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  • Dansby is an excellent "cover" LB & when was the last time we had that. Add to that Whitner & his skills (which I believe surpass Wards'), desire to be in Cleveland, PLUS a WINNING mentality. Haslam, Farmer, & Pettine are changing the entire culture of this Browns Franchise. They're bringing in players that endorse the NEW culture & that's a good thing.

    Mike

  • I just hope they don't let Ben Tate leave without signing a contract sometime tonight... We need a guy like that...

    I also want to see a Grossman/Schaub signing to be our vet backup

    I like Hawkins, and hope our offer is good enough to steal him from Cincy, but I still need to see another WR - probably early in the draft

    I'm curious what we're looking at for a CB2 - I'm not exactly impressed with the Trufant/Skrine/McFadden competition for that spot

    I'd also like to see another ILB - what happened to talks with Moats? He at least knows the system

    Not sold on Gipson at FS, maybe bringing in a former Farmer signing in K.Lewis from KC or just waiting to see what happens with Slaughter in camp

    Even with all ^^^, they still will be looking to draft a QB - WR - RB - OG - LB - CB

    I'm waiting to see a little more spending before I get excited about this roster. And, I need to see Mack coming back or else that just adds a huge hole to our somewhat questionable OL

  • @cbus-brownie said:

    Everything here other than Hitner wanting to be here is bullshit, douchebag.

    Really?? So Jackson is more of a playmaker than Dansby?

    Just between me and you ... have you ever really watched a fucking NFL game?

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    Really?? So Jackson is more of a playmaker than Dansby?

    Just between me and you ... have you ever really watched a fucking NFL game?

    Zombo

    Ya football, what you call soccer right?

    Yes I do, And the stats back that opinion up. Hoping Dansby proves me wrong.

  • Zombo said:

    Really?? So Jackson is more of a playmaker than Dansby?

    Just between me and you ... have you ever really watched a fucking NFL game?

    Zombo

    Ya football, what you call soccer right?

    Yes I do, And the stats back that opinion up. Hoping Dansby proves me wrong.

    @cbus-brownie said:

    Ya football, what you call soccer right?

    Yes I do, And the stats back that opinion up. Hoping Dansby proves me wrong.

    Are we still doing this? What stats back up Jackson being *better* than Dansby?

  • @cbus-brownie said:

    Got his back? More like his dick in your mouth faggot..

    Your a funny one I'll give you that. Go be a jackass somewhere else. Little immature thirteen year old boys do not belong on the interwebs my friend. Now go back to spanking your pud in mamma's basement before grandpa gummers comes down and offers to suck you off and you begrudgingly accept.

    GuNNerGatSKy said:

    Your a funny one I'll give you that. Go be a jackass somewhere else. Little immature thirteen year old boys do not belong on the interwebs my friend. Now go back to spanking your pud in mamma's basement before grandpa gummers comes down and offers to suck you off and you begrudgingly accept.

    sounds like its coming from someone wih experience. No shame, lots were abused as teens. Did mommy make you serve her "the gun", gunner?

    Try saying grampie's gummie's with Mik's balls in your mouth..

  • Zombo said:

    Really?? So Jackson is more of a playmaker than Dansby?

    Just between me and you ... have you ever really watched a fucking NFL game?

    Zombo

    Ya football, what you call soccer right?

    Yes I do, And the stats back that opinion up. Hoping Dansby proves me wrong.

    @cbus-brownie said:

    Ya football, what you call soccer right?

    Yes I do, And the stats back that opinion up. Hoping Dansby proves me wrong.

    Dansby had 6.5 sacks and 4 ints

    Jackson had 1.5 sacks and 1 int

    What do you consider playmaking? Tackles seven yards downfield? Cause DQ was the master of that.

    Zombo

  • @cbus-brownie said:

    Ya football, what you call soccer right?

    Yes I do, And the stats back that opinion up. Hoping Dansby proves me wrong.

    Dansby had 6.5 sacks and 4 ints

    Jackson had 1.5 sacks and 1 int

    What do you consider playmaking? Tackles seven yards downfield? Cause DQ was the master of that.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    Dansby had 6.5 sacks and 4 ints

    Jackson had 1.5 sacks and 1 int

    What do you consider playmaking? Tackles seven yards downfield? Cause DQ was the master of that.

    Zombo[/quote

    Yep, and Dansby had 7 sacks and 2 Int's in the 4 years prior to last year. He didn't miss any time other than 2 games in those 4 years.

    DQ was a good Brown. I'll be rooting for Karlos but I'm not seeing it ending as a good move, time will tell.

    Done bitching back and forth with your fat ass, Ccunt..

  • I am still waiting for them to do something in Free agency that is a clear, positive upgrade. Yes, Dansby,Whitner and maybe Hawkins are incremental upgrades to DQ/TJ/Bess, positions from which we lost starting players. But Trufant and the TE are just roster depth. No real starter there. Even if we sign Grossman that is just replacing two below average backups QBs with one.

    A real #2 WR would have been nice. Getting Edelman if they do would be....OK....maybe. (as noted elsewhere: just a beneficiary of Tom Terrific?). Would Santonio Holmes/MIles Austin/Emmanuel Sanders be worth a shot? (or is that a Draft designated position)

    How about that #2 CB? One supposedly reliable source...ESPN...has Tarell Brown as the #1 best FA CB of all (including all those already signed elsewhere)

    How about OG and RB?

    Where is the influx of talent....not just the replacement of talent?

  • Steve Smith to the fucking Ratbirds. 3 year deal.

  • Zombo said:

    Dansby had 6.5 sacks and 4 ints

    Jackson had 1.5 sacks and 1 int

    What do you consider playmaking? Tackles seven yards downfield? Cause DQ was the master of that.

    Zombo[/quote

    Yep, and Dansby had 7 sacks and 2 Int's in the 4 years prior to last year. He didn't miss any time other than 2 games in those 4 years.

    DQ was a good Brown. I'll be rooting for Karlos but I'm not seeing it ending as a good move, time will tell.

    Done bitching back and forth with your fat ass, Ccunt..

    @cbus-brownie said:

    Zombo said:

    Dansby had 6.5 sacks and 4 ints

    Jackson had 1.5 sacks and 1 int

    What do you consider playmaking? Tackles seven yards downfield? Cause DQ was the master of that.

    Zombo[/quote

    Yep, and Dansby had 7 sacks and 2 Int's in the 4 years prior to last year. He didn't miss any time other than 2 games in those 4 years.

    DQ was a good Brown. I'll be rooting for Karlos but I'm not seeing it ending as a good move, time will tell.

    Done bitching back and forth with your fat ass, Ccunt..

    If you're really done, than just quit typing and embarrassing yourself?

    Zombo

    --does this font make my ass look fat?

  • If nothing else, the players that they've been picking up all seem to have great attitudes and seem like they WANT to win in Cleveland. It may take some time to complete the overhaul of the losers for the winners, but if everyone is on the same page and the team's identity can be established, we're miles ahead of where we've seen this team for the last decade and a half.

    I love the focus Farmer and his crew seem to have and as long as their talent evaluation can be strong enough, things will be turning around through the next few seasons.

  • I am still waiting for them to do something in Free agency that is a clear, positive upgrade. Yes, Dansby,Whitner and maybe Hawkins are incremental upgrades to DQ/TJ/Bess, positions from which we lost starting players. But Trufant and the TE are just roster depth. No real starter there. Even if we sign Grossman that is just replacing two below average backups QBs with one.

    A real #2 WR would have been nice. Getting Edelman if they do would be....OK....maybe. (as noted elsewhere: just a beneficiary of Tom Terrific?). Would Santonio Holmes/MIles Austin/Emmanuel Sanders be worth a shot? (or is that a Draft designated position)

    How about that #2 CB? One supposedly reliable source...ESPN...has Tarell Brown as the #1 best FA CB of all (including all those already signed elsewhere)

    How about OG and RB?

    Where is the influx of talent....not just the replacement of talent?

    @the-gipper said:

    I am still waiting for them to do something in Free agency that is a clear, positive upgrade. Yes, Dansby,Whitner and maybe Hawkins are incremental upgrades to DQ/TJ/Bess, positions from which we lost starting players. But Trufant and the TE are just roster depth. No real starter there. Even if we sign Grossman that is just replacing two below average backups QBs with one.

    A real #2 WR would have been nice. Getting Edelman if they do would be....OK....maybe. (as noted elsewhere: just a beneficiary of Tom Terrific?). Would Santonio Holmes/MIles Austin/Emmanuel Sanders be worth a shot? (or is that a Draft designated position)

    How about that #2 CB? One supposedly reliable source...ESPN...has Tarell Brown as the #1 best FA CB of all (including all those already signed elsewhere)

    How about OG and RB?

    Where is the influx of talent....not just the replacement of talent?

    Look for us to draft Xavier su'a-filo (my favorite OG) and a RB 😉

    I would like to see us fill some positions in FA though too.

  • Namely CB^

  • Namely CB^

    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    Namely CB^

    Anyone have some options at CB that could be realistic? Or is the draft a better place to fill this position?

  • Gilbert would be a great pick in the 20's for DB

  • after a few days to let the FA digest a bit I would say we made we slightly upward moves. What makes me wonder is why the 9'ers didnt try to retain whitner? Seems they didn't try very hard to keep him.

  • after a few days to let the FA digest a bit I would say we made we slightly upward moves. What makes me wonder is why the 9'ers didnt try to retain whitner? Seems they didn't try very hard to keep him.

    @erie-dawg said:

    after a few days to let the FA digest a bit I would say we made we slightly upward moves. What makes me wonder is why the 9'ers didnt try to retain Dansby? Seems they didn't try very hard to keep him.

    We dont know if they for sure didnt offer him any thing. he says he wanted to come here from the start.

  • @erie-dawg said:

    after a few days to let the FA digest a bit I would say we made we slightly upward moves. What makes me wonder is why the 9'ers didnt try to retain Dansby? Seems they didn't try very hard to keep him.

    We dont know if they for sure didnt offer him any thing. he says he wanted to come here from the start.

    @cambridgeho said:

    We dont know if they for sure didnt offer him any thing. he says he wanted to come here from the start.

    Yes but do you just let a good player walk?

    After a quick search it appears the 49'ers we not willing to pay him over 4 mill per year.

  • They had a back up plan with Bethea from the Colts.

  • Gilbert would be a great pick in the 20's for DB

    @cambridgeho said:

    Gilbert would be a great pick in the 20's for DB

    I concur.