Jonathan Paul Manziel
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They're in a great position really... I'm sure Hoyer will "win" the job just long enough to not throw Johnny to the wolves... first three games then a bye week and he will start week 6
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Manziel coming out and beating the Steelers in Pittsburgh week 1 is a nice story and all but Lebeu losing to rookie QB's doesn't happen let alone their first game ever.
"All Truth Passes Through Three stages. First, It Is Ridiculed, Second It Is Violently Opposed, And Third, It Is Accepted As Self-Evident" ~Arthur Schopenhauer -
Man this thread merge mess makes for some interesting reading...
New here as well, I can tell you that the number of Brown's fans in Texas has exploded in the last 12 hours.
First, let's get this straight... with one exception, none of you Johnny-Football-come-latelys are Browns fans.
You weren't Wednesday...
After a week you will not be heard from again until training camp opens...
And had any of 18 other NFL teams deemed your boy worthy enough, you would not be here now.
We Browns fans would be...
The one exception was a noob named H-Town Brown. In his very first post he introduced himself as a Manziel fan and then asked the forum to help him get to know the Browns. THAT is a new Browns fan in the making.
MikeHole said:
No, even when wrong you have to spin it to be right, somehow.
It's fascinating
Exactly what the fuck was he spinning? I swear your head is so far up your MikeHole the fumes have made you delusional.
MikeHole said:
Farmer said in December he wanted Manziel--it was reported last night, so claiming it was Haslams pick, even after Haslam said he wouldn't interfere (which the Anti-Manziel clan used to support their arguments that the Browns would pass on Manziel) is just denial.
Denial ain't jus a river in Egypt kids.
Drunk? Stoned? Both? Or just more fumes? Your post makes no sense, Mr. PFWA. That we drafted Manziel is now a fact. No one is denying it.
But yes, I hoped that the Haslam statement put to rest the hope that JM was coming to Cleveland... not afraid to admit it.
Talk about spin... such an air of confidence now. The likes of which we did not see for 18 picks, or roughly 2 hours of Round 1. Never a doubt... right, MikeHole? LOL...
i honestly don't know if i can handle the stupidity of NFL fans. I really don't... Yes, GOAT is his ceiling. That's what some call, an "opinion". In this thread I've posted reasons I think he's that special.
If you can't handle it, then leave with our stupid, collective blessings... You will not be missed.
But if you stay, chew on this a while and I'll be happy to discuss it with you.
http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=28821&view=findpost&p=404221
You have a look too, MikeHole, but I warn you it has a lot of words in it and some things called t h o u g h t s.
While I genuinely believe that JM will not see the field Week 1 except for warm-ups... I'll go further than that.When JF throws the first TD pass against Pittsburgh in week 1, you'll all be doing the cash money sign with him.
Don't act like you won't.
If I ever do that fucking stupid move, TC, then I will send you a certified check for $10,000. You have my word on it...
I can't wait for Tour's response to this one.
Did I disappoint?
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Is Manziel already the anointed starter? please share what you think. A battle. Hoyer's job to lose. Or, Manziel is the top dog. . .
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Manziel will start day 1.
Hoyer is not even cleared for contact.
The throngs will call for Johnny, and Johnny they will get... or they'll tear the fucking stadium down.
You don't draft Elvis Presley in his prime and sit him behind Justin 'Beaver'.
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They should have just drafted Watkins, Carr and Hyde.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
At this point, Hoyer is # 1. Nfl veteran, and sure he's recovering from a torn ACL, but experience of the game, the speed, ability to read a defense, familiarity with players all count for something. I saw one ridiculous post that Manziel is the starter immediately cause he has more talent. I guess knowing the playbook isn't important.
Hell, at this point, I'd even given Vince Young the nod on 2nd string. Former rookie of the year, 2 time pro bowler, 60+ win percentage.
As a fanbase, and as a coaching staff, I pray there is an extreme level of patience. But somehow ... I seriously doubt it will happen.
"I'm low man on the totem pole." = Johnny Manziel
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Oh god... months now of JF being football Jesus
Hoyer will start.
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I don't think we will see Manziel start against the Steelers. I'd give him some time to learn the NFL system. I wouldn't want him to go on the disabled list after one game.
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Vince Young can barely grasp a pen to write his name, much less an NFL offense. I'd be surprised if he even makes the roster.
I don't know much about Hoyer, but I'd be surprised if Johnny didn't start. He is a competitor -- and I don't think you trade up for a guy in the first to sit him.
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Every defense we play against is going to be going after him. His celebrity is probably not well liked by other teams. I would let him get some snaps, but not start initially no matter how quick he learns.
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DieHard has had that JF dick in his mouth for awhile now, but even he is realistic about JF starting lol. Good to see
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Vince Young can barely grasp a pen to write his name, much less an NFL offense. I'd be surprised if he even makes the roster.
I don't know much about Hoyer, but I'd be surprised if Johnny didn't start. He is a competitor -- and I don't think you trade up for a guy in the first to sit him.
Vince Young can barely grasp a pen to write his name, much less an NFL offense. I'd be surprised if he even makes the roster.
This^
The guy got beat out by Seneca Wallace and Scott Tolzien for christ sakes.
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I don't know who Vontae Mack is and I swear to God if you ruined Draft Day for me, I will never take your opinion seriously ever again POG.
Oh, wait... I already don't.
Vontae Mack was the fictional player the Browns chose with the #1 overall pick in the movie Draft Day. It is odd because he was a LB with very much the same attributes as the real Khalil Mack (except the fictional guy played for Ohio St.)
Vontae Mack was the *************SPOILER************ It is odd because he was a LB with very much the same attributes as the real Khalil Mack (except the fictional guy played for Ohio St.)
what a fucking tool.
i can't think of anyone I hate more than a Spoiler.
...except maybe an intentional spoiler.
he wasn't asking gip.
you fucking dick.
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Whats with all the homosexual fantasies going on? I mean, I don't care, whatever,... your life your choice,... kind of a weird thing to be so extroverted about though.
Johnny will start. Do you guys really think he needs a year to learn the system when Vince Young (6) was signed? Me guessing the system is written in crayon.
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Wouldn't be surprised if Manziel wins out in camp and is the week 1 starter. He really doesn't have much competition...
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We're going to talk all about another QB controversy until September. My moneys still on Hoyer starting day 1 though.
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There is NO way that HOYER will start the season.
Just as when Colt McCoy clearly beat Weeden for grasp of the offense and smarter decision making abilities, Hoyer will be pushed aside to make way for Manziel.
...and really I could give a fuck anymore. Let Manziel start and see if the kid can hack it in the pros. They start early now. Luck, RG3, Wilson.. for pete's sake Weeden even started after being sacked by the American Flag.
If all these can start it's nearly impossible to sit Johnny Football. The F.O. will be eaten alive the first game they lose and Mr. Football is on the sidelines. He'll start week 2 at the latest.
You might as well get used to it, Manziel is the Guy now. Sorry Hoyer about your bad luck- you shouldn't have gotten injured.
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