously... He did look good against us in 2012, but he also stepped into two other games when RG3 got dinged and did well.

    The 2013 ATL game was the first of the RG3 shutdown games. While you're correct that he threw 2 INTs, he also completed 64% of his passes for 381 yards and 3 TDs. I saw the game. Cousins fought hard in a game where many of his teammates looked like they were mailing it in.

    I think he's worth what I proposed.

    @tour2ma said:

    "Grossman" and "coach" just don't go together in my brain...

    I don't know. Most of the best coaches really were quite average players. Of the current crop of NFL HCs only Jim Harbaugh and Jeff Fisher could probably be said to have been "above average" NFL players. I am not sure that Grossman can be called above average...so maybe he could be a good coach.

  • @cdl15 said:

    I understand that I don't see a franchise qb in this draft tho. And gettin kirk would end all 1st round qb talk.....I hope

    You need to open your eyes. 4 QBs will go first round, all with "franchise" QB potential. Sorry if none give you a boner, but we HAVE to take one.

    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    You need to open your eyes. 4 QBs will go first round, all with "franchise" QB potential. Sorry if none give you a boner, but we HAVE to take one.

    If we assess that none of them are truly franchise QB's at pick 4 or less we certainly do not HAVE to take one of them in the first round. Stretching for picks is what kills teams.

  • XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    You need to open your eyes. 4 QBs will go first round, all with "franchise" QB potential. Sorry if none give you a boner, but we HAVE to take one.

    If we assess that none of them are truly franchise QB's at pick 4 or less we certainly do not HAVE to take one of them in the first round. Stretching for picks is what kills teams.

    @jcam222 said:

    If we assess that none of them are truly franchise QB's at pick 4 or less we certainly do not HAVE to take one of them in the first round. Stretching for picks is what kills teams.

    correction, not having QBs kills teams.
  • Figure out who your favorite is, determine his value, make sure u get him. Period.

  • I'm going to say I doubt he follows Shanahan here because it looks like Shanahan's interview went very poorly.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000320589/article/kyle-shanahans-interview-with-browns-didnt-go-as-planned

    @hunt-daddy said:

    I'm going to say I doubt he follows Shanahan here because it looks like Shanahan's interview went very poorly.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000320589/article/kyle-shanahans-interview-with-browns-didnt-go-as-planned

    First, how the hell does this type of info get out so quickly? Our FO seems awfully leaky... It could be the interviewee, but seldom do you run out and proclaim to the world how shitty your interview went.

    Second, (as I think a new thread here also says) the linked article announced that the FO had tabbed our new QB coach? Wow... is there anything else we can do to make our OC position less attractive?

    @jcam222 said:

    Stretching for picks is what kills teams.

    Yup... certainly the case in Round one.

  • @jcam222 said:

    If we assess that none of them are truly franchise QB's at pick 4 or less we certainly do not HAVE to take one of them in the first round. Stretching for picks is what kills teams.

    correction, not having QBs kills teams.

    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    correction, not having QBs kills teams.

    So will picking a Ryan Leaf, Joey Harrington, Matt Leinart, or Akilli Smith. If you deem the talent there, go for it- if not, pass. Jameis Winston is better than any of the"franchise qbs" in this years draft- probably Mairotta too.

  • XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    correction, not having QBs kills teams.

    So will picking a Ryan Leaf, Joey Harrington, Matt Leinart, or Akilli Smith. If you deem the talent there, go for it- if not, pass. Jameis Winston is better than any of the"franchise qbs" in this years draft- probably Mairotta too.

    @hoorta said:

    So will picking a Ryan Leaf, Joey Harrington, Matt Leinart, or Akilli Smith. If you deem the talent there, go for it- if not, pass. Jameis Winston is better than any of the"franchise qbs" in this years draft- probably Mairotta too.

    Yea, it is a concern that that is what this QB crop could turn into.

    But then, some say that Winston has a lot of Jamarcus Russell in him