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  • Z Zombo

    Ok, so we beat one of the most talented, best coached teams in the nfl today so ...

    I dont know else to say other than "The Mike Pettine era is going well"

    No Gordon, No Cameron, No Mingo, No Tate .. we were better ...does anybody else feel like ... FINALLY!

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    Zombo said:

    we were better ...does anybody else feel like ... FINALLY!

    Don't go getting all high and stupid on me Zippy, I'll pull the swivel chair out from under ya.

    I'm back to make sure you guys aren't getting all giddy and gay.

    Act like you've been here before (1-1 ... geesh)

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      Is your favorite movie Grumpy Old Men?

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        @walterwhite said:

        I'm not bashing Haden but that dude is one of the highest paid CB's in the NFL and he gets smoked a lot.

        Sorry, I just call it as I see it.

        He IS very well paid, but he isn't worth it

        I was at the game and he CAN NOT cover anyone bigger then him.

        When the Saints needed a big play, they looked to see who Haden was covering, and they threw that way

        Haden got burned atleast 6 times, he made 2 plays

        Not what I would call a shutdown cb

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        @browns149 said:

        He IS very well paid, but he isn't worth it

        I was at the game and he CAN NOT cover anyone bigger then him.

        When the Saints needed a big play, they looked to see who Haden was covering, and they threw that way

        Haden got burned atleast 6 times, he made 2 plays

        Not what I would call a shutdown cb

        Grahm is 6'7 and no one in the league can cover him. Didn't Haden completely shut down AJ Green last year? I think the only receiver I can think of that normally dominates him is Brown. Thats one receiver out of all of them.

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          Is your favorite movie Grumpy Old Men?

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          @d-bone said:

          Is your favorite movie Grumpy Old Men?

          0-1 in the Division.

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            @d-bone said:

            Is your favorite movie Grumpy Old Men?

            0-1 in the Division.

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            @atenears said:

            0-1 in the Division.

            Code for "Yes, why yes it is!"

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              @browns149 said:

              He IS very well paid, but he isn't worth it

              I was at the game and he CAN NOT cover anyone bigger then him.

              When the Saints needed a big play, they looked to see who Haden was covering, and they threw that way

              Haden got burned atleast 6 times, he made 2 plays

              Not what I would call a shutdown cb

              Grahm is 6'7 and no one in the league can cover him. Didn't Haden completely shut down AJ Green last year? I think the only receiver I can think of that normally dominates him is Brown. Thats one receiver out of all of them.

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              @harry-buffalo said:

              Grahm is 6'7 and no one in the league can cover him. Didn't Haden completely shut down AJ Green last year? I think the only receiver I can think of that normally dominates him is Brown. Thats one receiver out of all of them.

              Agree... historically Haden has played tall WRs very well.

              Besides the red zone plays, how many times was Haden matched up with Graham?

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                @browns149 said:

                He IS very well paid, but he isn't worth it

                I was at the game and he CAN NOT cover anyone bigger then him.

                When the Saints needed a big play, they looked to see who Haden was covering, and they threw that way

                Haden got burned atleast 6 times, he made 2 plays

                Not what I would call a shutdown cb

                Grahm is 6'7 and no one in the league can cover him. Didn't Haden completely shut down AJ Green last year? I think the only receiver I can think of that normally dominates him is Brown. Thats one receiver out of all of them.

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                @harry-buffalo said:

                Grahm is 6'7 and no one in the league can cover him. Didn't Haden completely shut down AJ Green last year? I think the only receiver I can think of that normally dominates him is Brown. Thats one receiver out of all of them.

                Haden had a chance to stop a RB for a 1 yard loss on 3rd and 1, and he failed. Haden got picked on all day.

                The Saints made sure Haden was on Graham, because they knew Haden couldn't cover him.

                So-called shutdown CB, don't get picked on like Haden does.

                Haden is a good CB, but he is nowhere near a shutdown CB.

                So-called shutdown CB's either make plays or they don't get thrown against, and Joe Haden isn't either. Teams LOOK to throw on him, and they make plays against him all day..

                "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                  @harry-buffalo said:

                  Grahm is 6'7 and no one in the league can cover him. Didn't Haden completely shut down AJ Green last year? I think the only receiver I can think of that normally dominates him is Brown. Thats one receiver out of all of them.

                  Haden had a chance to stop a RB for a 1 yard loss on 3rd and 1, and he failed. Haden got picked on all day.

                  The Saints made sure Haden was on Graham, because they knew Haden couldn't cover him.

                  So-called shutdown CB, don't get picked on like Haden does.

                  Haden is a good CB, but he is nowhere near a shutdown CB.

                  So-called shutdown CB's either make plays or they don't get thrown against, and Joe Haden isn't either. Teams LOOK to throw on him, and they make plays against him all day..

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                  @browns149 said:

                  Haden had a chance to stop a RB for a 1 yard loss on 3rd and 1, and he failed. Haden got picked on all day.

                  The Saints made sure Haden was on Graham, because they knew Haden couldn't cover him.

                  So-called shutdown CB, don't get picked on like Haden does.

                  Haden is a good CB, but he is nowhere near a shutdown CB.

                  So-called shutdown CB's either make plays or they don't get thrown against, and Joe Haden isn't either. Teams LOOK to throw on him, and they make plays against him all day..

                  Sherman got picked on today, and he's the undisputed best corner in the league.

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                    WalterWhiteW WalterWhite wrote on last edited by
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                    Haden is good but you're fooling yourself if you think he's elite.

                    He gets burned a lot and anyone who can't see it is uh... visually impaired.

                    Today was a great game, but Joe needs to tighten up against some of these better WR's

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                      Haden is good but you're fooling yourself if you think he's elite.

                      He gets burned a lot and anyone who can't see it is uh... visually impaired.

                      Today was a great game, but Joe needs to tighten up against some of these better WR's

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                      @walterwhite said:

                      Haden is good but you're fooling yourself if you think he's elite.

                      He gets burned a lot and anyone who can't see it is uh... visually impaired.

                      Today was a great game, but Joe needs to tighten up against some of these better WR's

                      EXACTLY

                      I never said he was aweful. He's a good cb

                      But he sure is NOT a lock down guy

                      Joe Haden was picked on today more then Buster Skrine was, or our rookie cb was.

                      "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                        He hardly played in preseason, give him a chance to get his sea legs

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                          @harry-buffalo said:

                          Grahm is 6'7 and no one in the league can cover him. Didn't Haden completely shut down AJ Green last year? I think the only receiver I can think of that normally dominates him is Brown. Thats one receiver out of all of them.

                          Haden had a chance to stop a RB for a 1 yard loss on 3rd and 1, and he failed. Haden got picked on all day.

                          The Saints made sure Haden was on Graham, because they knew Haden couldn't cover him.

                          So-called shutdown CB, don't get picked on like Haden does.

                          Haden is a good CB, but he is nowhere near a shutdown CB.

                          So-called shutdown CB's either make plays or they don't get thrown against, and Joe Haden isn't either. Teams LOOK to throw on him, and they make plays against him all day..

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                          Haden had a chance to stop a RB for a 1 yard loss on 3rd and 1, and he failed.

                          I wouldn't blame him for that, he had a tough angle on that tackle to stop the back on a dime. He made a couple big pops early on in the initial drives. He doesn't shy away from contact and isn't one of those DB's that leaps on the pile hoping to get credit for a partial tackle. He has good feet and can blanket receivers at times. He may have struggled today because of the whole hand check officiating. Probably would have preferred to play in front of Graham and hold one of his hands/arms down like the recent years, but played behind him as to not give up any big plays. The Saints had to work for all their yardage today, it's not like we got torched for quick strikes and big plays.

                          Let Haden do his job, think it is still early to call him out in this differently officiated season for DB's.

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                            On a positive note, Gilbert's name wasn't brought up today for getting burned. I know he got dinged for a few plays, and don't know how many plays he was in for, but it seemed like an improvement to me.

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                              @browns149 said:

                              Haden had a chance to stop a RB for a 1 yard loss on 3rd and 1, and he failed.

                              I wouldn't blame him for that, he had a tough angle on that tackle to stop the back on a dime. He made a couple big pops early on in the initial drives. He doesn't shy away from contact and isn't one of those DB's that leaps on the pile hoping to get credit for a partial tackle. He has good feet and can blanket receivers at times. He may have struggled today because of the whole hand check officiating. Probably would have preferred to play in front of Graham and hold one of his hands/arms down like the recent years, but played behind him as to not give up any big plays. The Saints had to work for all their yardage today, it's not like we got torched for quick strikes and big plays.

                              Let Haden do his job, think it is still early to call him out in this differently officiated season for DB's.

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                              @atenears said:

                              I wouldn't blame him for that, he had a tough angle on that tackle to stop the back on a dime. He made a couple big pops early on in the initial drives. He doesn't shy away from contact and isn't one of those DB's that leaps on the pile hoping to get credit for a partial tackle. He has good feet and can blanket receivers at times. He may have struggled today because of the whole hand check officiating. Probably would have preferred to play in front of Graham and hold one of his hands/arms down like the recent years, but played behind him as to not give up any big plays. The Saints had to work for all their yardage today, it's not like we got torched for quick strikes and big plays.

                              Let Haden do his job, think it is still early to call him out in this differently officiated season for DB's.

                              I do blame him for that. He hit the guy with his helmet, lowered his head and didn't wrap the guy up.

                              "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                                @browns149 said:

                                Haden had a chance to stop a RB for a 1 yard loss on 3rd and 1, and he failed.

                                I wouldn't blame him for that, he had a tough angle on that tackle to stop the back on a dime. He made a couple big pops early on in the initial drives. He doesn't shy away from contact and isn't one of those DB's that leaps on the pile hoping to get credit for a partial tackle. He has good feet and can blanket receivers at times. He may have struggled today because of the whole hand check officiating. Probably would have preferred to play in front of Graham and hold one of his hands/arms down like the recent years, but played behind him as to not give up any big plays. The Saints had to work for all their yardage today, it's not like we got torched for quick strikes and big plays.

                                Let Haden do his job, think it is still early to call him out in this differently officiated season for DB's.

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                                I wouldn't blame him for that, he had a tough angle on that tackle to stop the back on a dime. He made a couple big pops early on in the initial drives. He doesn't shy away from contact and isn't one of those DB's that leaps on the pile hoping to get credit for a partial tackle. He has good feet and can blanket receivers at times. He may have struggled today because of the whole hand check officiating. Probably would have preferred to play in front of Graham and hold one of his hands/arms down like the recent years, but played behind him as to not give up any big plays. The Saints had to work for all their yardage today, it's not like we got torched for quick strikes and big plays.

                                Let Haden do his job, think it is still early to call him out in this differently officiated season for DB's.

                                No one on either team got called for DB holding,touching, grabbing.

                                I was at the game and I sit in the endzone. I can and do watch the DB play,,,,,,,,, Joe Haden gets picked on more then ANY DB on our team

                                "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                                  ...um I hate pointing this out and all, since I'm a "who the fuck are you" person, but Hoyer is 5-1 as a starter for our team. That's beyond fucking huge!!!!!!!!!¡¡!!!!!!!!!!

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                                    ...and Gilbert played awesome!!

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                                      Tj ward couldn't defend the pass very well. And he missed a lot of tackles but I was still sorry to lose him

                                      Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                        Haden gave up some disappointing plays. He wasn't great vs Graham or Antonio brown

                                        Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                          Big to be fair rivers crushed Sherman today too. No CB is infallible

                                          Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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