Jonathan Paul Manziel
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I love how polarizing Johnny Douchebag is. You either love him, or hate him.
More of us hate him, but those that love him are louder about it.
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We can only hope. Im begging, and pleading for us to take him at 4.. cant fathom us passing on him if he's there.
If we pass.. it will haunt us... like everything else does
We can only hope. Im begging, and pleading for us to take him at 4.. cant fathom us passing on him if he's there.
If we pass.. it will haunt us... like everything else does.
Agreed. I think he will be an outstanding QB.
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If Clowney, Mack and Watkins are all gone by 4 and you can't trade down sure take him or whichever QB you like the best there at 4.
I'd hate to pass on Watkins or Mack though. They are so much better than the QB prospects, in my e-pinion.
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I love how polarizing Johnny Douchebag is. You either love him, or hate him.
More of us hate him, but those that love him are louder about it.
I love how polarizing Johnny Douchebag is. You either love him, or hate him.
More of us hate him, but those that love him are louder about it.
He is Hillary Clinton
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I don't understand what amazing talent people see in Johnny Douchebag. What have you seen on the field that is just so much better than other QBs?/
Yeah, he runs around and buys time. Yeah, he has "moxy" (he's an arrogant prick). What else exactly?
Mike Evans made JF
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I don't understand what amazing talent people see in Johnny Douchebag. What have you seen on the field that is just so much better than other QBs?/
Yeah, he runs around and buys time. Yeah, he has "moxy" (he's an arrogant prick). What else exactly?
Mike Evans made JF
I don't understand what amazing talent people see in Johnny Douchebag. What have you seen on the field that is just so much better than other QBs?/
Yeah, he runs around and buys time. Yeah, he has "moxy" (he's an arrogant prick). What else exactly?
Mike Evans made JF
I think the fact that he finds ways to win football games. I see why people like him, I am on the fence about him. I think he will either be a big time bust or big time star, wont be any middle ground with him.
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@mike-h said:
Luckily, Farmer gets to make the decision and not you.
People are harping on the wrong stuff. Manziel has the talent to be a good NFL QB. That's something Cleveland hasn't had in forever.
But let's draft Derek Carr or Garoppolo instead -- lol. That logic will continue to see this team in the basement of the AFCN.
Farmer needa to play his draft board the way he has the players ranked for the most part. If Manziel is #20 on your board picking him at 4 would be a bad move in my opinion. If he was ranked something like 6 or 7 on your board then drafting him a few slots early isnt that a big a deal.
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Who would you rather have woody? Teddy spaghetti, the noodle man who can't throw a spiral or hit his own receiver when no one is playing defense? No thanks.
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So you are on record is claiming Johnny football (should we draft him) will be the best quarterback since the Browns returned to the league.@mike-h said:
Luckily, Farmer gets to make the decision and not you.
People are harping on the wrong stuff. Manziel has the talent to be a good NFL QB. That's something Cleveland hasn't had in forever.
But let's draft Derek Carr or Garoppolo instead -- lol. That logic will continue to see this team in the basement of the AFCN.
Further that if we don't take him we will be relegated to the cellar for many more years.
Strong words Mike.
WSS
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So you are on record is claiming Johnny football (should we draft him) will be the best quarterback since the Browns returned to the league.@mike-h said:
Luckily, Farmer gets to make the decision and not you.
People are harping on the wrong stuff. Manziel has the talent to be a good NFL QB. That's something Cleveland hasn't had in forever.
But let's draft Derek Carr or Garoppolo instead -- lol. That logic will continue to see this team in the basement of the AFCN.
Further that if we don't take him we will be relegated to the cellar for many more years.
Strong words Mike.
WSS
So you are on record is claiming Johnny football (should we draft him) will be the best quarterback since the Browns returned to the league.
Further that if we don't take him we will be relegated to the cellar for many more years.
Strong words Mike.
WSS
It's pretty sad that "good NFL QB" means "best quarterback since the Browns returned to the league".
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I love how polarizing Johnny Douchebag is. You either love him, or hate him.
More of us hate him, but those that love him are louder about it.
He is Hillary Clinton
He is Hillary Clinton
So does that make Brandon Weeden Sarah Palin ......always screwing things up ?

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Who would you rather have woody? Teddy spaghetti, the noodle man who can't throw a spiral or hit his own receiver when no one is playing defense? No thanks.
Who would you rather have woody? Teddy spaghetti, the noodle man who can't throw a spiral or hit his own receiver when no one is playing defense? No thanks.
I don't want any QB at 4. But yeah, I'd rather have Teddy than Johnny Douchebag.
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So you are on record is claiming Johnny football (should we draft him) will be the best quarterback since the Browns returned to the league.
Further that if we don't take him we will be relegated to the cellar for many more years.
Strong words Mike.
WSS
It's pretty sad that "good NFL QB" means "best quarterback since the Browns returned to the league".
It's pretty sad that "good NFL QB" means "best quarterback since the Browns returned to the league".
if the bar is Couch/Holcomb/Anderson...it's sad but true.
i'd be ok w JF at 26. or BB. or DC. but none at 4.
anyone ie evans/gilbert/robinson/mathews > the QBs.
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not in recent history will there be sooooo many people to each soooo much shit when all the dust has cleared although it might take a couple of years. (either pro or con JF).
the guy isn't even on a team yet (let alone the browns) and everyone is ready to kill each other.
it must be the '666' tattooed underneath his hairline.
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This time next week, most of us will finally be able to discuss who we picked, while a few of us will still complain about Johnny Scramble. At least it will finally be over one way or the other. I don't want JS, but if we pick him I hope he succeeds because I hate saying I told you so (but will).
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