I would eat an Entire bag of dicks if it got you to like me
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Really? They split the 2 games and neither made the playoffs, and except for a real QB and maybe the RB I believe the talent pool for each team comes down on the side of the Browns
That light year is really maybe the distance to the end of your front porch.
You may know your history, but as far a current history..ugh you're lacking. Any smart person with a brain knows the Browns franchise is laughable in comparison to the Ravens. are you aware that the Ravens are a model franchise and considered one of the top 5 in all of football? The Browns can be argued as one of if not the worst franchises in football. No one wanted to be your HC or OC....says enough...
You may know your history, but as far a current history..ugh you're lacking. Any smart person with a brain knows the Browns franchise is laughable in comparison to the Ravens. are you aware that the Ravens are a model franchise and considered one of the top 5 in all of football? The Browns can be argued as one of if not the worst franchises in football. No one wanted to be your HC or OC....says enough...
Really? Show me the Official Certified Edict that declares the Ravens to be considered a Top 5 model franchise. And that shows the Browns to be one of the worst.
Give me something OTHER than your stupid opinion.
Because right now what I see is two teams in similar circumstance. They spit their series this past year, and they both failed to make the playoffs.
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No, there is not too many to talk about. In fact, there are too few. Name one or two.
FYI, he didn't "move" to bring football back to Baltimore. Just a couple of years earlier he said Baltimore didn't deserve a team.
He moved for one reason, pure and simple: $$$$$$.
If you don't understand that, then you are stupid.
No shit...but that doesn't mean he wasn't a civic hero in this town...
No shit...but that doesn't mean he wasn't a civic hero in this town...
Do you build monuments to your street walking whores? (They probably bring more credit to your town than Modell did).
Here is a clue for you: Modell is a pariah everywhere but Baltimore.. Ask any Bengal/Steeler/Bills etc. fan.
I mean, if Modell is supposed to be some civic hero then Robert Irsay is as well.
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Then you are lying to yourself. If the Rats had not won that title in 2000 and the Colts had won the one in 2006, you all would have been all bitter beer faces over it.
But, again thanks to Ozzie and Biscotti you didn't have to feel that way. But trust me, you would have.
I will admit anything, but this is just not true...you can talk about Cleveland, but you know ZERO about Baltimore. We were long over the Irsay thing...the SB in 2000 was just for our own pride and validation that what Irsay did was a bad move. The 2000 SB was more of a pound your chest win honestly lol. Since then though this city has just been in a love affair with the Ravens and the Irsay think is honestly on the back burner
I will admit anything, but this is just not true...you can talk about Cleveland, but you know ZERO about Baltimore. We were long over the Irsay thing...the SB in 2000 was just for our own pride and validation that what Irsay did was a bad move. The 2000 SB was more of a pound your chest win honestly lol. Since then though this city has just been in a love affair with the Ravens and the Irsay think is honestly on the back burner
Yes. Exactly what I said. The Ravens winning that Super Bowl did a lot to salve your butt hurt over Irsay.
BUT. If the Ravens had been perennial losers......you and all your whore worshiping minions would still be all Frankenstein's Village over Irsay.
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So are yours, so I see really no difference.
Of the two cities which was the last one to have a team in the playoffs of their sport? Cleveland.
LOL well we only have 2 teams here...the Orioles are owned by an asshole, so we in this town kinda look at us having one team...You;re an idiot with this statement btw...I mean come on...how often do you beat the Ravens? 1 out of 12? Nice. Proud you finally one a game against Joe Flacco? Oh yeah, he sucks doesn't he? Losers.
LOL well we only have 2 teams here...the Orioles are owned by an asshole, so we in this town kinda look at us having one team...You;re an idiot with this statement btw...I mean come on...how often do you beat the Ravens? 1 out of 12? Nice. Proud you finally one a game against Joe Flacco? Oh yeah, he sucks doesn't he? Losers.
The question isn't what we did in the past, but what we will do in the future.
In the most current aspect....last year, the Browns and Ravens are 1-1.
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Ravens5220 said:
The Browns were winning Championships well before Ray Ray started knifing people.
No Superbowls...and pretty sure no one in this forum witnessed a Browns championship.
Carry on my friends...carry on.
No Superbowls...and pretty sure no one in this forum witnessed a Browns championship.
Carry on my friends...carry on.
Would you really like to place a bet on this? In my life the Browns have won 3 Championships.
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Will those rings fit up your punk ass with your head that's already there.? Shit from what I hear from you Modell may be buried in your ass too. In all likelihood your ass is plenty loose for all that and more. Get the fuck out of here. Is your team site so boring you have to come here to troll for excitement? Why don't you head down to the harbor and play with the dopers and homeless for awhile. Baltimore is a shit hole and you know it.
^^^ angry man....sheesh...maybe if you read my first few posts. I had no interest in fighting, but ALL of you insisted. I am in plenty Ravens blogs and forums....we have many people who are fans of other teams, no one treats them the way you guys do. I came here to talk football in mature way, but all you guys did was insist on nonsense, so I went with it.
^^^ angry man....sheesh...maybe if you read my first few posts. I had no interest in fighting, but ALL of you insisted. I am in plenty Ravens blogs and forums....we have many people who are fans of other teams, no one treats them the way you guys do. I came here to talk football in mature way, but all you guys did was insist on nonsense, so I went with it.
We treat assholes the way assholes should be treated. We treat ignorant people the way idiots should be treated.
If you don't like the way you are treated, then it all falls back on your head. You have no one to blame but yourself for any ill treament you receive.
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Absolutely. If you knew anything about the Ravens franchise you would know they disposed of so many of those turds that came over from CLE.
Like Bill Bellichick, Modell is the only owner who fired a HOF coach (Paul Brown) a lock (Bill) and a near miss Marty Schottenheimer. Failed owner- yup, you got that one right.
Like Bill Bellichick, Modell is the only owner who fired a HOF coach (Paul Brown) a lock (Bill) and a near miss Marty Schottenheimer. Failed owner- yup, you got that one right.
Oh yeah because Bill was worth a hoot before Brady showed up...Lets see how he fairs after Tommy boy retires....
Marty Schottenheimer? Oh yeah....so amazing....how many super bowls he won?
He hired Brian Billick. He won a championship.
He was part of process to hire John Harbaugh...He won a championship.
whats your argument? You have none.
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Are you trolls aware that Paul Kruger wears this under his jersey each game...LOL
Are you trolls aware that Paul Kruger wears this under his jersey each game...LOL
Yea, we ARE smart enough to know a photoshopped picture when we see one. Or, more likely these T-shirts were handed out to every Ravens player and they were told to wear them. This picture was taken when he was with the Ravens, so that is probably it.
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I finally got through reading this thread. What kept my interest? This Ravens fan that I can't believe how misinformed and delusional he is. He can't see logic at all, and is just running in circles. He has contradicted everything he says. I was keeping track but lost count of the contradictions.
BTW, what is with the stupid chant? Leave it up to your fan base to take a good song and butcher it. Annoying. But what's laughable is how pathetic it is and unoriginal, as you stole the idea from European soccer fans who have been doing it years before you. (There's a peculiar pattern of stealing in the land of Baltimore.)
Baltimore: They can't hang onto a franchise, nor start one from scratch.
I finally got through reading this thread. What kept my interest? This Ravens fan that I can't believe how misinformed and delusional he is. He can't see logic at all, and is just running in circles. He has contradicted everything he says. I was keeping track but lost count of the contradictions.
BTW, what is with the stupid chant? Leave it up to your fan base to take a good song and butcher it. Annoying. But what's laughable is how pathetic it is and unoriginal, as you stole the idea from European soccer fans who have been doing it years before you. (There's a peculiar pattern of stealing in the land of Baltimore.)
Baltimore: They can't hang onto a franchise, nor start one from scratch.
You're an idiot....just because sundays in BALTIMORE and the fan experience in M&T Bank is far superior then to the one in Cleveland no need to hate. funny that you bring up the song and chant...if you listen around the league...everyone has started to "try" and do that since the Ravens won super bowl. Maybe it was taken from European soccer fans, but no one in the NFL had been doing it.
Baltimore > Cleveland in sports....no doubt about it.
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Absolutely. If you knew anything about the Ravens franchise you would know they disposed of so many of those turds that came over from CLE.
Yea, well a lot of those turds were Mike Lombardi acquisitions. So now you know why we are not too high on our current GM.
Yea, well a lot of those turds were Mike Lombardi acquisitions. So now you know why we are not too high on our current GM.
It is far more than your current GM...they made a nice TRICH trade. LOL
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but fighting with the enemy is fun , I gotta admit though your first few posts were respectful. As someone pointed out if you camp out on an enemy board you have to have thick skin.
I have thick skin...but my intentions were never to argue with anyone. i RESPECT all of you and just wanted to talk fair football stuff. I know we won't always agree, but no need for the hate talk and all the nonsense. I was never all about it, but everyone else in here started it...
I have thick skin...but my intentions were never to argue with anyone. i RESPECT all of you and just wanted to talk fair football stuff. I know we won't always agree, but no need for the hate talk and all the nonsense. I was never all about it, but everyone else in here started it...
Not only are you ignorant, You have absolutely no self awareness.. In fact you sound and act like a chick.
Z....you got this person wrong. He is not a male, thus he cannot have a bag o' dicks....unless he is taking up an orifice.
This guy is more like Vagitron Jr.
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You may know your history, but as far a current history..ugh you're lacking. Any smart person with a brain knows the Browns franchise is laughable in comparison to the Ravens. are you aware that the Ravens are a model franchise and considered one of the top 5 in all of football? The Browns can be argued as one of if not the worst franchises in football. No one wanted to be your HC or OC....says enough...
Really? Show me the Official Certified Edict that declares the Ravens to be considered a Top 5 model franchise. And that shows the Browns to be one of the worst.
Give me something OTHER than your stupid opinion.
Because right now what I see is two teams in similar circumstance. They spit their series this past year, and they both failed to make the playoffs.
Really? Show me the Official Certified Edict that declares the Ravens to be considered a Top 5 model franchise. And that shows the Browns to be one of the worst.
Give me something OTHER than your stupid opinion.
Because right now what I see is two teams in similar circumstance. They spit their series this past year, and they both failed to make the playoffs.
LOL @ YOU....you are like Orioles fans in town...you back your team at every chance even when the obvious is the obvious and they stink.
Go ask any NFL talking head or anyone who you consider a smart NFLer and ask them the question of Browns franchise vs. Ravens...they will laugh at you.
Ravens are top 5. check winning percentage, draft picks, pro bowlers, championships, GM (regarded as best in league), etc. I could go on forever. Is there anything the Browns have better than Ravens at this point?
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LOL well we only have 2 teams here...the Orioles are owned by an asshole, so we in this town kinda look at us having one team...You;re an idiot with this statement btw...I mean come on...how often do you beat the Ravens? 1 out of 12? Nice. Proud you finally one a game against Joe Flacco? Oh yeah, he sucks doesn't he? Losers.
The question isn't what we did in the past, but what we will do in the future.
In the most current aspect....last year, the Browns and Ravens are 1-1.
The question isn't what we did in the past, but what we will do in the future.
In the most current aspect....last year, the Browns and Ravens are 1-1.
Lol OH YEAH because your future looks so bright....I've heard this from a Browns fan before....How many GMs and Coaches have you disposed of over the last 10 years....
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^^^ angry man....sheesh...maybe if you read my first few posts. I had no interest in fighting, but ALL of you insisted. I am in plenty Ravens blogs and forums....we have many people who are fans of other teams, no one treats them the way you guys do. I came here to talk football in mature way, but all you guys did was insist on nonsense, so I went with it.
We treat assholes the way assholes should be treated. We treat ignorant people the way idiots should be treated.
If you don't like the way you are treated, then it all falls back on your head. You have no one to blame but yourself for any ill treament you receive.
We treat assholes the way assholes should be treated. We treat ignorant people the way idiots should be treated.
If you don't like the way you are treated, then it all falls back on your head. You have no one to blame but yourself for any ill treament you receive.
I'm a big boy...I can handle all of this...I just laugh at how angry you people are. I understand how a mess your franchise is and that would upset me too, but sheesh.
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Are you trolls aware that Paul Kruger wears this under his jersey each game...LOL
Yea, we ARE smart enough to know a photoshopped picture when we see one. Or, more likely these T-shirts were handed out to every Ravens player and they were told to wear them. This picture was taken when he was with the Ravens, so that is probably it.
Yea, we ARE smart enough to know a photoshopped picture when we see one. Or, more likely these T-shirts were handed out to every Ravens player and they were told to wear them. This picture was taken when he was with the Ravens, so that is probably it.
LOL boy you're an idiot...yes all the players got these from Ray Lewis...who wears Modell on his shirt since the day he came here. (another fact you wouldn't know)...Ask Kruger next time you see him...what he thinks about Modell? And again, you're wrong...he got this shirt last year, but still wears it every game as a brown. He is on record of saying this on radio....
Sorry to upset you but its true. You may know your history and be some NFL expert, but you're wrong about this one.
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I finally got through reading this thread. What kept my interest? This Ravens fan that I can't believe how misinformed and delusional he is. He can't see logic at all, and is just running in circles. He has contradicted everything he says. I was keeping track but lost count of the contradictions.
BTW, what is with the stupid chant? Leave it up to your fan base to take a good song and butcher it. Annoying. But what's laughable is how pathetic it is and unoriginal, as you stole the idea from European soccer fans who have been doing it years before you. (There's a peculiar pattern of stealing in the land of Baltimore.)
Baltimore: They can't hang onto a franchise, nor start one from scratch.
I finally got through reading this thread. What kept my interest? This Ravens fan that I can't believe how misinformed and delusional he is. He can't see logic at all, and is just running in circles. He has contradicted everything he says. I was keeping track but lost count of the contradictions.
BTW, what is with the stupid chant? Leave it up to your fan base to take a good song and butcher it. Annoying. But what's laughable is how pathetic it is and unoriginal, as you stole the idea from European soccer fans who have been doing it years before you. (There's a peculiar pattern of stealing in the land of Baltimore.)
Baltimore: They can't hang onto a franchise, nor start one from scratch.
Well, here is a statistic that you may be interested in:
Of the current 124 major league franchises in the MLB/NBA/NFL/NHL 43 of them began their existance in another city. That represent 34.6% or more than 1 in 3.
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Really? Show me the Official Certified Edict that declares the Ravens to be considered a Top 5 model franchise. And that shows the Browns to be one of the worst.
Give me something OTHER than your stupid opinion.
Because right now what I see is two teams in similar circumstance. They spit their series this past year, and they both failed to make the playoffs.
LOL @ YOU....you are like Orioles fans in town...you back your team at every chance even when the obvious is the obvious and they stink.
Go ask any NFL talking head or anyone who you consider a smart NFLer and ask them the question of Browns franchise vs. Ravens...they will laugh at you.
Ravens are top 5. check winning percentage, draft picks, pro bowlers, championships, GM (regarded as best in league), etc. I could go on forever. Is there anything the Browns have better than Ravens at this point?
LOL @ YOU....you are like Orioles fans in town...you back your team at every chance even when the obvious is the obvious and they stink.
Go ask any NFL talking head or anyone who you consider a smart NFLer and ask them the question of Browns franchise vs. Ravens...they will laugh at you.
Ravens are top 5. check winning percentage, draft picks, pro bowlers, championships, GM (regarded as best in league), etc. I could go on forever. Is there anything the Browns have better than Ravens at this point?
But show me something official. You opened your mouth. now prove it.
As for what do the Browns have that the Rats don't:
Winning pct...the Rats were what 8-8? Hardly Top 5% Sure, better than the Browns. Congratulations on being mediocre.
Draft picks? The Brown have 10 picks in the upcoming draft.
Pro Bowlers? The Browns had more: Gordon/Thomas/Mack/Cameron/Haden/Ward
Ravens: Yanda, Ngata, Suggs, Tucker
Championships? You have a couple. Of the 32 NFL franchises 14 of them have more than your measly 2, and 5 others have just as many. And the Browns have 8.
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Yea, we ARE smart enough to know a photoshopped picture when we see one. Or, more likely these T-shirts were handed out to every Ravens player and they were told to wear them. This picture was taken when he was with the Ravens, so that is probably it.
LOL boy you're an idiot...yes all the players got these from Ray Lewis...who wears Modell on his shirt since the day he came here. (another fact you wouldn't know)...Ask Kruger next time you see him...what he thinks about Modell? And again, you're wrong...he got this shirt last year, but still wears it every game as a brown. He is on record of saying this on radio....
Sorry to upset you but its true. You may know your history and be some NFL expert, but you're wrong about this one.
Ask Kruger next time you see him...what he thinks about Modell? And again, you're wrong...he got this shirt last year, but still wears it every game as a brown. He is on record of saying this on radio....
Prove it.. If it was on radio, I'm sure you can find the interview on the stations website.
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Like Bill Bellichick, Modell is the only owner who fired a HOF coach (Paul Brown) a lock (Bill) and a near miss Marty Schottenheimer. Failed owner- yup, you got that one right.
Oh yeah because Bill was worth a hoot before Brady showed up...Lets see how he fairs after Tommy boy retires....
Marty Schottenheimer? Oh yeah....so amazing....how many super bowls he won?
He hired Brian Billick. He won a championship.
He was part of process to hire John Harbaugh...He won a championship.
whats your argument? You have none.
Oh yeah because Bill was worth a hoot before Brady showed up...Lets see how he fairs after Tommy boy retires....
Marty Schottenheimer? Oh yeah....so amazing....how many super bowls he won?
He hired Brian Billick. He won a championship.
He was part of process to hire John Harbaugh...He won a championship.
whats your argument? You have none.
The one poster is right. You talk in circles and contradict yourself.
Hoorta's point is that Modell will have fired more HOF or near HOF coaches than just about any one ever. He did fire PB and BB....for what its worth, those two are Hall of Famers.
And just because you didn't win a title like Marty didn't mean he wasn't a good coach. Lots of good coaches never won titles: Chuck Knox, Bud Grant, Marv Levy, etc.
And FYI, Art didn't have a cabbage fart to do with hiring Harbaugh. That was Biscotti and Ozzie.
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I finally got through reading this thread. What kept my interest? This Ravens fan that I can't believe how misinformed and delusional he is. He can't see logic at all, and is just running in circles. He has contradicted everything he says. I was keeping track but lost count of the contradictions.
BTW, what is with the stupid chant? Leave it up to your fan base to take a good song and butcher it. Annoying. But what's laughable is how pathetic it is and unoriginal, as you stole the idea from European soccer fans who have been doing it years before you. (There's a peculiar pattern of stealing in the land of Baltimore.)
Baltimore: They can't hang onto a franchise, nor start one from scratch.
You're an idiot....just because sundays in BALTIMORE and the fan experience in M&T Bank is far superior then to the one in Cleveland no need to hate. funny that you bring up the song and chant...if you listen around the league...everyone has started to "try" and do that since the Ravens won super bowl. Maybe it was taken from European soccer fans, but no one in the NFL had been doing it.
Baltimore > Cleveland in sports....no doubt about it.
You're an idiot....just because sundays in BALTIMORE and the fan experience in M&T Bank is far superior then to the one in Cleveland no need to hate. funny that you bring up the song and chant...if you listen around the league...everyone has started to "try" and do that since the Ravens won super bowl. Maybe it was taken from European soccer fans, but no one in the NFL had been doing it.
Baltimore > Cleveland in sports....no doubt about it.
The only reason the "fan experience" at M&T stadium is superior is because the Ravens have been winners.
Anything else doesn't matter.
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