They shot one of my homies, lets go get some free stuff!
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I didn't attribute it to them being black that's your emotional reaction to it and you just made me talk like cal so good job. I merely pointed out its a more prevalent attitude in their culture and I specifically called out the lower socioeconomic class. Whether you like it or not they largely exist in that class due to a variety of factors. Prejudice is one although that excuse is waning quickly. Cultural attitude is another and that one is still going strong.
I didn't attribute it to them being black that's your emotional reaction to it and you just made me talk like cal so good job. I merely pointed out its a more prevalent attitude in their culture and I specifically called out the lower socioeconomic class. Whether you like it or not they largely exist in that class due to a variety of factors. Prejudice is one although that excuse is waning quickly. Cultural attitude is another and that one is still going strong.
You are starting to sound like Cal, which isn't a good sign for your argument. I'm just basing this off of that first thread. You said blacks here and in Africa underachieved because of "black culture". Where in reality both those cultures have very little similarities. The main similarity I'm seeing is skin color. Call that "emotional" if you want.
Like I said, I think more of what you're describing is just a certain socioeconomic culture. Something that all races can experience.
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Vietnamese boat people, escaped Vietnam with nothing. Most came here and succeeded, owning restaurants, working hard. Most legal immigrants succeed in the USA who come from all countries. Must be the culture.
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I didn't attribute it to them being black that's your emotional reaction to it and you just made me talk like cal so good job. I merely pointed out its a more prevalent attitude in their culture and I specifically called out the lower socioeconomic class. Whether you like it or not they largely exist in that class due to a variety of factors. Prejudice is one although that excuse is waning quickly. Cultural attitude is another and that one is still going strong.
You are starting to sound like Cal, which isn't a good sign for your argument. I'm just basing this off of that first thread. You said blacks here and in Africa underachieved because of "black culture". Where in reality both those cultures have very little similarities. The main similarity I'm seeing is skin color. Call that "emotional" if you want.
Like I said, I think more of what you're describing is just a certain socioeconomic culture. Something that all races can experience.
I'm quite sure you don't clearly remember the thread in question and you're basing this off of things you want to think I said. What you're remembering is your buddy heck doing everything in his power to spin statistics into racism. Doing a poor job as I remember.You are starting to sound like Cal, which isn't a good sign for your argument. I'm just basing this off of that first thread. You said blacks here and in Africa underachieved because of "black culture". Where in reality both those cultures have very little similarities. The main similarity I'm seeing is skin color. Call that "emotional" if you want.
Like I said, I think more of what you're describing is just a certain socioeconomic culture. Something that all races can experience.
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That's not what I'm remembering
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You're remembering being offended just as you feigned offense to this thread though I've said nothing particularly offensive. No scratch that. I called legacy a turd
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
Well, Steve, Cysko and others have made you look like the woodypeckerhead, butt of this board, that you are.
I didn't even have to join in, your drivel makes it so easy.
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Well, Steve, Cysko and others have made you look like the woodypeckerhead, butt of this board, that you are.
I didn't even have to join in, your drivel makes it so easy.
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You're remembering being offended just as you feigned offense to this thread though I've said nothing particularly offensive. No scratch that. I called legacy a turd
You're remembering being offended just as you feigned offense to this thread though I've said nothing particularly offensive. No scratch that. I called legacy a turd
Thanks for letting me know what I remember and how I felt...
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woodpeckerhead, you "feel" all the time - instead of keeping to the
subject of threads, you go off on stupid tangents, where you can be
snide and have something to say that doesn't require wisdom, experience,
or pertinent information.
That's why you are the butt of the board.
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I know, it was fantastic. Please do that more often
Ha
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Now answer the question I asked you. Do you believe black communities put pressure on other blacks to succeed in the traditional fashions of Americans? To work hard, get good grades, go to a good school and attain a career? Because it seems to me, especially in the lower socioeconomic class that encompasses most black communities that pressure to do better generation by generation is not there or at least very poorly represented. Black folks that do are often labeled as acting white or uncle toms by their peers.
Yes.
I attribute the attitude you're describing more to socioeconomic status than race.
I realize parts of African culture have been absorbed into Ameeican culture (like ever other culture). You were making the point about black culture having these negative side effects. Attributing the short comings of blacks in Africa and blackd in America to the same"culture". I don't see that as being true. There are many, many more factors at play than some culture linked only by skin color...
Yes.
I attribute the attitude you're describing more to socioeconomic status than race.
I realize parts of African culture have been absorbed into Ameeican culture (like ever other culture). You were making the point about black culture having these negative side effects. Attributing the short comings of blacks in Africa and blackd in America to the same"culture". I don't see that as being true. There are many, many more factors at play than some culture linked only by skin color...
Yes you feel like they do put pressure on each other to do those things and emphasis on them in their communities?
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I feel some do and some don't. I feel some whites do and some don't. I feel some hispanics do and some don't. I think the common denominator is more socioeconomic status... not race. Not a race's culture.
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I'm not sure you've spent any time in predominantly african american communities. After all most african Americans who attain an upper middle class or upper class economic status choose to leave those communities and move to other communities. I'm not sure those people are relevant to this conversation.
Let's ask this question a different way but I'm not sure you'd be able to answer honestly. Would you rather grow up in a trailer park or urban public housing?
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
Both of those places suck.
Worst case scenario urban public housing is probably worse than worst case scenario trailer park though
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I'm not sure you've spent any time in predominantly african american communities. After all most african Americans who attain an upper middle class or upper class economic status choose to leave those communities and move to other communities. I'm not sure those people are relevant to this conversation.
Let's ask this question a different way but I'm not sure you'd be able to answer honestly. Would you rather grow up in a trailer park or urban public housing?
I'm not sure you've spent any time in predominantly african american communities. After all most african Americans who attain an upper middle class or upper class economic status choose to leave those communities and move to other communities. I'm not sure those people are relevant to this conversation.
How are they not relevant? They're a major counterpoint to your argument...
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Woodpeckerhead is brainwashed by college professors. He has never lived amongst the black. Get a job at GE and move to East Cleveland. Experience the culture.
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I must have missed these brainwashing liberal professors you keep going on about. I don't believe there were any in my department....
I got a co-op offer from GE, but it wasn't at that plant. I might have accepted if it was, but I heard it was a very shitty place.
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I'm not sure you've spent any time in predominantly african american communities. After all most african Americans who attain an upper middle class or upper class economic status choose to leave those communities and move to other communities. I'm not sure those people are relevant to this conversation.
How are they not relevant? They're a major counterpoint to your argument...
How are they not relevant? They're a major counterpoint to your argument...
Because they tend not to live in "black" communities.
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How are they not relevant? They're a major counterpoint to your argument...
Because they tend not to live in "black" communities.
Because they tend not to live in "black" communities.
Yes but according to your post they were there at one point.
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Most affluent black families are gentrified. Then there is the suddenly rich. I'm pretty sure most upper class families wouldn't love it if Lil Wayne moved in next door
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