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  • "Manziel and Hoyer were both so bad Mike Pettine might wit another game to name his starter"

    per Mary Kay Cabot twitter.

  • I'd like to see more of Manziel with the 1s.

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  • I've seen enough Johnny,,,,,,, period.

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  • Delaying a choice until next week is delaying a starter from getting reps and building a much needed rhythm regardless of the choice..

    While they both stunk it up last night manziel thusfar has performed very slightly better with far fewer reps with the first team throughout training camp..

    I am of the opinion pettine should give johnny finger the start, imo neither of them have earned the job but johnny finger has managed to catch up and has slightly better game stats showing that he will likely bypass hometown hoyers abilities when given all the first reps..

    The worst thing that happens in this scenario is johnny rook cant get it done/gets hurt and hoyer the 6 year veteran backup takes over doing what he has always done..

    If brian gets the nod and then gets hurt we would be back to square one with johnny rook not having enough work with the ones to have a rhythm possibly losing even more games..

    We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS!
    ComeonmanC 1 Reply

  • Splitting reps is not good at this point. Both performances were very discouraging, but what I saw out there last night was a guy in Manziel who needs to take more time to develop. I know Hoyer looked pretty bad, but it's hard to get into a rythym when one series is marred by penalties/bad snap and the other stalled quickly. Give Hoyer the reigns, give Manziel time to grow. Pretty simple looking at the film last night to make that call.

  • Agreed. Hoyer should start the first three games and Pettine can reassess during the bye week.

  • Hoyer should start. Johnny panicked under pressure.

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!

  • Hoyer should Start without having to look over his shoulder prematurly. (Which he has been doing from the start of camp). Take away all the dropped passes by WRs for both QBs and this "compitition" isnt even close. I watch Redskins 2nd string wrs do 360's on the dead run to catch a ball thrown way behind them, as well as the ones that hit them in the numbers.

    When Hoyer came in the second time last night after the 2nd pick. He hit Gordon in stride in the numbers with one guy to beat for a TD or at least to be on the doorstep. (Dropped) And then Hawkins drops an easy TD pass. And dont give me shit about it was behind him. Thats a Fucking Loser Statement. That throw was only where he could caught it we paid him decent money to make those catches. ( Every throw isnt going to be on a TEE)

    Hoyers inaccuarcies are less than that of JF and thats just a fact.

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
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  • Why is it that just about every commentator (and anyone else with a football brain) knew that the 2 series alternating was a bad idea well before this disaster ever started? He should have kept his word to JM at a fair shot with the 1's both in practice and in game 2 just as he did for Hoyer in game 1.

    I said before the game the decision had already been made for Hoyer. This was a setup to make that decision palatable for Browns fans. Unfortunately it backfired since Hoyer had a bad game as well.

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  • Hoyer should still start but the window is much closer than I thought.

  • Agree with those who say the eventual starter needs reps. He'll, even Earnhardt Jr said it. Both of our QBs are not getting enough time with the receivers or the offense they're running. Hoyer and Manziel are 2 different types of QBs and the rest of the team and the coaches have to have time to adjust to them. Name a starter and go with him.

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    Agree with those who say the eventual starter needs reps. He'll, even Earnhardt Jr said it. Both of our QBs are not getting enough time with the receivers or the offense they're running. Hoyer and Manziel are 2 different types of QBs and the rest of the team and the coaches have to have time to adjust to them. Name a starter and go with him.

    @cuwoohio said:

    Agree with those who say the eventual starter needs reps. He'll, even Earnhardt Jr said it. Both of our QBs are not getting enough time with the receivers or the offense they're running. Hoyer and Manziel are 2 different types of QBs and the rest of the team and the coaches have to have time to adjust to them. Name a starter and go with him.

    This shoulda been done two months ago.

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.

  • Honestly, I'm not sold on Hoyer as the starter. We're basing his worth on 2 games last year and the 1st game was not pretty. I say go with JF and let the pieces fall where they may. Note, I said Johnny Football, not the guy the coaches are trying to mold into John Manziel.

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  • C cuwoohio

    Honestly, I'm not sold on Hoyer as the starter. We're basing his worth on 2 games last year and the 1st game was not pretty. I say go with JF and let the pieces fall where they may. Note, I said Johnny Football, not the guy the coaches are trying to mold into John Manziel.

    @cuwoohio said:

    Honestly, I'm not sold on Hoyer as the starter. We're basing his worth on 2 games last year and the 1st game was not pretty. I say go with JF and let the pieces fall where they may. Note, I said Johnny Football, not the guy the coaches are trying to mold into John Manziel.

    Only upside to this would be figuring out quicker if hes the guy. But no development comes from it.

    I dont want to be sitting in First Energy Field and get the bird from JF just because im booing him after he just threw his 3rd int of the half.

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
  • C cuwoohio

    Honestly, I'm not sold on Hoyer as the starter. We're basing his worth on 2 games last year and the 1st game was not pretty. I say go with JF and let the pieces fall where they may. Note, I said Johnny Football, not the guy the coaches are trying to mold into John Manziel.

    @cuwoohio said:

    Honestly, I'm not sold on Hoyer as the starter. We're basing his worth on 2 games last year and the 1st game was not pretty. I say go with JF and let the pieces fall where they may. Note, I said Johnny Football, not the guy the coaches are trying to mold into John Manziel.

    The problem with JF starting at this point is that he isn't Andrew Luck. He isn't close to being ready.

    He has major happy-feet. Several times last night, with a strong pocket he started dancing and I lost

    count of the throws he made off his back foot. He has to learn to go through his progressions, step up

    int the pocket and deliver the ball with authority.

  • C cuwoohio

    Honestly, I'm not sold on Hoyer as the starter. We're basing his worth on 2 games last year and the 1st game was not pretty. I say go with JF and let the pieces fall where they may. Note, I said Johnny Football, not the guy the coaches are trying to mold into John Manziel.

    @cuwoohio said:

    Honestly, I'm not sold on Hoyer as the starter. We're basing his worth on 2 games last year and the 1st game was not pretty. I say go with JF and let the pieces fall where they may. Note, I said Johnny Football, not the guy the coaches are trying to mold into John Manziel.

    I don't think anyone is sold but with the early bye you can still do exactly what you're talking about while giving him another month to develop.

  • I think I see now why they kicked Bernie Kosar off the broadcast team. Hed have a field day with JF, Hoyer and these WRs

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
  • C cuwoohio

    Honestly, I'm not sold on Hoyer as the starter. We're basing his worth on 2 games last year and the 1st game was not pretty. I say go with JF and let the pieces fall where they may. Note, I said Johnny Football, not the guy the coaches are trying to mold into John Manziel.

    @cuwoohio said:

    Honestly, I'm not sold on Hoyer as the starter. We're basing his worth on 2 games last year and the 1st game was not pretty. I say go with JF and let the pieces fall where they may. Note, I said Johnny Football, not the guy the coaches are trying to mold into John Manziel.

    When are people going to get it.

    Johnny Football is a style that can only work in the back yard, highschool and college.

    The improvise shit that folks throw around all predraft is nothing but a product of chaos football and a superior supporting cast. He tried to dance and run yesterday without much success. He was chased down from BEHIND by a 3rd STRING DE yesterday.

  • Call Romeo Crennel and find out if you can borrow that coin he tossed.

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  • Start johnny football. Remember how russel wilsons struggled almost his entire rookie season, if we have to go through that go through it. We drafted him in the 1st round so lets get him all the experience. Throw him in the fire vs pittsburgh

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