Gilbert

WalterWhite

@thenew23 said:

Clowney... what a waste he got hurt

Bortles... sucks cant even beat Henne

Gilbert... next stop, Hall of Fame

Now you're just trolling because nobody can be this mentally Retarded. Justin Gilbert sucks.

WalterWhite

Way to get your hands up you fucking bum. He's not even trying. He didn't even turn around.

LogicIsForSquares

Walt, I hope if you have kids that they were born knowing how to ride a bike. Otherwise, they are in for a tough time.

"You worthless faggot! You can't already pop wheelies!? You should have been fucking aborted!"

thenew23

@thenew23 said:

Clowney... what a waste he got hurt

Bortles... sucks cant even beat Henne

Gilbert... next stop, Hall of Fame

Oh and how about your boy Watkins? He must suck too bc he didnt do sh** Sunday

LogicIsForSquares

I don't have all the Gilbert optimism but give the guy time to be evaluated.

thenew23

@walterwhite said:

Now you're just trolling because nobody can be this mentally Retarded. Justin Gilbert sucks.

Your a genious ?.

Its so easy its hard not to with some people... When emotions are over-the-top, logic goes out the window

WalterWhite

@thenew23 said:
Oh and how about your boy Watkins? He must suck too bc he didnt do sh** Sunday

Except for WIN which is more than I can say for that FUCKING BUM Gilbert who lost us the game.

Watkins: 3 catches for 31 yards

Gilbert: 5 missed tackles and his receiver caught 6 passes for 97 yards.

I'll take Watkins all fucking day over that bum.

WalterWhite

@thenew23 said:
Your a genious .

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH oh the irony.

It's you're not your dumbass.

WalterWhite

@logicisforsquares said:
I don't have all the Gilbert optimism but give the guy time to be evaluated.

Here's the problem... I understand CB is a tough transition but Fuller, Varrett, and Roby are all showing promise.

Gilbert got torched by 3rd stringers all preseason long and got his ass handed to him Sunday. It was a Brandon Weeden like debut.

He isn't getting in the same area as the receivers he's covering.

LogicIsForSquares

Oh he definitely shit the fucking bed. I am just willing to not write him off immediately. If he still looks like Corky out there at mid season, I will be with all the other naysayers.

WalterWhite

Here's the problem Logic...

Watch him on the fake punt, not only does he get burnt, he fucking wiffs, then he tries to tackle him like a 6th grader.

Gilbert is afraid of contact and at this level, I don't think tackling should be something you have to learn. He's a bad player and I don't see him panning out at all. Ever. He pussies away from contact.

I'm happy with all of our other picks (West, Bitonio, Kirskey, Manziel, etc..)

But Gilbert is so fucking bad. He's literally an F- right now.

hoorta

@walterwhite said:

Here's the problem Logic...

Watch him on the fake punt, not only does he get burnt, he fucking wiffs, then he tries to tackle him like a 6th grader.

Gilbert is afraid of contact and at this level, I don't think tackling should be something you have to learn. He's a bad player and I don't see him panning out at all. Ever. He pussies away from contact.

I'm happy with all of our other picks (West, Bitonio, Kirskey, Manziel, etc..)

But Gilbert is so fucking bad. He's literally an F- right now.

Walter, I agree, Gilbert has looked terrible up to this point- he has to learn how to defend when the ball is in the air or about to be caught. You forget about his 40 time at the combine? Sub 4.4 speed can't be taught, and that's why he was a first round pick. His tackling ability (rather lack of) in college was duly noted by none other than Ray Farmer.

Hell, Denard was a first round pick of the Bengals, and he's buried on the depth chart behind Father Time Jones and a crippled Kirkpatrick.

So maybe, just maybe Pettine is seeing we pushed Gilbert too far, too fast. One regular season game is far too small a sample size to label a first round pick a bust.

JPPT1974

Hopefully he can learn from the sidelines. And win his job back by doing so.

RoyceRolls

Maybe the colts will trade a first round pick for him next year...

WalterWhite

@roycerolls said:
Maybe the colts will trade a first round pick for him next year...

We had a choice of Sammy Watkins, Kahlil Mack, Jake Matthews, and we took fucking Gilbert.

You see, these trade downs aren't worth it if you don't pick the right player.

In 2011, we skipped on Julio Jones and JJ Watt for Phil Taylor, Greg Little, and Brandon Weeden in 2012.

I would rather have Watt or Jones straight up than any of those bad to average players.

If Gilbert the Bills 1st pick in 2015 doesn't pan out, and Watkins does it's a total fucking failure.

I'd rather have Watkins, Mack, or Matthews than Gilbert.

Trading down is only good if snag the right player.

RoyceRolls

It seems that you're getting waaaayyyy too worked up over a guy who only played one game in the league. If you keep going at this pace you'll be put on a daily aspirin regiment before the bye week...

WalterWhite

I want Gilbert to be a monster but I've seen this movie before.

He's afraid to hit. He's afraid make contact. He slips way too much. He's 10 yards away from every receiver he covers.

Mudfly

@walterwhite said:

We had a choice of Sammy Watkins, Kahlil Mack, Jake Matthews, and we took fucking Gilbert.

And another #1 pick.... Weve played just ONE game and have NO CLUE who that other pick will bring us, yet you are yammering on and on like a psychopath......take a pill man

In 2011, we skipped on Julio Jones and JJ Watt for Phil Taylor, Greg Little, and Brandon Weeden in 2012.

Holy cow.....you're still ranting about picks from 3 years ago??!!.....EVEN after ALL the people who made them are fired.....??

I would rather have Watt or Jones straight up than any of those bad to average players.

A 5 year old could back on drafts and pick the "right players".....this is a very tired and weak arguement

If Gilbert the Bills 1st pick in 2015 doesn't pan out, and Watkins does it's a total fucking failure.

So, why dont you wait a fukkin minute and ACTUALLY SEE if it pans out....??? I can tell you people in Buffalo wish they had that pick back..

Trading down is only good if snag the right player.

So far, it looks like Farmer nailed the draft and all your whining is wasted breath. So, it's too early to make ANY whiny statements like this yet.....you're probably the same guy who threw in the whole season after one series or by the second practice or something....

Life must suck being so miserable and down sighted all the time. Why do you even bother to follow the team??.....seriously...

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tiamat63

Again, Gilbert's two biggest issues are opening his hips early and as pointed out, "thinking" about what he's seeing instead of the instinct of knowing and driving on the ball.

He's seen more reps in his first game then Haden did in his first as a pro. I think limiting his snaps is a wise idea. Get him in the film room, let him learn the nuances of not only CB but also WR.

This will allow him to translate what he's seeing on the field into action as opposed to reaction while helping build his confidence.

thenew23

The other rookie DBs you've pointed out have been playing against 3rd and 4th receivers... It's simple... you can't count on a rookie CB as your starter on the outside. He's going to get burned from time-to-time. Pettine and co. saw size, speed, and great promise, but they gave him too much in game 1. Now he gets scaled back, and guys like Berry and Skrine get to play a little more while Gilbert develops. It's really not the end of the world... Now, at the end of the 2015 season if I'm saying the same sh**, then get on me...