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  • Why is it that just about every commentator (and anyone else with a football brain) knew that the 2 series alternating was a bad idea well before this disaster ever started? He should have kept his word to JM at a fair shot with the 1's both in practice and in game 2 just as he did for Hoyer in game 1.

    I said before the game the decision had already been made for Hoyer. This was a setup to make that decision palatable for Browns fans. Unfortunately it backfired since Hoyer had a bad game as well.

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  • Hoyer should still start but the window is much closer than I thought.

  • Agree with those who say the eventual starter needs reps. He'll, even Earnhardt Jr said it. Both of our QBs are not getting enough time with the receivers or the offense they're running. Hoyer and Manziel are 2 different types of QBs and the rest of the team and the coaches have to have time to adjust to them. Name a starter and go with him.

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  • C cuwoohio

    Agree with those who say the eventual starter needs reps. He'll, even Earnhardt Jr said it. Both of our QBs are not getting enough time with the receivers or the offense they're running. Hoyer and Manziel are 2 different types of QBs and the rest of the team and the coaches have to have time to adjust to them. Name a starter and go with him.

    @cuwoohio said:

    Agree with those who say the eventual starter needs reps. He'll, even Earnhardt Jr said it. Both of our QBs are not getting enough time with the receivers or the offense they're running. Hoyer and Manziel are 2 different types of QBs and the rest of the team and the coaches have to have time to adjust to them. Name a starter and go with him.

    This shoulda been done two months ago.

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.

  • Honestly, I'm not sold on Hoyer as the starter. We're basing his worth on 2 games last year and the 1st game was not pretty. I say go with JF and let the pieces fall where they may. Note, I said Johnny Football, not the guy the coaches are trying to mold into John Manziel.

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  • C cuwoohio

    Honestly, I'm not sold on Hoyer as the starter. We're basing his worth on 2 games last year and the 1st game was not pretty. I say go with JF and let the pieces fall where they may. Note, I said Johnny Football, not the guy the coaches are trying to mold into John Manziel.

    @cuwoohio said:

    Honestly, I'm not sold on Hoyer as the starter. We're basing his worth on 2 games last year and the 1st game was not pretty. I say go with JF and let the pieces fall where they may. Note, I said Johnny Football, not the guy the coaches are trying to mold into John Manziel.

    Only upside to this would be figuring out quicker if hes the guy. But no development comes from it.

    I dont want to be sitting in First Energy Field and get the bird from JF just because im booing him after he just threw his 3rd int of the half.

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
  • C cuwoohio

    Honestly, I'm not sold on Hoyer as the starter. We're basing his worth on 2 games last year and the 1st game was not pretty. I say go with JF and let the pieces fall where they may. Note, I said Johnny Football, not the guy the coaches are trying to mold into John Manziel.

    @cuwoohio said:

    Honestly, I'm not sold on Hoyer as the starter. We're basing his worth on 2 games last year and the 1st game was not pretty. I say go with JF and let the pieces fall where they may. Note, I said Johnny Football, not the guy the coaches are trying to mold into John Manziel.

    The problem with JF starting at this point is that he isn't Andrew Luck. He isn't close to being ready.

    He has major happy-feet. Several times last night, with a strong pocket he started dancing and I lost

    count of the throws he made off his back foot. He has to learn to go through his progressions, step up

    int the pocket and deliver the ball with authority.

  • C cuwoohio

    Honestly, I'm not sold on Hoyer as the starter. We're basing his worth on 2 games last year and the 1st game was not pretty. I say go with JF and let the pieces fall where they may. Note, I said Johnny Football, not the guy the coaches are trying to mold into John Manziel.

    @cuwoohio said:

    Honestly, I'm not sold on Hoyer as the starter. We're basing his worth on 2 games last year and the 1st game was not pretty. I say go with JF and let the pieces fall where they may. Note, I said Johnny Football, not the guy the coaches are trying to mold into John Manziel.

    I don't think anyone is sold but with the early bye you can still do exactly what you're talking about while giving him another month to develop.

  • I think I see now why they kicked Bernie Kosar off the broadcast team. Hed have a field day with JF, Hoyer and these WRs

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
  • C cuwoohio

    Honestly, I'm not sold on Hoyer as the starter. We're basing his worth on 2 games last year and the 1st game was not pretty. I say go with JF and let the pieces fall where they may. Note, I said Johnny Football, not the guy the coaches are trying to mold into John Manziel.

    @cuwoohio said:

    Honestly, I'm not sold on Hoyer as the starter. We're basing his worth on 2 games last year and the 1st game was not pretty. I say go with JF and let the pieces fall where they may. Note, I said Johnny Football, not the guy the coaches are trying to mold into John Manziel.

    When are people going to get it.

    Johnny Football is a style that can only work in the back yard, highschool and college.

    The improvise shit that folks throw around all predraft is nothing but a product of chaos football and a superior supporting cast. He tried to dance and run yesterday without much success. He was chased down from BEHIND by a 3rd STRING DE yesterday.

  • Call Romeo Crennel and find out if you can borrow that coin he tossed.

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  • Start johnny football. Remember how russel wilsons struggled almost his entire rookie season, if we have to go through that go through it. We drafted him in the 1st round so lets get him all the experience. Throw him in the fire vs pittsburgh

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  • I don't remember how Russell Wilson struggled at all? He had 3k yards 25 plus tds and 10 ints.

  • All pettine has shown Me so far is hes a nincompoop.

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~

  • It was a dumb move to say a deadline in the first place. You have the owner trying to shove Manziel down Pettine's throat and you have a new HC who wasn't first, Second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth choice that might be in over his head.

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  • B BrownsFanatic

    Start johnny football. Remember how russel wilsons struggled almost his entire rookie season, if we have to go through that go through it. We drafted him in the 1st round so lets get him all the experience. Throw him in the fire vs pittsburgh

    @brownsfanatic said:

    Start johnny football. Remember how russel wilsons struggled almost his entire rookie season, if we have to go through that go through it. We drafted him in the 1st round so lets get him all the experience. Throw him in the fire vs pittsburgh

    Russell Wilson has brains , something that Manziel is missing which is why he can never be compared to Russell.

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  • B BrownsFanatic

    Start johnny football. Remember how russel wilsons struggled almost his entire rookie season, if we have to go through that go through it. We drafted him in the 1st round so lets get him all the experience. Throw him in the fire vs pittsburgh

    @brownsfanatic said:

    Start johnny football. Remember how russel wilsons struggled almost his entire rookie season, if we have to go through that go through it. We drafted him in the 1st round so lets get him all the experience. Throw him in the fire vs pittsburgh

    Are you talking about Seattles Russell Wilson? Cause his rookie year he struggled for 3,000 yrds, 26tds:10ints, with a 100 rating.....Oh and he almost carried the Seahawks past Atlanta to the NFC Championship game by himself. And if Im not mistaking his 2nd year was about the same as his rookie season give or take a 100 yrds and a int or 2

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.

  • I say make the Muskrat the number 1 QB right now. I wouldn't have said that if Hoyer looked at least a little competent the last 2 games. He's been awful. We'll go 0-3 with Hoyer back there, and Johnny STILL won't be getting first team reps.

    Can we admit this season looks like a wash anyways?? Anyone predicting playoffs here?

    The only bad thing that can happen is Johnny gets overwhelmed, loses all confidence, and goes and hides in his turtle shell.

    Well....then man-up, buttercup. The NFL is incredibly hard. This was why people were kind of hoping he wouldn't fly away to another town to party every weekend, and actually take this job seriously.

    Peyton Manning....Troy Aikman.....absolutely awful first years. They didn't pack it up and quit. They both ended up being pretty damn good.

  • I look at who would be the biggest risk of turning the ball over. Johnny Foosball is that risk. Twice last night he had passes that could have been seen as pick 6's.

    Hoyer has more game experience, seen the complexities of the NFL and provides the best chance to win. No rookie is walking in front of a Dick Lebeau defense with a penchant for scrambling then living to talk about it.

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    Hoyer should Start without having to look over his shoulder prematurly. (Which he has been doing from the start of camp). Take away all the dropped passes by WRs for both QBs and this "compitition" isnt even close. I watch Redskins 2nd string wrs do 360's on the dead run to catch a ball thrown way behind them, as well as the ones that hit them in the numbers.

    When Hoyer came in the second time last night after the 2nd pick. He hit Gordon in stride in the numbers with one guy to beat for a TD or at least to be on the doorstep. (Dropped) And then Hawkins drops an easy TD pass. And dont give me shit about it was behind him. Thats a Fucking Loser Statement. That throw was only where he could caught it we paid him decent money to make those catches. ( Every throw isnt going to be on a TEE)

    Hoyers inaccuarcies are less than that of JF and thats just a fact.

    @cdl15 said:

    Hoyer should Start without having to look over his shoulder prematurly. (Which he has been doing from the start of camp). Take away all the dropped passes by WRs for both QBs and this "compitition" isnt even close. I watch Redskins 2nd string wrs do 360's on the dead run to catch a ball thrown way behind them, as well as the ones that hit them in the numbers.

    When Hoyer came in the second time last night after the 2nd pick. He hit Gordon in stride in the numbers with one guy to beat for a TD or at least to be on the doorstep. (Dropped) And then Hawkins drops an easy TD pass. And dont give me shit about it was behind him. Thats a Fucking Loser Statement. That throw was only where he could caught it we paid him decent money to make those catches. ( Every throw isnt going to be on a TEE)

    Hoyers inaccuarcies are less than that of JF and thats just a fact.

    all i've heard is how hoyer has 6 years under his belt, hoyer was starting last year..., hoyer should start this year....blah blah blah.....hoyer stunk up the joint last night.....stunk the first game too.....and he's had all the advantages that go with getting most of the first team reps.....hoyer has proven he isn't up to it.....and that's just a fact...!!!

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