Jonathan Paul Manziel

D Bone

@mike-h said:
Get ready for two years at least of nothing but Manziel talk.

2 years is about right. That's as long as he'll be relevant......... Naaaaaa, too long.

PoeticG

Derek Carr will be twice the QB Manziel could ever dream to be! 🥷

DownSouthKC

If Clowney, Mack and Watkins are all gone by 4 and you can't trade down sure take him or whichever QB you like the best there at 4.

I'd hate to pass on Watkins or Mack though. They are so much better than the QB prospects, in my e-pinion.

choco

Cossell says the rams take him at 2....

Casserly says there's no way we take him till possibly 26.

That's just today.

Nothing to see here....

Tim Couch Pulls Out

Derek Carr will throw twice the interceptions as Manziel could ever dream of throwing.

@poeticg said:
Derek Carr will be twice the QB Manziel could ever dream to be! 🥷

Harry Buffalo

@mld-woody said:

I love how polarizing Johnny Douchebag is. You either love him, or hate him.

More of us hate him, but those that love him are louder about it.

He is Hillary Clinton

MLD Woody

I don't understand what amazing talent people see in Johnny Douchebag. What have you seen on the field that is just so much better than other QBs?/

Yeah, he runs around and buys time. Yeah, he has "moxy" (he's an arrogant prick). What else exactly?

Mike Evans made JF

runyon27

@mld-woody said:

I don't understand what amazing talent people see in Johnny Douchebag. What have you seen on the field that is just so much better than other QBs?/

Yeah, he runs around and buys time. Yeah, he has "moxy" (he's an arrogant prick). What else exactly?

Mike Evans made JF

I think the fact that he finds ways to win football games. I see why people like him, I am on the fence about him. I think he will either be a big time bust or big time star, wont be any middle ground with him.

runyon27

@mike-h said:

Luckily, Farmer gets to make the decision and not you.

People are harping on the wrong stuff. Manziel has the talent to be a good NFL QB. That's something Cleveland hasn't had in forever.

But let's draft Derek Carr or Garoppolo instead -- lol. That logic will continue to see this team in the basement of the AFCN.

Farmer needa to play his draft board the way he has the players ranked for the most part. If Manziel is #20 on your board picking him at 4 would be a bad move in my opinion. If he was ranked something like 6 or 7 on your board then drafting him a few slots early isnt that a big a deal.

The Cysko Kid

Who would you rather have woody? Teddy spaghetti, the noodle man who can't throw a spiral or hit his own receiver when no one is playing defense? No thanks.

Westside Steve

@mike-h said:

Luckily, Farmer gets to make the decision and not you.

People are harping on the wrong stuff. Manziel has the talent to be a good NFL QB. That's something Cleveland hasn't had in forever.

But let's draft Derek Carr or Garoppolo instead -- lol. That logic will continue to see this team in the basement of the AFCN.

So you are on record is claiming Johnny football (should we draft him) will be the best quarterback since the Browns returned to the league.

Further that if we don't take him we will be relegated to the cellar for many more years.

Strong words Mike.

WSS

Tim Couch Pulls Out

@westside-steve said:

So you are on record is claiming Johnny football (should we draft him) will be the best quarterback since the Browns returned to the league.

Further that if we don't take him we will be relegated to the cellar for many more years.

Strong words Mike.

WSS

It's pretty sad that "good NFL QB" means "best quarterback since the Browns returned to the league".

darren15

@harry-buffalo said:
He is Hillary Clinton

So does that make Brandon Weeden Sarah Palin ......always screwing things up ?

MLD Woody

@the-cysko-kid said:
Who would you rather have woody? Teddy spaghetti, the noodle man who can't throw a spiral or hit his own receiver when no one is playing defense? No thanks.

I don't want any QB at 4. But yeah, I'd rather have Teddy than Johnny Douchebag.

sisky fringo

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

It's pretty sad that "good NFL QB" means "best quarterback since the Browns returned to the league".

if the bar is Couch/Holcomb/Anderson...it's sad but true.

i'd be ok w JF at 26. or BB. or DC. but none at 4.

anyone ie evans/gilbert/robinson/mathews > the QBs.

miktoxic

not in recent history will there be sooooo many people to each soooo much shit when all the dust has cleared although it might take a couple of years. (either pro or con JF).

the guy isn't even on a team yet (let alone the browns) and everyone is ready to kill each other.

it must be the '666' tattooed underneath his hairline.

D Bone

This time next week, most of us will finally be able to discuss who we picked, while a few of us will still complain about Johnny Scramble. At least it will finally be over one way or the other. I don't want JS, but if we pick him I hope he succeeds because I hate saying I told you so (but will).

Westside Steve

@mike-h said:

People read what they want to apparently.

I think he's a lot better than most here want to give him credit for, for whatever motive.

I like Blake B and Manziel, I'm pretty sure that's understood by now.

I don't see how else I could have read it. But I'm not picking on you sir. Just getting your take. There must have been some thing recently to change your mind since, if I'm not mistaken you started out in the Bridgewater camp.

WSS

Loyalty

If we take Manziel it will make it almost impossible for Hoyer to be the starter... While many of us would understand the concept of sitting Manziel for a year - I can't say the same for Joe Blow casual fan.

That said... if we take a QB at #4 I think you need to start him regardless of who it is (Bortles, Manziel, Carr, etc) out of principle. Otherwise it is a waste of a pick on an immediate starter.

Harry Buffalo

If we see Manziel get picked at #4, it is going to be because Haslam does what he has promised not to do and that is pull rank on the guy he hired to run the team.