TEAM AMERICA: World Cup
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Damn straight. Men should not touch other men. If you absolutely have to, make sure it's a handshake. With gloves on, preferably.
Thank god real american men play a sport where they dress up in spandex, wear a load of padding and wait for one man to reach under another man's ass and grab a ball before running for 20 seconds and then having a break.
Perspective is everything.
You mad?
You mad?
Nope, just pointing out the perspective thing. I'm aware that in america it's seen as a girly sport. Not a big deal to me, because I (and the rest of the world) know otherwise.
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Well, they say a pictures tells a thousand words:
Gay as hell.
Well, they say a pictures tells a thousand words:
Gay as hell.
As a smart dude as you are I find it funny that you can't see why it is seen as a "gay" sport in the USA. Because the big 3 want you to think that way to have the already dwindling (not NFL) attendance and TV ratings to have their market share cut into to more. I thought you were smarter than that dude. What other reason do 5 billion people outside of the USA don't have the short vision like you fags do?
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Well, they say a pictures tells a thousand words:
Gay as hell.
As a smart dude as you are I find it funny that you can't see why it is seen as a "gay" sport in the USA. Because the big 3 want you to think that way to have the already dwindling (not NFL) attendance and TV ratings to have their market share cut into to more. I thought you were smarter than that dude. What other reason do 5 billion people outside of the USA don't have the short vision like you fags do?
As a smart dude as you are I find it funny that you can't see why it is seen as a "gay" sport in the USA. Because the big 3 want you to think that way to have the already dwindling (not NFL) attendance and TV ratings to have their market share cut into to more. I thought you were smarter than that dude. What other reason do 5 billion people outside of the USA don't have the short vision like you fags do?
Just playing Kosar, just playing.
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I know what the rule is about....and I see that in fact it rewards lazy and incompetent defense in many many cases.
That's wrong. I'm also guessing you haven't watched or played in enough games to use the phrase "many cases".
That's wrong. I'm also guessing you haven't watched or played in enough games to use the phrase "many cases".
I have seen these games....and they are supposed to be the best of the best.....and in these games, the refs are constantly getting it wrong.
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That's wrong. I'm also guessing you haven't watched or played in enough games to use the phrase "many cases".
I have seen these games....and they are supposed to be the best of the best.....and in these games, the refs are constantly getting it wrong.
I have seen these games....and they are supposed to be the best of the best.....and in these games, the refs are constantly getting it wrong.
The world cup does not produce the best football. These teams are thrown together a few times a year to play, as opposed to the domestic teams that play together every day.
Imagine there's a tournament in the offseason where each state picks a team of players from that state. They'll be NFL players, but because they don't get much time together, they can't really gel that well as a team. But still, everyone cheers like mad for their own state, because they're representing.
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I know what the rule is about....and I see that in fact it rewards lazy and incompetent defense in many many cases.
As for the officials getting wrong half the time....I simply need to listen to the commentators who are constantly pointing out that the officials are getting it wrong all the time.
It punishes lazy and incompetent defenses, and rewards those that are well drilled enough to be able to hold a line.
Example: you would traditionally have four defenders; the rule generally means that there needs to be at least one defender between you and the goal (assuming the goalkeeper is there) - or level with you; if you have your four defenders in a straight line, then all attackers must be behind the defensive line. If you have a crooked looking line - picture one of the middle guys being 2 yards ahead, for example - then the guy he is marking can have that 2 yards head start because the rest of the defensive line is in line with him, so he's onside.
Without the offside rule in place, the striker can stand as far up the pitch as he likes, while the other team attacks, waiting for the keeper to get the ball and punt it to him...
Side note: this isn't a part of the game that anyone would consider 'beautiful' - it doesn't take any real skill or talent to kick the ball as far as you can to get it to the attacker and then for him to score like that. When I'm playing 5-a-side, where there are no offsides, nobody really enjoys scoring those goals. It's not what you play for.
Back on track...that meant that at least one defender (probably two) had to stay back with him, and that meant that the team as a whole became more split, and you would have defenders specialising in only defensive play. Now, with the rule in place, you can move everyone higher up the pitch, resulting in the evolution of defenders from purely destructive players to having the ability to take a full part in the offensive element of the game as well, becoming much more technically adept and thus improving the overall attacking quality of the team.
So not only does the offside rule eliminate the boring goals, it also had the side effect of improving the quality of the game. Similarly, the elimination of the backpass improved the ball skills of the goal keeper since he couldn't just use his hands, while also cutting down on time wasting.
I hope this helps you to understand the positive impact of the offside rule - if you have any questions, I'll be happy to answer them.
It punishes lazy and incompetent defenses, and rewards those that are well drilled enough to be able to hold a line.
Example: you would traditionally have four defenders; the rule generally means that there needs to be at least one defender between you and the goal (assuming the goalkeeper is there) - or level with you; if you have your four defenders in a straight line, then all attackers must be behind the defensive line. If you have a crooked looking line - picture one of the middle guys being 2 yards ahead, for example - then the guy he is marking can have that 2 yards head start because the rest of the defensive line is in line with him, so he's onside.
You are looking at if from the defensive point of view....from an offensive point of view, if an attacker can surpass a defender....you know...outrun him, then it should be up to the defender to keep up with the attacker. It is the attacker that is punished for the defender being slow and stupid.
Without the offside rule in place, the striker can stand as far up the pitch as he likes, while the other team attacks, waiting for the keeper to get the ball and punt it to him...
Yea, and I see nothing wrong...at all...with that. If a striker stands that far up the pitch...then you defend him.
It is just like cherry picking in basketball. If a team leaves a guy back up court or back upfield, then that is one less person they have to pay defense....and usually the defense pays for that. But if a guy is going to cherry pick....then you cover the cherry picker. And if you have ever played basketball sometimes you know that the method of covering that cherry picker is with a forearm shiver. He will get the idea that he should not cherry pick.
Side note: this isn't a part of the game that anyone would consider 'beautiful' - it doesn't take any real skill or talent to kick the ball as far as you can to get it to the attacker and then for him to score like that. When I'm playing 5-a-side, where there are no offsides, nobody really enjoys scoring those goals. It's not what you play for.
What the fuck if the goalie? A potted plant?
If you are going to have game decided by fucking stupid penalty kicks, then what you would get in your scenario is essentially penalty kicks that come in the natural course of action rather than through some end of game gimmick. Does no one really enjoy scoring penalty kicks? They would enjoy them as much if they came in the course of the game as much as at the end of the game.
And in my scheme, you would truly, rarely ever need the gimmick of penalty kick decision making.
Back on track...that meant that at least one defender (probably two) had to stay back with him, and that meant that the team as a whole became more split, and you would have defenders specialising in only defensive play. Now, with the rule in place, you can move everyone higher up the pitch, resulting in the evolution of defenders from purely destructive players to having the ability to take a full part in the offensive element of the game as well, becoming much more technically adept and thus improving the overall attacking quality of the team.
So not only does the offside rule eliminate the boring goals, it also had the side effect of improving the quality of the game. Similarly, the elimination of the backpass improved the ball skills of the goal keeper since he couldn't just use his hands, while also cutting down on time wasting.
I hope this helps you to understand the positive impact of the offside rule - if you have any questions, I'll be happy to answer them.
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Well put about the offsides rule. His assessment that it promoted lazy defense could not be more wrong. I've played defense my entire life, offsides is just another element I need to consider. Also, completely opening the game up and turning it into kickball would ruin it.
But, like we've said before, his limited knowledge of the game isn't stopping him from trying to impose rule changes. Though it should, because he has no idea what he's talking about.
Well put about the offsides rule. His assessment that it promoted lazy defense could not be more wrong. I've played defense my entire life, offsides is just another element I need to consider. Also, completely opening the game up and turning it into kickball would ruin it.
But, like we've said before, his limited knowledge of the game isn't stopping him from trying to impose rule changes. Though it should, because he has no idea what he's talking about.
Yep, all I am trying to do is to make it less boring. To infuse more offense. You could live with the game being more exciting. After all, baseball adopted the designated hitter, football adopted the no bump and run rule, basketball adopted the 3 point shot.
But by all means, keep your archaic, boring rules.
The WC will be over in a few days and no one, anywhere will have to talk soccer again for another 4 years....or at least until the Olympics.
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Well, they say a pictures tells a thousand words:
Gay as hell.
Damn straight. Men should not touch other men. If you absolutely have to, make sure it's a handshake. With gloves on, preferably.
Thank god real american men play a sport where they dress up in spandex, wear a load of padding and wait for one man to reach under another man's ass and grab a ball before running for 20 seconds and then having a break.
Perspective is everything.
Damn straight. Men should not touch other men. If you absolutely have to, make sure it's a handshake. With gloves on, preferably.
Thank god real american men play a sport where they dress up in spandex, wear a load of padding and wait for one man to reach under another man's ass and grab a ball before running for 20 seconds and then having a break.
Perspective is everything.
The perspective is that the object of football is to hit the other guy...all players on the field are allowed to hit all the other guys on the field, within certain limitations (like spearing and head shots)....The object of football is not to hit the ball as in other sports.
Even in rugby where you can tackle the ball carrier, you are not allowed to hit the other guys on the field unless they have the ball (at least that is my understanding...that there is no "blocking" in rugby). Again, not so in football.
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Damn straight. Men should not touch other men. If you absolutely have to, make sure it's a handshake. With gloves on, preferably.
Thank god real american men play a sport where they dress up in spandex, wear a load of padding and wait for one man to reach under another man's ass and grab a ball before running for 20 seconds and then having a break.
Perspective is everything.
The perspective is that the object of football is to hit the other guy...all players on the field are allowed to hit all the other guys on the field, within certain limitations (like spearing and head shots)....The object of football is not to hit the ball as in other sports.
Even in rugby where you can tackle the ball carrier, you are not allowed to hit the other guys on the field unless they have the ball (at least that is my understanding...that there is no "blocking" in rugby). Again, not so in football.
The perspective is that the object of football is to hit the other guy...all players on the field are allowed to hit all the other guys on the field, within certain limitations (like spearing and head shots)....The object of football is not to hit the ball as in other sports.
Even in rugby where you can tackle the ball carrier, you are not allowed to hit the other guys on the field unless they have the ball (at least that is my understanding...that there is no "blocking" in rugby). Again, not so in football.
Yep, you have to actually use your brain to get the better of people in some sports...
Suh SMASH!!!
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I have seen these games....and they are supposed to be the best of the best.....and in these games, the refs are constantly getting it wrong.
The world cup does not produce the best football. These teams are thrown together a few times a year to play, as opposed to the domestic teams that play together every day.
Imagine there's a tournament in the offseason where each state picks a team of players from that state. They'll be NFL players, but because they don't get much time together, they can't really gel that well as a team. But still, everyone cheers like mad for their own state, because they're representing.
The world cup does not produce the best football. These teams are thrown together a few times a year to play, as opposed to the domestic teams that play together every day.
Imagine there's a tournament in the offseason where each state picks a team of players from that state. They'll be NFL players, but because they don't get much time together, they can't really gel that well as a team. But still, everyone cheers like mad for their own state, because they're representing.
OK, I can see that. It would be like taking any NFL team and matching them up against a hastily put together all star team. The team that has practiced and played together for years should have an advantage over the talented, but less organized all star team.
It is one of the reasons that All Star games in the likes of hockey/basketball/football are usually poor displays of the best of each sport. (I suspect soccer would be the same). The one exception is baseball. So much of baseball is based on individuality. The essence of the pitcher against the batter doesn't really change whether it is a regular team game or an All star matchup. A great defensive play by a shortstop or an outfielder doesn't rely on the aid of the fellow defenders.
Baseball is truly the beautiful game. Just the fact that there can be variances in the actual field of play from park to park is also something that differentiates baseball from most other sports. In one park you may have to hit a ball 400 feet down a foul line, where in other parks it can be as little as 300 feet.
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I have seen these games....and they are supposed to be the best of the best.....and in these games, the refs are constantly getting it wrong.
The world cup does not produce the best football. These teams are thrown together a few times a year to play, as opposed to the domestic teams that play together every day.
Imagine there's a tournament in the offseason where each state picks a team of players from that state. They'll be NFL players, but because they don't get much time together, they can't really gel that well as a team. But still, everyone cheers like mad for their own state, because they're representing.
The world cup does not produce the best football. These teams are thrown together a few times a year to play, as opposed to the domestic teams that play together every day.
Imagine there's a tournament in the offseason where each state picks a team of players from that state. They'll be NFL players, but because they don't get much time together, they can't really gel that well as a team. But still, everyone cheers like mad for their own state, because they're representing.
I wish they would condense the Champions League into a month similar to the World Cup. That would probably be soccer's best bet of catching America's short attention span. Play it right about now every year so the only competition would be baseball and a few tennis and golf tournaments and you'll get some great ratings across the pond.
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The perspective is that the object of football is to hit the other guy...all players on the field are allowed to hit all the other guys on the field, within certain limitations (like spearing and head shots)....The object of football is not to hit the ball as in other sports.
Even in rugby where you can tackle the ball carrier, you are not allowed to hit the other guys on the field unless they have the ball (at least that is my understanding...that there is no "blocking" in rugby). Again, not so in football.
Yep, you have to actually use your brain to get the better of people in some sports...
Suh SMASH!!!
Yep, you have to actually use your brain to get the better of people in some sports...
Suh SMASH!!!
Actually, football is the game that perhaps needs the most intelligence because it requires the most coordination of effort of all the players on the field.
As noted above, one beauty of baseball is the individuality of the sport, in football it is very much the opposite. Every person on an 11 man offense or defense have there assignments.....and that effort of, yes, smashing into the opponents requires brute force....it also requires more cooperative effort, more technique, more...intelligence to accomplish the results you want than most of the other sports. You often hear how one man having a breakdown in their assignment can ruin an entire play. Its true.
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Brazil certainly did nazi that one coming.
Anyone? Anyone?
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Yep, you have to actually use your brain to get the better of people in some sports...
Suh SMASH!!!
Actually, football is the game that perhaps needs the most intelligence because it requires the most coordination of effort of all the players on the field.
As noted above, one beauty of baseball is the individuality of the sport, in football it is very much the opposite. Every person on an 11 man offense or defense have there assignments.....and that effort of, yes, smashing into the opponents requires brute force....it also requires more cooperative effort, more technique, more...intelligence to accomplish the results you want than most of the other sports. You often hear how one man having a breakdown in their assignment can ruin an entire play. Its true.
Actually, football is the game that perhaps needs the most intelligence because it requires the most coordination of effort of all the players on the field.
As noted above, one beauty of baseball is the individuality of the sport, in football it is very much the opposite. Every person on an 11 man offense or defense have there assignments.....and that effort of, yes, smashing into the opponents requires brute force....it also requires more cooperative effort, more technique, more...intelligence to accomplish the results you want than most of the other sports. You often hear how one man having a breakdown in their assignment can ruin an entire play. Its true.
I wouldn't say football requires the most intelligence. The thing about football is all of the positions are so different. You can't just take the most positive aspects of each and call that football.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Well put about the offsides rule. His assessment that it promoted lazy defense could not be more wrong. I've played defense my entire life, offsides is just another element I need to consider. Also, completely opening the game up and turning it into kickball would ruin it.
But, like we've said before, his limited knowledge of the game isn't stopping him from trying to impose rule changes. Though it should, because he has no idea what he's talking about.
Yep, all I am trying to do is to make it less boring. To infuse more offense. You could live with the game being more exciting. After all, baseball adopted the designated hitter, football adopted the no bump and run rule, basketball adopted the 3 point shot.
But by all means, keep your archaic, boring rules.
The WC will be over in a few days and no one, anywhere will have to talk soccer again for another 4 years....or at least until the Olympics.
Yep, all I am trying to do is to make it less boring. To infuse more offense. You could live with the game being more exciting. After all, baseball adopted the designated hitter, football adopted the no bump and run rule, basketball adopted the 3 point shot.
But by all means, keep your archaic, boring rules.
The WC will be over in a few days and no one, anywhere will have to talk soccer again for another 4 years....or at least until the Olympics.
Removing offsides in soccer is a much bigger change than the ones you mentioned. The rest of the world and a good bit of America find the sport plenty exciting already.
I find baseball incredibly dull and slow. I could think of ways that would make it more exciting for me, but it would completely change the sport.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Actually, football is the game that perhaps needs the most intelligence because it requires the most coordination of effort of all the players on the field.
As noted above, one beauty of baseball is the individuality of the sport, in football it is very much the opposite. Every person on an 11 man offense or defense have there assignments.....and that effort of, yes, smashing into the opponents requires brute force....it also requires more cooperative effort, more technique, more...intelligence to accomplish the results you want than most of the other sports. You often hear how one man having a breakdown in their assignment can ruin an entire play. Its true.
I wouldn't say football requires the most intelligence. The thing about football is all of the positions are so different. You can't just take the most positive aspects of each and call that football.
I wouldn't say football requires the most intelligence. The thing about football is all of the positions are so different. You can't just take the most positive aspects of each and call that football.
In soccer you are often required to do someone else's job. A counter attack might result in a forward having to do some defending, or a defender may suddenly find himself through on goal. There's nothing close to the level of specialisation you have in the NFL, where you wouldn't ask a WR to suddenly play guard for a minute because the starter couldn't make it up the pitch in time.
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I wouldn't say football requires the most intelligence. The thing about football is all of the positions are so different. You can't just take the most positive aspects of each and call that football.
In soccer you are often required to do someone else's job. A counter attack might result in a forward having to do some defending, or a defender may suddenly find himself through on goal. There's nothing close to the level of specialisation you have in the NFL, where you wouldn't ask a WR to suddenly play guard for a minute because the starter couldn't make it up the pitch in time.
In soccer you are often required to do someone else's job. A counter attack might result in a forward having to do some defending, or a defender may suddenly find himself through on goal. There's nothing close to the level of specialisation you have in the NFL, where you wouldn't ask a WR to suddenly play guard for a minute because the starter couldn't make it up the pitch in time.
Uhmm, right. The NFL is a far more specialized game. That is why I say the intellect in football must be at a high level. Each of those "specialists" have their own tasks to perform, but they must be performed in concert with what each of the other specialists are doing out there in order for the entire team to perform properly and to make a play come off as designed.
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Yep, all I am trying to do is to make it less boring. To infuse more offense. You could live with the game being more exciting. After all, baseball adopted the designated hitter, football adopted the no bump and run rule, basketball adopted the 3 point shot.
But by all means, keep your archaic, boring rules.
The WC will be over in a few days and no one, anywhere will have to talk soccer again for another 4 years....or at least until the Olympics.
Removing offsides in soccer is a much bigger change than the ones you mentioned. The rest of the world and a good bit of America find the sport plenty exciting already.
I find baseball incredibly dull and slow. I could think of ways that would make it more exciting for me, but it would completely change the sport.
Removing offsides in soccer is a much bigger change than the ones you mentioned. The rest of the world and a good bit of America find the sport plenty exciting already.
I find baseball incredibly dull and slow. I could think of ways that would make it more exciting for me, but it would completely change the sport.
Every single pitch of a baseball game could result in some significant action, be it from a home run to a strike out. Every pitch is mano a mano.
The hardest skill in any sport I know of is to hit a round ball with a round bat.
I mean, what changes could you suggest to make the game more exciting? Tossing the ball underhand? Playing in kilts? Using a golf ball?
Please, tell us.
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