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  • i'll take hoyer all day. hopefully mack is there @4 but his stock is rising.

    i'd personally trade down, get evans use the pcik we get to trade up and get gilbert or dixon/pryor.

    manziel does look like a kid. i betcha if you took his 'blankie' away from him he'd start crying.

  • @walterwhite said:

    Was this after he rammed it into Alabama in 2012 and won The Heisman or when he put up even better numbers in 2013?

    He's rich, nails models, and is about to be an NFL QB.

    You're just a broke pussy on a message board.

    Walter seriously get your lips off manziels cock. You blow that motherfucker harder (haha) than anyone else on the BB. It's annoying. It's pathetic. If your going to be a manziel butt plunger and blower of cock at least be analytical and provide facts for your man love fest. Pathetic.

  • Apparently Browns didn't interview Manziel at combine - not sure if that's been mentioned here before but you've got to think if you're thinking about taking him you'd interview the guy at least, him of all people.

  • @mike-h said:

    Ow.

    This is getting Quinn v. DA status

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.

  • @walterwhite said:

    Here's some facts for you:

    63 passing TD's, 7,820 yards, 9.1 average, 69% completion, and 165 rating.

    Over 2000 rush yards and 30 TD's with 93 total TD's and a Heisman trophy in the hardest conference in FBS.

    Need anything else shit for brains?

    hmm... does tim tebow come to mind

    88 tds, 9285 yards, 9.3 avg, 66.4 comp %, 170.8 rating.

    You girls are so infatuated with players it's sick. If someone says something negative about your boyfriend you take it so personal. If you're this bent out of shape about football debates on an internet forum, you're going to have a rough life. But with being a homo, your life thus far has probably been pretty... wait for it... rough. bahahahah

  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    @roycerolls said:

    Its like comparing Watkins to Evans. Sure, Evans has a few more inches, but in every other respect Watkins is the better prospect by a country mile.

    sure if you wanna throw screens all day. he's not going to out-jump evans in the corner of the end zone or down the sidelines. the commentators during the combine stated how he blocks out the defender using his big frame, not letting the CB or whoever get in front of them.

    hell, he made johnny manziel look good on all those ducks he threw downfield. he was catching everything in his combine drills catching the ball with his hands 3 inches off the ground. when have we ever had a receiver in recent years that can do that?

    i would compare evans to all the good tall receivers in the league, whereas sammy is shorter and would be a tweener in the slot. haden would eat him up.

    @miktoxic said:

    sure if you wanna throw screens all day. he's not going to out-jump evans in the corner of the end zone or down the sidelines. the commentators during the combine stated how he blocks out the defender using his big frame, not letting the CB or whoever get in front of them.

    hell, he made johnny manziel look good on all those ducks he threw downfield. he was catching everything in his combine drills catching the ball with his hands 3 inches off the ground. when have we ever had a receiver in recent years that can do that?

    i would compare evans to all the good tall receivers in the league, whereas sammy is shorter and would be a tweener in the slot. haden would eat him up.

    He reminds me a lot of Alshon Jeffrey (Evans) and he seems to be doing pretty well for himself.

  • I think it's apparent Watkins does other things than catch screens very well.

    I like both Evans and Watkins though, Evans height makes him a little more attractive.

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  • @mike-h said:

    so you'd take Hoyer even though he is built leaner than Manziel and has already missed most of a season to injury? Please elaborate

    I think they're built about the same.

    Hoyer: 2.905 pounds per inch (74 inches, 215 pounds)

    Manziel: 2.915 pounds per inch (71 inches, 207 pounds)

    If this is how we're comparing quarterbacks now that is.

    Hoyer plays more in the pocket. Teach him how to slide when he takes off and he'll be fine. If Manziel can be smart when he takes off he'll be fine injury wise too.

  • bbedwardB bbedward

    I think it's apparent Watkins does other things than catch screens very well.

    I like both Evans and Watkins though, Evans height makes him a little more attractive.

    @bbedward said:

    I like both Evans and Watkins though, Evans height makes him a little more attractive.

    Hello sailor... 😉

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  • @walterwhite said:

    Was this after he rammed it into Alabama in 2012 and won The Heisman or when he put up even better numbers in 2013?

    He's rich, nails models, and is about to be an NFL QB.

    You're just a broke pussy on a message board.

    I don't hate Manziel, but your man love levels are off the charts.

    Were you one of his one night stands that's hoping he calls you back one day?

  • Ya, the Johnny Jismeaters are the new Quinn Fags. It's a shame, he's a talented guy.

    Zombo

  • @mike-h said:

    This is really funny.

    The same people saying others are in 'love' with Manziel--I'm not BTW.. Teddy B is my guy--are the same guys who are head over heels for another player like Watkins, Hoyer, or Dion Lewis, lol.

    Who cares?

    Like who you like and own it.

    Two more months to go.

    Browns fans are allowed to be head over heels over Hoyer and Lewis cause they wear brown and orange and have done nothing deserving of hate. The talk on here the past 2 months would be more suited for an Aggies forum. I'll go head over heels for Manziel once he is in a Browns uniform and performs well... or Bridgewater or Bortles or whoever they pick.

  • @walterwhite said:

    Manziel would give this rotten, dying, corpse of a sports city a spark of life that's much needed.

    Seattle is like a hot blonde with fake tits walking down 5th avenue with Burberry bags

    Cleveland is like some balding guy scratching his ass, picking his nose, and pulling out his credit card from his fanny pack at Wal Mart to buy some deep fried Mayonaise Balls.

    I'm sure he can take over RGIIIs spot in all those Subway commercials, now that Griffin had a down year. Granted Manziel had some great games against Alabama and others,

    But how about 70% completion rate, 13,000 passing yards, 155 rating, 1,500 yards rushing, 132 TDs- Heisman Finalist. In a major conference. I'll save you the trouble Walter- those stats belong to Colt McCoy. Oh, BTW Colt got drafted in the third round- and gee, more than one scout and Ron Jaworski have Johnny Football as a third round talent.

    And if it makes you happy I don't- I wouldn't touch him at #4 overall though.

  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    @roycerolls said:

    Its like comparing Watkins to Evans. Sure, Evans has a few more inches, but in every other respect Watkins is the better prospect by a country mile.

    sure if you wanna throw screens all day. he's not going to out-jump evans in the corner of the end zone or down the sidelines. the commentators during the combine stated how he blocks out the defender using his big frame, not letting the CB or whoever get in front of them.

    hell, he made johnny manziel look good on all those ducks he threw downfield. he was catching everything in his combine drills catching the ball with his hands 3 inches off the ground. when have we ever had a receiver in recent years that can do that?

    i would compare evans to all the good tall receivers in the league, whereas sammy is shorter and would be a tweener in the slot. haden would eat him up.

    @miktoxic said:

    sure if you wanna throw screens all day. he's not going to out-jump evans in the corner of the end zone or down the sidelines. the commentators during the combine stated how he blocks out the defender using his big frame, not letting the CB or whoever get in front of them.

    hell, he made johnny manziel look good on all those ducks he threw downfield. he was catching everything in his combine drills catching the ball with his hands 3 inches off the ground. when have we ever had a receiver in recent years that can do that?

    i would compare evans to all the good tall receivers in the league, whereas sammy is shorter and would be a tweener in the slot. haden would eat him up.

    As noted elsewhere Evans is similar to Alshon Jeffries. Not a bad choice. Watkins isn't exactly a shrimp @ 6'1". - that's taller than Roddy White.

    Just a matter of preference Mik. do you want the big guy or a home run threat?

  • @mike-h said:

    so you'd take Hoyer even though he is built leaner than Manziel and has already missed most of a season to injury? Please elaborate

    no. it's just that i wouldn't take any of these guys coming into the draft with our first pick. use it on another need. like mack to replace DQ or trade down and get one of the biggest WRs (physically) to lob passes high too, ala JF. evans should have won the heisman for how many floaters he caught saving manziel's azz.

    i don't hate anybody. if we pull out a miracle and can draft a WR, CB/S and QB in the first round via trading up and such, i'll be thrilled to high heaven. i'm just thinking the QB should be the 3rd pick out of the 3 and i don't give a shit who it is, BECAUSE we already have a starting QB named hoyer. if we don't draft a QB at all i'd be fine with it.

    i'll own to the fact that i like evans over watkins. i like gilbert and dixon. i like storm johnson.

    but i'm not going to start throwing names around because someone doesn't agree with me. i'm not going to purchase a fatface of the guy and stick it on my ceiling above my futon in my bedroom/basement and whack off to the guy 4 times a day.

    everyone jumped on PoG last year for his man-love with TR. well there a couple of PoG clones trolling this board right now.

    @walterwhite said:

    Manziel would give this rotten, dying, corpse of a sports city a spark of life that's much needed.

    Seattle is like a hot blonde with fake tits walking down 5th avenue with Burberry bags

    Cleveland is like some balding guy scratching his ass, picking his nose, and pulling out his credit card from his fanny pack at Wal Mart to buy some deep fried Mayonaise Balls.

    is that what you really think about cleveland?

    you should be stripped of the privilege of being a browns fan you fat fucking douche bag.

    Cleveland is like some balding guy scratching his ass, picking his nose, and pulling out his credit card from his fanny pack at Wal Mart to buy some deep fried Mayonaise Balls. - that's you correct?

  • we already have 2 home run threats (gordon and benjamin) i want the easy touchdown in the red zone guy. i want the guy that will be long enough to catch a ball over thrown, and over any defender. that's a home run to me.

  • I think Hoyer is a bit overvalued on this board. Sure he was serviceable in a couple games last year, but all I seen was a backup. I do think he earned a spot on the team, but if he is starting we really need to temper our expectations for next season. He is a hometown guy so I get why he is a fan favorite, but I am offering an unbiased opinion.

    If we draft manzeil before the 3rd I'll be devastated. There is too much talent in this draft to burn an early pick on a qb that has so many red flags. I honestly would rather sign mike Vick and pick up a late round qb if Bridgewater isn't there at 4

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  • Put me down for Clowney or Watkins at 4.

  • Louisville SluggerL Louisville Slugger

    I think Hoyer is a bit overvalued on this board. Sure he was serviceable in a couple games last year, but all I seen was a backup. I do think he earned a spot on the team, but if he is starting we really need to temper our expectations for next season. He is a hometown guy so I get why he is a fan favorite, but I am offering an unbiased opinion.

    If we draft manzeil before the 3rd I'll be devastated. There is too much talent in this draft to burn an early pick on a qb that has so many red flags. I honestly would rather sign mike Vick and pick up a late round qb if Bridgewater isn't there at 4

    @louisville-slugger said:

    Sure he was serviceable in a couple games last year, but all I seen was a backup. I do think he earned a spot on the team, but if he is starting we really need to temper our expectations for next season. He is a hometown guy so I get why he is a fan favorite, but I am offering an unbiased opinion.

    let me preface this post by saying i didn't even know hoyer was 'home-town' until lombardi picked him up. i'm not from cleveland so there is no favoritism here. btw i think the 2 wins made him more than serviceable.

    does that mean he is the 2nd coming of tom brady? of course not. but you can't put that label on any ONE of these QBs coming into this draft. not one. so if you are just going for a guy to manage and throw all the passes when he needs to and be more than a statue, hoyer can prob do it just as good if not better than any of these guys. so why waste a pick at all, unless farmer sees a diamond in the rough with some 3rd rounder?

    at least hoyer has proven he deserves to be on an NFL roster which is more than we can say about weeden at this point (and we wasted a second first rounder for him), as well as any of these guys yet.

  • Louisville SluggerL Louisville Slugger

    I think Hoyer is a bit overvalued on this board. Sure he was serviceable in a couple games last year, but all I seen was a backup. I do think he earned a spot on the team, but if he is starting we really need to temper our expectations for next season. He is a hometown guy so I get why he is a fan favorite, but I am offering an unbiased opinion.

    If we draft manzeil before the 3rd I'll be devastated. There is too much talent in this draft to burn an early pick on a qb that has so many red flags. I honestly would rather sign mike Vick and pick up a late round qb if Bridgewater isn't there at 4

    @louisville-slugger said:

    I think Hoyer is a bit overvalued on this board. Sure he was serviceable in a couple games last year, but all I seen was a backup. I do think he earned a spot on the team, but if he is starting we really need to temper our expectations for next season. He is a hometown guy so I get why he is a fan favorite, but I am offering an unbiased opinion.

    If we draft manzeil before the 3rd I'll be devastated. There is too much talent in this draft to burn an early pick on a qb that has so many red flags. I honestly would rather sign mike Vick and pick up a late round qb if Bridgewater isn't there at 4

    You put down Hoyer and Manziel by calling one nothing more than a good back up and saying you'd rather have Vick than the other... while at the same time endorsing Bridgewater who plays for Louisville which is where you're from. Yep seems like an unbiased opinion lmao good one. I like Bridgewater too, puts passes in the right spots... his low interception % is proof of that. Lotta media guys say Manziel is a student of the game but Bridgewater plays like he is a student of the game. I was under the impression that he is outta of our reach without a trade up of some kind.

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