Browns trying to lock up Joe Haden, talked yesterday - so it begins
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I loved San Diego when I was there, but it's been quite awhile. I'm sure it is much more crowded and expensive then it was when I was there. I hated LA, polluted cess pool of crime and pollution. Northern CA is nice except for SF area.
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@mike-h said:
I like Joe a lot, I'm not bashing him because I said he didn't have a Top 5 year at his position.
What 5 were better?
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skrine is not a #2 corner. that is something we have to address swiftly in the draft......someone with height and speed.
mike H, all of a sudden you are looking like the biggest hater on this forum. if people don't agree with you, you say they know nothing about football.
having a major in journalism doesn't make you a genius at anything, except how to write grammatically correct and either state facts or give your opinions.
sorta like everyone else on this board. you are seriously turning out to be a dick.
having a major in journalism doesn't make you a genius at anything, except how to write grammatically correct and either state facts or give your opinions.
sorta like everyone else on this board. you are seriously turning out to be a dick.
A major in journalism only means you make poor career choices. If you want to write just blog, bro
On a serious note, you're right Toxic, Skrine is not good and needs to get addressed.
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I'll say this.
Joe Haden is a top 10 CB in the league. He's worth keeping long term. I don't think anybody disagrees.
I appreciate Mike H's point as it's valid. But there's too many factors like time.on field, safety help, etc. that impact him slightly.
Regardless of anyone's personal dislikes everyone still wants Haden for the long term.
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I'll say this.
Joe Haden is a top 10 CB in the league. He's worth keeping long term. I don't think anybody disagrees.
I appreciate Mike H's point as it's valid. But there's too many factors like time.on field, safety help, etc. that impact him slightly.
Regardless of anyone's personal dislikes everyone still wants Haden for the long term.
I'll say this.
Joe Haden is a top 10 CB in the league. He's worth keeping long term. I don't think anybody disagrees.
I appreciate Mike H's point as it's valid. But there's too many factors like time.on field, safety help, etc. that impact him slightly.
Regardless of anyone's personal dislikes everyone still wants Haden for the long term.
agreed.
but let's also agree that we need another one just like him or better? capiche?
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Would rather keep Mack if I have a choice. Both of them would be a great day.
WSS
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Would rather keep Mack if I have a choice. Both of them would be a great day.
WSS
Would rather keep Mack if I have a choice. Both of them would be a great day.
WSS
You would keep a center over a young pro bowl CB? Are you nukinfutz
1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico -
Ahem. A pro bowl center.
Key of the O line.
WSS
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Would rather keep Mack if I have a choice. Both of them would be a great day.
WSS
You would keep a center over a young pro bowl CB? Are you nukinfutz
You would keep a center over a young pro bowl CB? Are you nukinfutz
Gotta agree
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Would rather keep Mack if I have a choice. Both of them would be a great day.
WSS
You would keep a center over a young pro bowl CB? Are you nukinfutz
You would keep a center over a young pro bowl CB? Are you nukinfutz
No I think he's younger than me....
WSS
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Ahem. A pro bowl center.
Key of the O line.
WSS
Ahem. A pro bowl center.
Key of the O line.
WSS
I wouldnt keep a HOF center over Haden. Macks not a very good runblocker against 3-4 nose tackles. I never understood why we never scheme plays for him to pull. He's probably the most athletic center in the league
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Ahem. A pro bowl center.
Key of the O line.
WSS
I wouldnt keep a HOF center over Haden. Macks not a very good runblocker against 3-4 nose tackles. I never understood why we never scheme plays for him to pull. He's probably the most athletic center in the league
I thought we shoulda tried Mack at LG and Greco at C last year...CBs are far more valuable than Cs. The average salaries prove most all teams agree.I wouldnt keep a HOF center over Haden. Macks not a very good runblocker against 3-4 nose tackles. I never understood why we never scheme plays for him to pull. He's probably the most athletic center in the league
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Hadens production dipped in the last 1/4 of the season. That Jacksonville burn was painful to watch, there were a few times when we, as fans, hated admitting it but said out loud "that was on Haden"
Happened quite a lot towards the end, the production of the D in general fell off big time.
It is not a stretch at all to say that TJ Ward had a better season than Haden. Ward was certainly more consistent
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Exactly. Haden had a few rough games where he was outplayed. Not just a few plays as some stated.
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@mike-h said:
And for those who say he had no safety help, he was put in those situations BECAUSE he is supposed to be that type of player. You don't get to be called ELITE, and then use that as an excuse. It doesn't work that way.
Either he plays better and is elite, or he's just another good corner in the crowd.
probably only because he/the team has no one on the opposite field to rely on, correct?
if we had a trufant playing opposite of him...........?
get it? i hope farmer does and makes it our second pick.
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@mike-h said:
And for those who say he had no safety help, he was put in those situations BECAUSE he is supposed to be that type of player. You don't get to be called ELITE, and then use that as an excuse. It doesn't work that way.
Either he plays better and is elite, or he's just another good corner in the crowd.
probably only because he/the team has no one on the opposite field to rely on, correct?
if we had a trufant playing opposite of him...........?
get it? i hope farmer does and makes it our second pick.
probably only because he/the team has no one on the opposite field to rely on, correct?
if we had a trufant playing opposite of him...........?
get it? i hope farmer does and makes it our second pick.
Dennard, but I don't think he falls to 26.
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Dennard, but I don't think he falls to 26.
i'd give a 3rd rounder to move up and get him if that's all it takes.......if not there are more out there. just not as good.
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i'd give a 3rd rounder to move up and get him if that's all it takes.......if not there are more out there. just not as good.
Finally someone who speaks some sense.
Clowney and Dennard is my dream first round.
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me too!!
we should be partners on the 'amazing race' or something just as gay!!
(for real that first round i might actually think of selling my soul for, if not my ass for a weekend...)
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I feel like there is a backlash against Haden ... from Browns fans nonetheless.
He is second team All Pro, and deservedly so.You don't just get votes for being a Brown.
He is absolutely the best cornerback this franchise has has since Minnifield peaked over 25 years ago.
If you are not happy with Joe Thomas, Josh Gordon or Joe Haden ... just go fuck yourself ... they are absolute stars on 32 teams.
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