JF leapfrogs Hoyer (accord. to source)
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Why would I hoot and howl? I trust the coach to pick who's best. Why don't you Hoyer fan boys doo the same?
i'm a browns fan. not a hoyer or manziel fan. whoever the coaches pick is fine with me.
if it wasn't important to you then why come on here and suck manziel's dick?
you'll be around if manziel fails? cuz i'll be here if hoyer fails, gordon gets cut, another round of coaching and FO changes. yeah, i'll be here.
btw with 16 posts i really doubt that you just happened to join the forum as a browns fan, more like a johnny fan, which is totally different.
need i explain?
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Regular and postseason, ya know, when the games actually are important for the organization. Regular season wins get you to the playoffs while postseason wins gets you to a championsip.
Anything before that just gets you to the next practice.
So what on earth is the Hoyer excitement around here about then? He hasn't done anything of note on the field during the regular season... and that has been over 5 seasons in the league.
So what on earth is the Hoyer excitement around here about then? He hasn't done anything of note on the field during the regular season... and that has been over 5 seasons in the league.
Hoyer has indeed done something of note on the field. In his first two starts last year he was able to accomplish something that no other Browns quarterback had been able to do over the last 5+ years - make the Browns offense look like a real NFL offense. Until Hoyer took the reins Browns fans were used to 3-and-outs, stalled drives, and tons of field goals. The most successful penetrations of the opponents' half of the field were the result of either a good punt return or a defensive turnover. Hoyer, with his ability to survey the field and get rid of the ball quickly, actually moved the Browns down the field from time to time, put points on the board, engineered a come-from-behind game-winning drive late in one contest, and generated a feeling of optimism among the fanbase when the Browns had the ball - instead of the agonized hope that (insert quarterback here) would not throw a pick/get sacked/over or underthrow his receiver/get his pass batted down at the line of scrimmage/do whatever it was that Brandon Weedon did.
Sure, Hoyer isn't an electrifying talent. He is what he is - an efficient, effective game manager. That type of quarterback, coupled with a tough defense, wins games in the NFL. It may not be the most exciting style to watch, but it works. And as my father said, "What works is what's right."
Brian Hoyer is right.
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I'm 100% with you Suomi and couldn't have said it better myself. To everyone else. This has been the most entertaining thread I've read on the BB in quite a while!
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Why would I hoot and howl? I trust the coach to pick who's best. Why don't you Hoyer fan boys doo the same?
i'm a browns fan. not a hoyer or manziel fan. whoever the coaches pick is fine with me.
if it wasn't important to you then why come on here and suck manziel's dick?
you'll be around if manziel fails? cuz i'll be here if hoyer fails, gordon gets cut, another round of coaching and FO changes. yeah, i'll be here.
btw with 16 posts i really doubt that you just happened to join the forum as a browns fan, more like a johnny fan, which is totally different.
need i explain?
i'm a browns fan. not a hoyer or manziel fan. whoever the coaches pick is fine with me.
if it wasn't important to you then why come on here and suck manziel's dick?
you'll be around if manziel fails? cuz i'll be here if hoyer fails, gordon gets cut, another round of coaching and FO changes. yeah, i'll be here.
btw with 16 posts i really doubt that you just happened to join the forum as a browns fan, more like a johnny fan, which is totally different.
need i explain?
I keep reading you say you are a Browns fan.
Don't really see any evidence of that, other than you keep saying it.
Which isn't enough evidence.
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i'm a browns fan. not a hoyer or manziel fan. whoever the coaches pick is fine with me.
if it wasn't important to you then why come on here and suck manziel's dick?
you'll be around if manziel fails? cuz i'll be here if hoyer fails, gordon gets cut, another round of coaching and FO changes. yeah, i'll be here.
btw with 16 posts i really doubt that you just happened to join the forum as a browns fan, more like a johnny fan, which is totally different.
need i explain?
I keep reading you say you are a Browns fan.
Don't really see any evidence of that, other than you keep saying it.
Which isn't enough evidence.
I keep reading you say you are a Browns fan.
Don't really see any evidence of that, other than you keep saying it.
Which isn't enough evidence.
You are funny but mostly just dumb. I was on here while you were still pulling milk from your mom's dick.
I would have to be one major troll to make a browns forum my home given their recent history.
Now go get your shine box bitch.
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I keep reading you say you are a Browns fan.
Don't really see any evidence of that, other than you keep saying it.
Which isn't enough evidence.
You are funny but mostly just dumb. I was on here while you were still pulling milk from your mom's dick.
I would have to be one major troll to make a browns forum my home given their recent history.
Now go get your shine box bitch.
You are funny but mostly just dumb. I was on here while you were still pulling milk from your mom's dick.
I would have to be one major troll to make a browns forum my home given their recent history.
Now go get your shine box bitch.
There we go - I can buy you being a major troll. You're doing a fine job!
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Kid goes what...7 of 11 with a couple of drops...which would have made him 9 of 11... no INTs... with the scrub line in....and you jeenyuses are worried about him locking onto recievers?
Seriously?
Kid goes what...7 of 11 with a couple of drops...which would have made him 9 of 11... no INTs... with the scrub line in....and you jeenyuses are worried about him locking onto recievers?
Seriously?
Watch NFL games much? Locking onto your wr on an out route results in the regular season (more often than not) into a pick six- want me to tell you what that is, and why it's a bad thing?
So what on earth is the Hoyer excitement around here about then? He hasn't done anything of note on the field during the regular season... and that has been over 5 seasons in the league.
See Suomi's post Mr. Johnny Come Lately.
There we go - I can buy you being a major troll. You're doing a fine job!
Based on some of your posts, I doubt if you would know what a troll is- even if if one walked up to you and bit you in the ass. But go look in a mirror, and you'll see a one trick flamebaiter- just my 0.02.
Let me enlighten you- Mik is such a big troll he had several dozen custom t-shirts printed up for our last Browns Board Tailgate- at his expense. You may now shut your pie hole about Mik being a troll.
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Kid goes what...7 of 11 with a couple of drops...which would have made him 9 of 11... no INTs... with the scrub line in....and you jeenyuses are worried about him locking onto recievers?
Seriously?
Watch NFL games much? Locking onto your wr on an out route results in the regular season (more often than not) into a pick six- want me to tell you what that is, and why it's a bad thing?
So what on earth is the Hoyer excitement around here about then? He hasn't done anything of note on the field during the regular season... and that has been over 5 seasons in the league.
See Suomi's post Mr. Johnny Come Lately.
There we go - I can buy you being a major troll. You're doing a fine job!
Based on some of your posts, I doubt if you would know what a troll is- even if if one walked up to you and bit you in the ass. But go look in a mirror, and you'll see a one trick flamebaiter- just my 0.02.
Let me enlighten you- Mik is such a big troll he had several dozen custom t-shirts printed up for our last Browns Board Tailgate- at his expense. You may now shut your pie hole about Mik being a troll.
Watch NFL games much? Locking onto your wr on an out route results in the regular season (more often than not) into a pick six- want me to tell you what that is, and why it's a bad thing?
See Suomi's post Mr. Johnny Come Lately.
Based on some of your posts, I doubt if you would know what a troll is- even if if one walked up to you and bit you in the ass. But go look in a mirror, and you'll see a one trick flamebaiter- just my 0.02.
Let me enlighten you- Mik is such a big troll he had several dozen custom t-shirts printed up for our last Browns Board Tailgate- at his expense. You may now shut your pie hole about Mik being a troll.
Was "Browns" spelled correctly on them, or was it just pictures?
I dunno, sounds ghey to me, printing up a bunch of shirts about a group of men from other places hired to represent your town.
Were they sleeveless tshirts?
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How to get your dumb ass kicked off a forum in 1 easy step.
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Regular and postseason, ya know, when the games actually are important for the organization. Regular season wins get you to the playoffs while postseason wins gets you to a championsip.
Anything before that just gets you to the next practice.
So what on earth is the Hoyer excitement around here about then? He hasn't done anything of note on the field during the regular season... and that has been over 5 seasons in the league.
@everlastingxxx said:
Sure, but most young quarterbacks tend to stare down the receivers. I dont think any of the play calls needed him to look off the safety. Most were simple out routes. It took Romo years to develop the art of looking off the coverage.
But it takes a lot of others less...
Seriously, it's not that hard. If you look at the Safety (usually the FS) to read him, which on downfield pass calls you want to do, then you also effectively freeze him. It's a twofer...
It's when you are looking for a receiver to come open that you stare them down.
So what on earth is the Hoyer excitement around here about then? He hasn't done anything of note on the field during the regular season... and that has been over 5 seasons in the league.
I yield to Suomi's reply...
Hoyer has indeed done something of note on the field. In his first two starts last year he was able to accomplish something that no other Browns quarterback had been able to do over the last 5+ years - make the Browns offense look like a real NFL offense.
Sure, Hoyer isn't an electrifying talent. He is what he is - an efficient, effective game manager. That type of quarterback, coupled with a tough defense, wins games in the NFL. It may not be the most exciting style to watch, but it works. And as my father said, "What works is what's right."
Brian Hoyer is right.
Edited somewhat, but still beautiful...
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Regular and postseason, ya know, when the games actually are important for the organization. Regular season wins get you to the playoffs while postseason wins gets you to a championsip.
Anything before that just gets you to the next practice.
So what on earth is the Hoyer excitement around here about then? He hasn't done anything of note on the field during the regular season... and that has been over 5 seasons in the league.
So what on earth is the Hoyer excitement around here about then? He hasn't done anything of note on the field during the regular season... and that has been over 5 seasons in the league.
As noted....he is 3-0 as a starter for this team........and if you know our record over the last 15 years, you would know that that is something to acclaim......any port in the storm.
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Still going to divide the reps with the number 1's. Ought to be plenty for both as the 1's often play into Q3 in the 2nd preseason game.
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Mik will be a Manziel fanboy before the season is over. You ALL will be Manziel fanboys
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I agree with Everlasting, there's a better way, and when you start running uptempo and no huddle, you have to figure out ways to shorten the playcall. If it takes 10 seconds to get the play out, if puts your "uptempo" at a disadvantage.
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Mik will be a Manziel fanboy before the season is over. You ALL will be Manziel fanboys
you're funny.
never seen people like you guys that are so enamored with one player. it's weird that this forum has lasted all these years without the likes of manziel fans. as a matter of fact i think this board turned to shit hours after manziel was drafted.
sure all of us have favorite players BUT to actually own a blow-up doll of a midget and carry around pom poms in your back pockets...............uh, no.
(btw. i actually like, not love, manziel. i just really dislike a lot of you manziel fag boys.)
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I just hope this brand new front office and coach arent trying to outsmart the whole world by playing silly little games.
Maybe I'm just more tuned in to the Cleveland Browns than other teams but it doesn't seem like the successful franchises are dicking around with no idea the starting quarterback might possibly be.
And if they are really dragging the league off by trying to trade Hoyer well that sounds like a strategy they can blow up in your face.
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This game is meaningless.
So not give Manziel his first true test at starting and keep Hoyer the starter for week 1 and preseason game 3 ?????
Once again, Pettine inspires little confidence in Manziel and if the team comes out flat on their ass again like they did vs. Detroit, it won't matter who the QB is week 1 because we'll of found ourselves another boring fucking crone of a head coach.
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given the fact that the whole JF media circus frenzy is on the guy's back i think pettine is doing just fine.
maybe he's starting hoyer monday night to teach all the media outlets that had pronounced JF the starter a lesson. it's amazing how these huge sports networks just come up with their own stories.
just because hoyer is starting does not mean manziel will not take reps with the 1s and against the 1s. if people would actually read the 'official' presser that pettine gave they wouldn't be all up in arms.
once again JF fans making a big deal out of nothing.
don't worry fags i'm sure JF and RG3 will give you plenty of time for your anticipated pants around the ankle, crisco fest.
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