Jonathan Paul Manziel
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If M. Vick could be contain in the NFL, JF will certainly be too.
The odds are stacked against JF like it or not. He's not NFL ready like A. Luck and being drafted at 4 would require him to START right away.
Why do we have to draft a QB THIS Year? The notion that we must have a complete team AFTER this draft is pure bullchit. A superbowl team take time to build.
If M. Vick could be contain in the NFL, JF will certainly be too.
The odds are stacked against JF like it or not. He's not NFL ready like A. Luck and being drafted at 4 would require him to START right away.
Why do we have to draft a QB THIS Year? The notion that we must have a complete team AFTER this draft is pure bullchit. A superbowl team take time to build.
That expectation was set after we fired a hometown coach who had shown some promise after only 1 year.
The attitude is win and win now. There is no other option. Haslam mde that very clear with his actions. Its put up or shut up. Everyone is on a one year trial from here on out
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If M. Vick could be contain in the NFL, JF will certainly be too.
The odds are stacked against JF like it or not. He's not NFL ready like A. Luck and being drafted at 4 would require him to START right away.
Why do we have to draft a QB THIS Year? The notion that we must have a complete team AFTER this draft is pure bullchit. A superbowl team take time to build.
That expectation was set after we fired a hometown coach who had shown some promise after only 1 year.
The attitude is win and win now. There is no other option. Haslam mde that very clear with his actions. Its put up or shut up. Everyone is on a one year trial from here on out
That expectation was set after we fired a hometown coach who had shown some promise after only 1 year.
The attitude is win and win now. There is no other option. Haslam mde that very clear with his actions. Its put up or shut up. Everyone is on a one year trial from here on out
And that is an AWFUL way to run a business.
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I don't understand what amazing talent people see in Johnny Douchebag. What have you seen on the field that is just so much better than other QBs?/
Yeah, he runs around and buys time. Yeah, he has "moxy" (he's an arrogant prick). What else exactly?
Mike Evans made JF
How about the way he motivates and leads his teammates during adversity?
How about when Evans loses his cool on the regular, Johnny grabs him by the facemask, puts him in his place, gives him some wise words, and they then make a huge play
How about him having the highest completion percentage FROM THE POCKET of all the other top QB's
How about his ability to anticipate defenders, bait them, and make them look like idiots on the regular.
How about his ability to run head first into a 245lb linbacker and push him back 5 yds (cant do that in the nfl? im pretty sure the LBs are the same size)
How about him having the highest completion percentage on passes of 40 yds or more?
How about him breaking almost every offensive record known to man?
How about him being a little dude, yet repeatedly taking huge hits and get right back up only to throw rediculous TD passes
How about him obliterating Alabama defenses that have many future NFL starters?
How about him being able to make all the NFL throws?
How about him only being 21 years old and already showing fast improvement in the pocket after only 1 year?
I could go on.. really
How about the way he motivates and leads his teammates during adversity?
How about when Evans loses his cool on the regu'ar, Johnny grabs him by the facemask, puts him in his place, gives him some wise words, and they then make a huge play
How about him having the highest completion percentage FROM THE POCKET of all the other top QB's
How about his ability to anticipate defenders, bait them, and make them look like idiots on the regular.
How about his ability to run head first into a 245lb linbacker and push him back 5 yds (cant do that in the nfl? im pretty sure the LBs are the same size)
How about him having the highest completion percentage on passes of 40 yds or more?
How about him breaking almost every offense record known to man?
How about him being a little dude, yet repeatedly take huge hits and get right back up only to throw rediculous TD passes
How about him obliterating Alabama defenses that have many futire NFL starters?
How about him being able to make all the NFL throws?
How about him only being 21 years old and already showing fast improvement in the pocket after only 1 year?
I could go on.. really
You make a good argument, I am coming around.
Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12 -
Again, I don't really give a damn who they get.....Johnny Football, Johnny Yuma, Johnny Reb, Johnny B Goode, Johnny Cash, Johnny Depp, Johnny Galecki, Johnny Crapper....as long as he can play and win.
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XxDaBuckeyexX said:
^that means Gipper is coming around : )
I also don't care if their name is Blake Bortles, or Blake Griffin, or Blake Edwards
And I don't care if their name is Derek Carr, or Derek and the Dominoes, or Derek Jeter, or Derek Jacobi, or Derek Anderson (well maybe I do care about that last one....been there, done that)
And I don't care if their name is Teddy Bridegwater, or Teddy Roosevelt, or Teddy Kennedy, or Teddy Williams, or Teddy Nugent, or Teddy Turner, or Ted Koppel, or Ted Ginn, or Ted Kluszewski.
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How about the way he motivates and leads his teammates during adversity?
How about when Evans loses his cool on the regu'ar, Johnny grabs him by the facemask, puts him in his place, gives him some wise words, and they then make a huge play
How about him having the highest completion percentage FROM THE POCKET of all the other top QB's
How about his ability to anticipate defenders, bait them, and make them look like idiots on the regular.
How about his ability to run head first into a 245lb linbacker and push him back 5 yds (cant do that in the nfl? im pretty sure the LBs are the same size)
How about him having the highest completion percentage on passes of 40 yds or more?
How about him breaking almost every offense record known to man?
How about him being a little dude, yet repeatedly take huge hits and get right back up only to throw rediculous TD passes
How about him obliterating Alabama defenses that have many futire NFL starters?
How about him being able to make all the NFL throws?
How about him only being 21 years old and already showing fast improvement in the pocket after only 1 year?
I could go on.. really
You make a good argument, I am coming around.
A good majority of that crap was fan boi blind love.You make a good argument, I am coming around.
Just as one example, the ability to push back linebackers? Lmao....the shrimp is gonna out muscle a man that has 50 lbs on him......please.
Fan boi honks only see what they wanna see.
On a positive note, the does throw a nice left handed pass....
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Tim Tebow?
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I'm sticking by an earlier statement that if we take Johnny Manziel at #4, it is because Haslam pulls the owner card and does what he has promised all he wouldn't do and that is pull rank over the guys he hired to run the team. I'm sure Farmer does like Manziel, but I don't think he likes him at #4 and I don't even think he is Farmers highest rated QB.
Ruining threads since 1897. -
If Manziel was 2 inches taller hed be the unanimous first pick. If Manziel was black he'd be the unanimous first pick. Let that sink in for a second.
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If Manziel was 2 inches taller hed be the unanimous first pick. If Manziel was black he'd be the unanimous first pick. Let that sink in for a second.
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
If Manziel was 2 inches taller hed be the unanimous first pick. If Manziel was black he'd be the unanimous first pick. Let that sink in for a second.
maybe the 2 inches taller part. i'd say 3-4 inches and maybe 25 more pounds.
the thought that if he were black he'd be the #1 pick is absurd.
2 days away and people are fucking going crazy.
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If Manziel was 2 inches taller hed be the unanimous first pick. If Manziel was black he'd be the unanimous first pick. Let that sink in for a second.
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
If Manziel was 2 inches taller hed be the unanimous first pick. If Manziel was black he'd be the unanimous first pick. Let that sink in for a second.
Well....I think if..
Wes welker
Zach Thomas
Jordan Shipley
Chris Borland
Weren't white they'd been taken higher. I don't get that feeling about Manziel. I think his height yes and his style of play do effect people wearyness.
That is a problem I have seen all my life that no one seems to care about, but for Johnny Football, Nah. I'd like to see us take him, just not at #4.
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A good majority of that crap was fan boi blind love.You make a good argument, I am coming around.
Just as one example, the ability to push back linebackers? Lmao....the shrimp is gonna out muscle a man that has 50 lbs on him......please.
Fan boi honks only see what they wanna see.
On a positive note, the does throw a nice left handed pass....
A good majority of that crap was fan boi blind love.
Just as one example, the ability to push back linebackers? Lmao....the shrimp is gonna out muscle a man that has 50 lbs on him......please.
Fan boi honks only see what they wanna see.
On a positive note, the does throw a nice left handed pass....
He ran over many duke defenders much larger than him.. thanks
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duke? football? really?
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XxDaBuckeyexX said:
If Manziel was 2 inches taller hed be the unanimous first pick. If Manziel was black he'd be the unanimous first pick. Let that sink in for a second.
Well....I think if..
Wes welker
Zach Thomas
Jordan Shipley
Chris Borland
Weren't white they'd been taken higher. I don't get that feeling about Manziel. I think his height yes and his style of play do effect people wearyness.
That is a problem I have seen all my life that no one seems to care about, but for Johnny Football, Nah. I'd like to see us take him, just not at #4.
Well....I think if..
Wes welker
Zach Thomas
Jordan Shipley
Chris Borland
Weren't white they'd been taken higher. I don't get that feeling about Manziel. I think his height yes and his style of play do effect people wearyness.
That is a problem I have seen all my life that no one seems to care about, but for Johnny Football, Nah. I'd like to see us take him, just not at #4.
Shipley sucks that's why he didn't go higher.
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XxDaBuckeyexX said:
If Manziel was 2 inches taller hed be the unanimous first pick. If Manziel was black he'd be the unanimous first pick. Let that sink in for a second.
maybe the 2 inches taller part. i'd say 3-4 inches and maybe 25 more pounds.
the thought that if he were black he'd be the #1 pick is absurd.
2 days away and people are fucking going crazy.
maybe the 2 inches taller part. i'd say 3-4 inches and maybe 25 more pounds.
the thought that if he were black he'd be the #1 pick is absurd.
2 days away and people are fucking going crazy.
Perfect assessment. If you put Manziel in Bortles body the only argument about QB's this off season would be if he would put up better numbers than Luck did his rookie year.
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Tomorrow's headline
Glazer: Browns do 360......it WILL be Manziel with the 4the pick!!
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