Jonathan Paul Manziel
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@mike-h said:
Someone tell me Hoyers height weight and hand size.
He is mostly listed at 6'2, he has been listed by some teams as 6'3", he's probably somewhere in between.
Here he is with Tom Brady who is listed at 6'4. Maybe just over an inch difference?
Listed at 215 and seems to be every bit of it.
Arm span of 32 inches and hand size of 9.5 inches
Hands bigger than Bridgewater, a little smaller than Bortles and Manziel ... but they are all under 10", no?
Zombo
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I don't give a shit who is qb. Just win. That's all I want.
All I said is that he looks small. Wasn't sure he would withstand a beating. All these chicken shits here take that as a shot against their man love manziel.
Jesus Christ you girls are sensitive.
I don't care who qb is. Just win.
You're mistaking people correcting you for people disagreeing with you. In much the same way as I would correct someone saying "I don't believe Manziel is under 6' he looks taller than that" or similar.
You're mistaking people correcting you for people disagreeing with you. In much the same way as I would correct someone saying "I don't believe Manziel is under 6' he looks taller than that" or similar.
I admitted my mistake in i don't believe he's over 200lbs. I stand by he looks like a child. You guys are worse than middle school girls.
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You're mistaking people correcting you for people disagreeing with you. In much the same way as I would correct someone saying "I don't believe Manziel is under 6' he looks taller than that" or similar.
I admitted my mistake in i don't believe he's over 200lbs. I stand by he looks like a child. You guys are worse than middle school girls.
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Not one of the 60 guys at the combine we felt compelled to talk to:
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@mike-h said:
Thanks Z. My only point was that Hoyer is taller and leaner, something to think about.
Not sure certain people have the necessary equipment tho.
Bridgewater measured in at 6'2 and 214lb, people are saying he's too thin to take the NFL hits, and he's basically the same size/weight as Hoyer.
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@mike-h said:
Thanks Z. My only point was that Hoyer is taller and leaner, something to think about.
Not sure certain people have the necessary equipment tho.
Bridgewater measured in at 6'2 and 214lb, people are saying he's too thin to take the NFL hits, and he's basically the same size/weight as Hoyer.
Bridgewater measured in at 6'2 and 214lb, people are saying he's too thin to take the NFL hits, and he's basically the same size/weight as Hoyer.
Then it seems if they say Bridgewater can't take the hits, they must also say Hoyer and Manziel can't either.
I think they're all fine weight wise. There's so many QB rules to keep them healthy. Just changes once they get over that line of scrimmage - if they know when and how to slide they should avoid problems.
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Bridgewater measured in at 6'2 and 214lb, people are saying he's too thin to take the NFL hits, and he's basically the same size/weight as Hoyer.
Then it seems if they say Bridgewater can't take the hits, they must also say Hoyer and Manziel can't either.
I think they're all fine weight wise. There's so many QB rules to keep them healthy. Just changes once they get over that line of scrimmage - if they know when and how to slide they should avoid problems.
Then it seems if they say Bridgewater can't take the hits, they must also say Hoyer and Manziel can't either.
I think they're all fine weight wise. There's so many QB rules to keep them healthy. Just changes once they get over that line of scrimmage - if they know when and how to slide they should avoid problems.
Agree - I think Hoyer and Bridgewater and probably even JFF will be fine in terms of staying healthy. Just somebody, anybody, please teach Hoyer how to slide! If that's all we get out of the 22nd pick from 2012 then it'll be worth it.
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@walterwhite said:
What the fuck are you even saying?
Manziel has a better frame than Bridgewater, Murray, McCarron, and many other QB's in the this draft.
What does every Browns fan have this creepy obsession that all QB's must at least be 230 and 6'4?
I think it may be because the guys that generally win often have that sort of frame: Brady/Manning/ and the three guys in our division: BR/Flacco/Dalton.
Russell Wilson has obviously shown that such a frame is not absolutely necessary to win.... but he is a fairly rare exception. Most have been of the bigger variety..... and it may not be obsession, it may just be knowing the odds.
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@walterwhite said:
What the fuck are you even saying?
Manziel has a better frame than Bridgewater, Murray, McCarron, and many other QB's in the this draft.
What does every Browns fan have this creepy obsession that all QB's must at least be 230 and 6'4?
what the fuck is with you homos having so much man love for people.
Shit i didn't know it was combine stats. What the fuck ever. From his pics, he looks like a child. All I stated was i'm not sure he could take the hits from the men in the nfl.
You fruit cakes are so damn sensitive when it comes to your lover boys.
what the fuck is with you homos having so much man love for people.
Shit i didn't know it was combine stats. What the fuck ever. From his pics, he looks like a child. All I stated was i'm not sure he could take the hits from the men in the nfl.
You fruit cakes are so damn sensitive when it comes to your lover boys.
Well, that is why it is my philosophy to say: I don't give a damn who we pick.....but whomever we do pick better be a motherfucking winner.
That is all I really care about: not height/weight/speed/hair color/race/age/how hot his girlfriend is etc. etc..
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i'll take hoyer all day. hopefully mack is there @4 but his stock is rising.
i'd personally trade down, get evans use the pcik we get to trade up and get gilbert or dixon/pryor.
manziel does look like a kid. i betcha if you took his 'blankie' away from him he'd start crying.
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@walterwhite said:
Was this after he rammed it into Alabama in 2012 and won The Heisman or when he put up even better numbers in 2013?
He's rich, nails models, and is about to be an NFL QB.
You're just a broke pussy on a message board.
Walter seriously get your lips off manziels cock. You blow that motherfucker harder (haha) than anyone else on the BB. It's annoying. It's pathetic. If your going to be a manziel butt plunger and blower of cock at least be analytical and provide facts for your man love fest. Pathetic.
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Apparently Browns didn't interview Manziel at combine - not sure if that's been mentioned here before but you've got to think if you're thinking about taking him you'd interview the guy at least, him of all people.
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@mike-h said:
Ow.
This is getting Quinn v. DA status
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@walterwhite said:
Here's some facts for you:
63 passing TD's, 7,820 yards, 9.1 average, 69% completion, and 165 rating.
Over 2000 rush yards and 30 TD's with 93 total TD's and a Heisman trophy in the hardest conference in FBS.
Need anything else shit for brains?
hmm... does tim tebow come to mind
88 tds, 9285 yards, 9.3 avg, 66.4 comp %, 170.8 rating.
You girls are so infatuated with players it's sick. If someone says something negative about your boyfriend you take it so personal. If you're this bent out of shape about football debates on an internet forum, you're going to have a rough life. But with being a homo, your life thus far has probably been pretty... wait for it... rough. bahahahah
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Its like comparing Watkins to Evans. Sure, Evans has a few more inches, but in every other respect Watkins is the better prospect by a country mile.
sure if you wanna throw screens all day. he's not going to out-jump evans in the corner of the end zone or down the sidelines. the commentators during the combine stated how he blocks out the defender using his big frame, not letting the CB or whoever get in front of them.
hell, he made johnny manziel look good on all those ducks he threw downfield. he was catching everything in his combine drills catching the ball with his hands 3 inches off the ground. when have we ever had a receiver in recent years that can do that?
i would compare evans to all the good tall receivers in the league, whereas sammy is shorter and would be a tweener in the slot. haden would eat him up.
sure if you wanna throw screens all day. he's not going to out-jump evans in the corner of the end zone or down the sidelines. the commentators during the combine stated how he blocks out the defender using his big frame, not letting the CB or whoever get in front of them.
hell, he made johnny manziel look good on all those ducks he threw downfield. he was catching everything in his combine drills catching the ball with his hands 3 inches off the ground. when have we ever had a receiver in recent years that can do that?
i would compare evans to all the good tall receivers in the league, whereas sammy is shorter and would be a tweener in the slot. haden would eat him up.
He reminds me a lot of Alshon Jeffrey (Evans) and he seems to be doing pretty well for himself.
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I think it's apparent Watkins does other things than catch screens very well.
I like both Evans and Watkins though, Evans height makes him a little more attractive.
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I think they're built about the same.@mike-h said:
so you'd take Hoyer even though he is built leaner than Manziel and has already missed most of a season to injury? Please elaborate
Hoyer: 2.905 pounds per inch (74 inches, 215 pounds)
Manziel: 2.915 pounds per inch (71 inches, 207 pounds)
If this is how we're comparing quarterbacks now that is.
Hoyer plays more in the pocket. Teach him how to slide when he takes off and he'll be fine. If Manziel can be smart when he takes off he'll be fine injury wise too.
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I think it's apparent Watkins does other things than catch screens very well.
I like both Evans and Watkins though, Evans height makes him a little more attractive.
I like both Evans and Watkins though, Evans height makes him a little more attractive.
Hello sailor...
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@walterwhite said:
Was this after he rammed it into Alabama in 2012 and won The Heisman or when he put up even better numbers in 2013?
He's rich, nails models, and is about to be an NFL QB.
You're just a broke pussy on a message board.
I don't hate Manziel, but your man love levels are off the charts.
Were you one of his one night stands that's hoping he calls you back one day?
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