Wait for WR until the 3rd round

miktoxic

XxDaBuckeyexX said:
I think its very plausible we end up with 3 of the first 26.

why draft both mack and shazier though?

Tiott

I love Dontae Johnson too

miktoxic

if we wait until the 6th round to address CB i'll fucking throw a beer through my window.

Flyin J

@miktoxic said:
why draft both mack and shazier though?

I already said I wouldnt draft Shazier and that I doubt we pick a OLB at 4. Mack is still a possibility because he can play everywhere. My bet is we trade down if Mack or Clowney is available.

miktoxic

XxDaBuckeyexX said:
I already said I wouldnt draft Shazier and that I doubt we pick a OLB at 4. Mack is still a possibility because he can play everywhere. My bet is we trade down if Mack or Clowney is available.

no i was talking to the OP.

all these different mocks from different sites, with different scenarios is all just crazy.

when it happens, it happens.

Tim Couch Pulls Out

XxDaBuckeyexX said:
I think its very plausible we end up with 3 of the first 26.

I'd love to know why or how.

Flyin J

How much realistically, do you think it would cost to move from 35 to 22 or so? Our extra third and fourth would probably do it....

Flyin J

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:
I'd love to know why or how.

cant say why, depends on who theyre targeting. Just saying it could happen, easily.

Tim Couch Pulls Out

XxDaBuckeyexX said:
cant say why, depends on who theyre targeting. Just saying it could happen, easily.

I do not think "easily" means what you think it means.

Flyin J

Depends on how youre using it. All im saying is that its far from impossible. Improbable, maybe....

Tim Couch Pulls Out

XxDaBuckeyexX said:
Depends on how youre using it. All im saying is that its far from impossible. Improbable, maybe....

It's certainly possible, just unlikely. Thanks to Dan Snyder, the going price of first round picks is through the roof.

Bummie

On my phone so quoting all posts im responding to is a no go. For the first 3 rounders...the Pats are a team, for example, who love to trade down. Its something you expect every year. From 35 to 29 would likely cost our 3rd, maybe our 5th. Theres a point system for picks. Look one up if you havent seen one. Pretty interesting. Walterfootball has one thats easy to read. Low first rounders and high second rounders are not far off in value.

I saw one of you mention mocks, hows theres a ton of them...its true, and none matter, but I like looking at all 7 rounds worth of prospects and debating picks for each. Rather than a thread dedicated to one player or position, I like a full team approach. A mock brings that out.

Why take Mack and Shazier? Mack is obvious...the most sacks by a single player last year was 5.5 - pretty sad. Shazier is a transition pick. I want him beside Dansby. He ran a 4.36 40 at his pro day, has a 42in vertical, is good in coverage and can tackle. The only knock on him is size. You can build size once you're paid to train year around. You cant, though, teach the speed that he has. Even without size, I start him beside Dansby. In 2 years with size and experience in our scheme, he could be a top 5 ILB. Heck, I would downgrade the QB pick to pick 35 to land Mack and Shazier with no trade up.

Bummie

And after all that, ive changed my approach a bit. I want Gilber to start across from Haden. I think the improvement on D from 2 solid corners would be greater than the improvement from adding Mack at OLB. Plus, you're more likely to find an solid OLB in future drafts than to find a corner who can play press man. Like this draft...all I see after Gilbert are zone CBs that you hope can transition to a solid man CB. Plus, Gilbers 6ft, height we need.

So, would you pass on Watkins and Mack to trade down (if its there) to 8 or 10 and grab Gilbert, then Shazier at 26 (for above explanation), QB at 35, then Hyde or a WR with the second 2nd round pick (trade up in 2nd if needed to land our guy)?

hoorta

XxDaBuckeyexX said:
How much realistically, do you think it would cost to move from 35 to 22 or so? Our extra third and fourth would probably do it....

Brady Quinn = our second, and next year's first. That's what it cost to move up that high. That was a dumb trade. OTOH, realistically, it's our second, top third and next years second. Still interested?

Rooster Dick

Typical browns board thread... a draft that doesn't consist of any STUD player. All will be duds. Imagine that.

Flyin J

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:
It's certainly possible, just unlikely. Thanks to Dan Snyder, the going price of first round picks is through the roof.

not really, word is, everyone wants to trade down this year. And the price of the #22 pick would be nothing compared to the #2 pick and the highly rated RG3. There was a bidding war for that pick, which is why the price skyrocketed.

Flyin J

@hoorta said:

Brady Quinn = our second, and next year's first. That's what it cost to move up that high. That was a dumb trade. OTOH, realistically, it's our second, top third and next years second. Still interested?

that was a dumb trade...our second, top third and next years third.

The Gipper

@miktoxic said:
why draft both mack and shazier though?

Possibly because ILB is our weakest position? Quality run stuffers and TE/slot receiver coverage is our biggest need.

It would not break my heart to see them do this honestly.

The Gipper

XxDaBuckeyexX said:
How much realistically, do you think it would cost to move from 35 to 22 or so? Our extra third and fourth would probably do it....

OK, well, gopher it Browns.

The Gipper

@rooster-dick said:
Typical browns board thread... a draft that doesn't consist of any STUD player. All will be duds. Imagine that.

Well, most analysts say that Clowney is the biggest stud to come around on defense in years.....but beyond him perhaps you are right there are no 100+ grade studs, but most say this is a deep draft in overall talent.

So, it may not be a good year for that one power stud....but it may be a good year to pick a number of quality players.