Observations from today's game.
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I'm not bashing Haden but that dude is one of the highest paid CB's in the NFL and he gets smoked a lot.
Sorry, I just call it as I see it.
He IS very well paid, but he isn't worth it
I was at the game and he CAN NOT cover anyone bigger then him.
When the Saints needed a big play, they looked to see who Haden was covering, and they threw that way
Haden got burned atleast 6 times, he made 2 plays
Not what I would call a shutdown cb
He IS very well paid, but he isn't worth it
I was at the game and he CAN NOT cover anyone bigger then him.
When the Saints needed a big play, they looked to see who Haden was covering, and they threw that way
Haden got burned atleast 6 times, he made 2 plays
Not what I would call a shutdown cb
Grahm is 6'7 and no one in the league can cover him. Didn't Haden completely shut down AJ Green last year? I think the only receiver I can think of that normally dominates him is Brown. Thats one receiver out of all of them.
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He IS very well paid, but he isn't worth it
I was at the game and he CAN NOT cover anyone bigger then him.
When the Saints needed a big play, they looked to see who Haden was covering, and they threw that way
Haden got burned atleast 6 times, he made 2 plays
Not what I would call a shutdown cb
Grahm is 6'7 and no one in the league can cover him. Didn't Haden completely shut down AJ Green last year? I think the only receiver I can think of that normally dominates him is Brown. Thats one receiver out of all of them.
Grahm is 6'7 and no one in the league can cover him. Didn't Haden completely shut down AJ Green last year? I think the only receiver I can think of that normally dominates him is Brown. Thats one receiver out of all of them.
Agree... historically Haden has played tall WRs very well.
Besides the red zone plays, how many times was Haden matched up with Graham?
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He IS very well paid, but he isn't worth it
I was at the game and he CAN NOT cover anyone bigger then him.
When the Saints needed a big play, they looked to see who Haden was covering, and they threw that way
Haden got burned atleast 6 times, he made 2 plays
Not what I would call a shutdown cb
Grahm is 6'7 and no one in the league can cover him. Didn't Haden completely shut down AJ Green last year? I think the only receiver I can think of that normally dominates him is Brown. Thats one receiver out of all of them.
Grahm is 6'7 and no one in the league can cover him. Didn't Haden completely shut down AJ Green last year? I think the only receiver I can think of that normally dominates him is Brown. Thats one receiver out of all of them.
Haden had a chance to stop a RB for a 1 yard loss on 3rd and 1, and he failed. Haden got picked on all day.
The Saints made sure Haden was on Graham, because they knew Haden couldn't cover him.
So-called shutdown CB, don't get picked on like Haden does.
Haden is a good CB, but he is nowhere near a shutdown CB.
So-called shutdown CB's either make plays or they don't get thrown against, and Joe Haden isn't either. Teams LOOK to throw on him, and they make plays against him all day..
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
Grahm is 6'7 and no one in the league can cover him. Didn't Haden completely shut down AJ Green last year? I think the only receiver I can think of that normally dominates him is Brown. Thats one receiver out of all of them.
Haden had a chance to stop a RB for a 1 yard loss on 3rd and 1, and he failed. Haden got picked on all day.
The Saints made sure Haden was on Graham, because they knew Haden couldn't cover him.
So-called shutdown CB, don't get picked on like Haden does.
Haden is a good CB, but he is nowhere near a shutdown CB.
So-called shutdown CB's either make plays or they don't get thrown against, and Joe Haden isn't either. Teams LOOK to throw on him, and they make plays against him all day..
Haden had a chance to stop a RB for a 1 yard loss on 3rd and 1, and he failed. Haden got picked on all day.
The Saints made sure Haden was on Graham, because they knew Haden couldn't cover him.
So-called shutdown CB, don't get picked on like Haden does.
Haden is a good CB, but he is nowhere near a shutdown CB.
So-called shutdown CB's either make plays or they don't get thrown against, and Joe Haden isn't either. Teams LOOK to throw on him, and they make plays against him all day..
Sherman got picked on today, and he's the undisputed best corner in the league.
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Haden is good but you're fooling yourself if you think he's elite.
He gets burned a lot and anyone who can't see it is uh... visually impaired.
Today was a great game, but Joe needs to tighten up against some of these better WR's
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Haden is good but you're fooling yourself if you think he's elite.
He gets burned a lot and anyone who can't see it is uh... visually impaired.
Today was a great game, but Joe needs to tighten up against some of these better WR's
Haden is good but you're fooling yourself if you think he's elite.
He gets burned a lot and anyone who can't see it is uh... visually impaired.
Today was a great game, but Joe needs to tighten up against some of these better WR's
EXACTLY
I never said he was aweful. He's a good cb
But he sure is NOT a lock down guy
Joe Haden was picked on today more then Buster Skrine was, or our rookie cb was.
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Grahm is 6'7 and no one in the league can cover him. Didn't Haden completely shut down AJ Green last year? I think the only receiver I can think of that normally dominates him is Brown. Thats one receiver out of all of them.
Haden had a chance to stop a RB for a 1 yard loss on 3rd and 1, and he failed. Haden got picked on all day.
The Saints made sure Haden was on Graham, because they knew Haden couldn't cover him.
So-called shutdown CB, don't get picked on like Haden does.
Haden is a good CB, but he is nowhere near a shutdown CB.
So-called shutdown CB's either make plays or they don't get thrown against, and Joe Haden isn't either. Teams LOOK to throw on him, and they make plays against him all day..
Haden had a chance to stop a RB for a 1 yard loss on 3rd and 1, and he failed.
I wouldn't blame him for that, he had a tough angle on that tackle to stop the back on a dime. He made a couple big pops early on in the initial drives. He doesn't shy away from contact and isn't one of those DB's that leaps on the pile hoping to get credit for a partial tackle. He has good feet and can blanket receivers at times. He may have struggled today because of the whole hand check officiating. Probably would have preferred to play in front of Graham and hold one of his hands/arms down like the recent years, but played behind him as to not give up any big plays. The Saints had to work for all their yardage today, it's not like we got torched for quick strikes and big plays.
Let Haden do his job, think it is still early to call him out in this differently officiated season for DB's.
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Haden had a chance to stop a RB for a 1 yard loss on 3rd and 1, and he failed.
I wouldn't blame him for that, he had a tough angle on that tackle to stop the back on a dime. He made a couple big pops early on in the initial drives. He doesn't shy away from contact and isn't one of those DB's that leaps on the pile hoping to get credit for a partial tackle. He has good feet and can blanket receivers at times. He may have struggled today because of the whole hand check officiating. Probably would have preferred to play in front of Graham and hold one of his hands/arms down like the recent years, but played behind him as to not give up any big plays. The Saints had to work for all their yardage today, it's not like we got torched for quick strikes and big plays.
Let Haden do his job, think it is still early to call him out in this differently officiated season for DB's.
I wouldn't blame him for that, he had a tough angle on that tackle to stop the back on a dime. He made a couple big pops early on in the initial drives. He doesn't shy away from contact and isn't one of those DB's that leaps on the pile hoping to get credit for a partial tackle. He has good feet and can blanket receivers at times. He may have struggled today because of the whole hand check officiating. Probably would have preferred to play in front of Graham and hold one of his hands/arms down like the recent years, but played behind him as to not give up any big plays. The Saints had to work for all their yardage today, it's not like we got torched for quick strikes and big plays.
Let Haden do his job, think it is still early to call him out in this differently officiated season for DB's.
I do blame him for that. He hit the guy with his helmet, lowered his head and didn't wrap the guy up.
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
Haden had a chance to stop a RB for a 1 yard loss on 3rd and 1, and he failed.
I wouldn't blame him for that, he had a tough angle on that tackle to stop the back on a dime. He made a couple big pops early on in the initial drives. He doesn't shy away from contact and isn't one of those DB's that leaps on the pile hoping to get credit for a partial tackle. He has good feet and can blanket receivers at times. He may have struggled today because of the whole hand check officiating. Probably would have preferred to play in front of Graham and hold one of his hands/arms down like the recent years, but played behind him as to not give up any big plays. The Saints had to work for all their yardage today, it's not like we got torched for quick strikes and big plays.
Let Haden do his job, think it is still early to call him out in this differently officiated season for DB's.
I wouldn't blame him for that, he had a tough angle on that tackle to stop the back on a dime. He made a couple big pops early on in the initial drives. He doesn't shy away from contact and isn't one of those DB's that leaps on the pile hoping to get credit for a partial tackle. He has good feet and can blanket receivers at times. He may have struggled today because of the whole hand check officiating. Probably would have preferred to play in front of Graham and hold one of his hands/arms down like the recent years, but played behind him as to not give up any big plays. The Saints had to work for all their yardage today, it's not like we got torched for quick strikes and big plays.
Let Haden do his job, think it is still early to call him out in this differently officiated season for DB's.
No one on either team got called for DB holding,touching, grabbing.
I was at the game and I sit in the endzone. I can and do watch the DB play,,,,,,,,, Joe Haden gets picked on more then ANY DB on our team
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
...um I hate pointing this out and all, since I'm a "who the fuck are you" person, but Hoyer is 5-1 as a starter for our team. That's beyond fucking huge!!!!!!!!!¡¡!!!!!!!!!!
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...and Gilbert played awesome!!
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Tj ward couldn't defend the pass very well. And he missed a lot of tackles but I was still sorry to lose him
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Haden gave up some disappointing plays. He wasn't great vs Graham or Antonio brown
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Big to be fair rivers crushed Sherman today too. No CB is infallible
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Big to be fair rivers crushed Sherman today too. No CB is infallible
Big to be fair rivers crushed Sherman today too. No CB is infallible
True, but when has Haden been Great?
He's not the guy that other teams avoid.
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
Grahm is 6'7 and no one in the league can cover him. Didn't Haden completely shut down AJ Green last year? I think the only receiver I can think of that normally dominates him is Brown. Thats one receiver out of all of them.
Haden had a chance to stop a RB for a 1 yard loss on 3rd and 1, and he failed. Haden got picked on all day.
The Saints made sure Haden was on Graham, because they knew Haden couldn't cover him.
So-called shutdown CB, don't get picked on like Haden does.
Haden is a good CB, but he is nowhere near a shutdown CB.
So-called shutdown CB's either make plays or they don't get thrown against, and Joe Haden isn't either. Teams LOOK to throw on him, and they make plays against him all day..
Haden had a chance to stop a RB for a 1 yard loss on 3rd and 1, and he failed. Haden got picked on all day.
The Saints made sure Haden was on Graham, because they knew Haden couldn't cover him.
So-called shutdown CB, don't get picked on like Haden does.
Haden is a good CB, but he is nowhere near a shutdown CB.
So-called shutdown CB's either make plays or they don't get thrown against, and Joe Haden isn't either. Teams LOOK to throw on him, and they make plays against him all day..
Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong...
Haden is a great CB... no questions asked. BUT, every DB is going to have a tough matchup here and there. Same goes with superstars at any position, in any sport. Even the greats get beat once in a while, but it's what they do as a whole that makes all the difference.
Haden was "picked on?" Please. He gave up a couple passes to WRs, but no big plays. He only gave up points to Graham b/c it's a horrible matchup, but Pettine believed if he was going 1-1 against Graham, the only guy he could put on him was Haden. It wasn't the Saints picking on him.
Even Sherman, Revis, Patterson, etc. give up plays from time-to-time. It's the 2nd hardest position in all of sports...
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