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  • They are looking to stike at Israel while our government

    is far more pro-Arab, Muslim, and

    not much of a supporter of Israel.

    The next two years - all hell may break out.

    The lack of U.S. leadership has created a void that

    doesn't stop bad things from happening now.

  • To be fair the us government never stopped anything bad from happening in the middle east

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...

  • True, but now bad things are being encouraged by the lack of leadership

    in our gov,

    and the lack of support for Israel, and withdrawing prematurely from Iraq and Afghanistan,

    as well as having our president be completely in support of...Muslims.

  • Egypt, the American backed mediator who has crafted previous ceasefires, and attempted to again without success, are now taking the stance of allowing Israel to go in, do what needs to be done (aka weaken Hamas to the brink of non existence), and force Hamas to basically capitulate.

    Isn't that what is wanted on the right?

    Cal you get to caught up in words and don't pay attention to the actions. Does the administration need to say they what a peaceful resolution? Of course they do. Do they need to make half assed attempts to find a political agreement by sending Kerry across the middle east to show the world we are trying to mediate? Of course. That's called politics.

    The actions, not the words, are what matter. Hamas' military stockpiles are nearly depleted, they are and have been under blockade by both Israel and Egypt for some time now (reducing their ability to replenish their stockpiles), they've alienated their major backer in Assad (as well as Iran) by backing the rebels (further reducing their source of stockpiles), and Israel is now going in on the ground to finish off the job.

    Is it Obama's fault that Hamas is going to be a non entity in the very near future too? No, an Islamic country working in concert with a Jewish country, without a powerful outside source that is allied with both, to kill Muslims is a much more likely scenario.

  • Well....

    If you're going to make a lot of sense, it makes it no fun to argue with you, dammit.

  • I don't pretend to understand their fight................................... But why does the USA care?????????????

    They have been killing each other for 1000's of years, and they are fighting over land that is about the size of Delaware?

    Why can't we just let them kill each other?

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."

  • ISIS is the real problem over there but I don't hear much about it for some reason. Like the world is turning a blind eye to it kind of like the lawless mexican drug cartels. It's reported but sort of in a ho-hum manner unlike the sensationalism of whatever Israel is up to with Hamas this time. 700 people got killed in Syria over two days. The world is seriously jacked up right now

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
  • T The Cysko Kid

    ISIS is the real problem over there but I don't hear much about it for some reason. Like the world is turning a blind eye to it kind of like the lawless mexican drug cartels. It's reported but sort of in a ho-hum manner unlike the sensationalism of whatever Israel is up to with Hamas this time. 700 people got killed in Syria over two days. The world is seriously jacked up right now

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    ISIS is the real problem over there but I don't hear much about it for some reason. Like the world is turning a blind eye to it kind of like the lawless mexican drug cartels. It's reported but sort of in a ho-hum manner unlike the sensationalism of whatever Israel is up to with Hamas this time. 700 people got killed in Syria over two days. The world is seriously jacked up right now

    Again, why does the USA care?

    Why are we the worlds police?

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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  • Why do we care about Israel vs Palestine again and again?

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
  • T The Cysko Kid

    Why do we care about Israel vs Palestine again and again?

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Why do we care about Israel vs Palestine again and again?

    Got me. They have been at this for 1000's of years. And for what???????????????????

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
  • http://m.christianpost.com/news/thousands-of-christians-fleeing-northern-iraq-following-isis-convert-or-die-ultimatum--123587/
    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
  • T The Cysko Kid
    http://m.christianpost.com/news/thousands-of-christians-fleeing-northern-iraq-following-isis-convert-or-die-ultimatum--123587/

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Are you saying "Religion" is the cause for all this?

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."

  • I'm saying they're chasing all the Christians out and burning ancient churches down.

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
  • T The Cysko Kid

    I'm saying they're chasing all the Christians out and burning ancient churches down.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    I'm saying they're chasing all the Christians out and burning ancient churches down.

    So Religion it is

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."

  • Yeah for a terror group persecuting other people on a strictly religious platform I'd say it has a lot to do with it

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...

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  • There seems to be an isolationist viewpoint in the USA like, just let them alone, etc. That is not the way it works. We have historically helped Israel because of the Holocaust. We can't turn a blind eye on world events because sooner or later it will bite us in the ass. The world is a much smaller place now, and we have enemies that would love to destroy us. Whether you believe it or not is up to you.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.

  • if there was oil involved we would be less involved......believe me.

    and yes religion is and has been the cause of more war and death in the history of mankind.

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