Hoyer named starting QB
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You're going a bit far saying Newton is great from the pocket. Beyond his rookie year and Smitty bailing out some of his questionable throws - the NFL adjusted and he has regressed since.
There is nothing special about kaep's passing ability. He's actually well below average. He just happens to play with a loaded Oline. San Fransisco and Seattle ranked 29th and 30th in passing. A dominant ground game and defense goes a long way. RG3 is still a work in progress. But he's glass and his best asset is still his legs.
If you think you can run the fun and gun with JM in today's NFL then I'd encourage you to lay off the peyote.
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Mary Kay Cabot @MaryKayCabot 2h#browns said Manziel will finish the first half Thurs night vs bears, maybe play into 3rd. Hoyer will start and prob play less than quarter
It's no secret that I'm far from a Johhny Fanboy, but man, I sure hope he continues to improve while looking more comfortable with each snap. I thought he looked better Saturday than he did the game before, and if he makes similar gains this week I will be pretty happy.
Don't even get me started about Hoyer. I'll just say there's no where to go but up. (hopefully)
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Yes, Manziel looked better. He was also given several high percentage throws and didn't quite bail after his first read. I"m a bit shocked myself on the TD scramble because the Rams sent zero pressure.
However his internal clock is going to take some time. He rushes himself when there isn't heat and doesn't sense is when its coming. As evidenced from the Sam sack. He's got a long way to go in feeling the pocket which, aside from accuracy might be the most important trait in a QB.
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Yes, Manziel looked better. He was also given several high percentage throws and didn't quite bail after his first read. I"m a bit shocked myself on the TD scramble because the Rams sent zero pressure.
However his internal clock is going to take some time. He rushes himself when there isn't heat and doesn't sense is when its coming. As evidenced from the Sam sack. He's got a long way to go in feeling the pocket which, aside from accuracy might be the most important trait in a QB.
Yes, Manziel looked better. He was also given several high percentage throws and didn't quite bail after his first read. I"m a bit shocked myself on the TD scramble because the Rams sent zero pressure.
However his internal clock is going to take some time. He rushes himself when there isn't heat and doesn't sense is when its coming. As evidenced from the Sam sack. He's got a long way to go in feeling the pocket which, aside from accuracy might be the most important trait in a QB.
Sam wasn't even blocked on that play.
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After Shurmur and Chud, it's nice to finally have a coach that has balls big enough to make the tough decisions. He did not bow to media and fan pressure.
Hey, it's his a$$ and his job that is on the line here. And I think he simply choose the "man" he trusted to lead his troops, as opposed to the one the TMZ/ESPN/FOX world wanted. He would have been a fool to do otherwise.......(shurmur woulda buckled by now)
And so much for all the rumors about Haslam calling the shots on who starts...eh?
He did not bow to media and fan pressure.
... yet as far as the media is concerned it is as if nothing has changed...
Loved the "Manziel vs. Sam" promo prior to Saturday nite's game...
And, really, that was my point....Young became a superstar when he stopped playing running back and started playing like a real NFL quarterback.....He didn't have to rely on his legs or running, because he could beat you with his arm and brain.....
Got cha... it was the grouping that threw me...
Young made an appearance on NFL Live last week and had some advice for JM based upon his experience in making that transition. It was more or less to loop this mantra in his mind:
"Stay in the pocket... Stay in the pocket... Stay in the pocket..."
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he sure earned it....not....hoyer sucks.....now the browns get to lose their first three games......
so you reward the hometown sweetheart who played like shit.....oh yeah, that makes sense....
he sure earned it....not....hoyer sucks.....now the browns get to lose their first three games......
so you reward the hometown sweetheart who played like shit.....oh yeah, that makes sense....
I would like to see Johnny Scramble play in some packages on opening day, especially against the PIT defense which is a work-in-progress. I see that game a a "pick-em" anyways, so CLE would clearly benefit from forcing PIT to have to deal with two different QB's.
CLE was unfortuanate to have not played PIT early last season when PIT was terrible, now CLE has a chance coz PIT does not have their act together yet.
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on the bright side, after the disaster against the rams, hoyer and the offense can only improve against the bears....so i expect a better showing.....if not, damn, the browns are in trouble.....
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No running qb's !? Have you been watching football? Vick before jail, cunningham, elway, young, tarkington, kaeparnik, newton, rg3, only some of the best in any era.
Manziel's individual accomplishments in college Dwarfed what any of those guys did. His 3rd and 4th down conversion rate in college was over TWICE what any of those guys ever did. He's got unique abilities. If you arent going to try to use any of them you shouldnt draft him. So far the team is deliberately avoiding using them. There is no point in starting him or keeping him on the team. If all you want is a guy to stand tall in a tight pocket and throw a quick out he's not your man.
No running qb's !? Have you been watching football? Vick before jail, cunningham, elway, young, tarkington, kaeparnik, newton, rg3, only some of the best in any era.
Manziel's individual accomplishments in college Dwarfed what any of those guys did. His 3rd and 4th down conversion rate in college was over TWICE what any of those guys ever did. He's got unique abilities. If you arent going to try to use any of them you shouldnt draft him. So far the team is deliberately avoiding using them. There is no point in starting him or keeping him on the team. If all you want is a guy to stand tall in a tight pocket and throw a quick out he's not your man.
Um, it's wasn't us morons- it was a bunch of pro scouts that questioned if "his unique abilities" would translate to the NFL. One ability JFF is going to have to learn is to look for secondary receivers in his route tree when his primary is covered- which he's still not very good at yet. He will NOT have the luxury of scrambling around for 10 seconds like he did at A&M looking for someone to get open when the coverages finally break down. BECAUSE.
"Running quarterbacks" tend to have a rather short shelf life in the NFL. RG III has been busted up once. Manziel has already figured out he isn't 1\2 as elusive in the pros as he was in college. I've already seen linebackers that can match his speed, and I can guarantee you 98% of pro CBs, and 70% of the safeties could beat him in a 40. FYI, Manziel isn't even the fastest qb on the Browns- Shaw posted a better 40 at the combine.
It's fanboys like you that make some of us wish we hadn't drafted him.
GTFO of here.
I see we have a new Manzealot in our midst. He'll have as short a leash as some of the departed ones DieHard.
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