Crazy Start to 2014 Season
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Why did this thread deteriorate into a JFF thread?
stan had a plan.
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I just re-watched in slow-mo the pass from JM to Agnew. He threw it as a touch pass to a FB, but Agnew actually caught it with both hands, brought it in and coughed it up on the hit by the DB. So not only was it catchable, it was caught and then dropped. Guess he needs to go to the Jimmy Graham school of "good hands people".
I just re-watched in slow-mo the pass from JM to Agnew. He threw it as a touch pass to a FB, but Agnew actually caught it with both hands, brought it in and coughed it up on the hit by the DB. So not only was it catchable, it was caught and then dropped. Guess he needs to go to the Jimmy Graham school of "good hands people".
Your "touch pass" is my "guided, not cut loose", your "brought" is my "bringing", but we are seeing pretty much the same thing.
Had JM cut it loose, as he can cross-body, it might have been put away before the hit came.
Or bounced off Agnew's face mask...
...I don't know what video you're looking at but JM only threw one pass against the Saints on sunday and it's easy to find the video. Just watched it, don't see any wobble to it but maybe the angle isn't right.
When I first saw it live, I thought it clearly wobbled. Not so much when I re-watched it. But in the replay from the end zone angle it does show up just prior to the ball getting to Agnew. It almost takes a slo-mo look since the ball is not in that shot for most of its travel.
But regardless wobble was not a catch/ no catch factor... velocity, or rather lack thereof, may have been.
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Tour- at the risk of being accused on continuing the thread derailment, my question would be how well does Agnew catch passes that are zipped to him? Reason I ask is that I know from 2 years of watching him that JM definitely held back on that throw. So was he guiding because of who was catching or was he doing it because he was throwing his first pass and was trying to be sure of it?
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Agnew was the same guy JFF didn't want to throw to during one of the preseason games. He passed on a wide open shot in the flat and carried it instead.
Could it be JFF doesnt trust Agnew?? OR couldit be that JFF doesn't see him soon enough? OR could it be that JFF is always trying for the big play and not mature enough(yet) to take the sure yards?
My take on the Agnew drop was that he caught it, had it in his hands and then took a hard hit on the hands before he got the ball wrapped up.
Some credit goes to the defender for a good hit. Some receivers would have held that ball, but a lot would have dropped it too.
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Tour- at the risk of being accused on continuing the thread derailment, my question would be how well does Agnew catch passes that are zipped to him? Reason I ask is that I know from 2 years of watching him that JM definitely held back on that throw. So was he guiding because of who was catching or was he doing it because he was throwing his first pass and was trying to be sure of it?
...or was he doing it because he was throwing his first pass and was trying to be sure of it?
My take on it was that he "aimed it", but other than JM who knows...
Some credit goes to the defender for a good hit. Some receivers would have held that ball, but a lot would have dropped it too.
My take as well... Byrd closed fast and played a very good game.
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what i know about lumbergh vs. mark o was a classic brady queef vs. doofus anderson thing.
can't say more than that.
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Lumbergh was the DA homeboy from Oregon.
You mean PoG, the prequel?
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what i know about lumbergh vs. mark o was a classic brady queef vs. doofus anderson thing.
can't say more than that.
what i know about lumbergh vs. mark o was a classic brady queef vs. doofus anderson thing.
can't say more than that.
Ahhh. Ok, it's not smelly cheese, it's a smelly QB lover.
I wasn't a forum talker then, but I can see it now. A debate about whos better? Quinn or Anderson? Hahahaha. Oh my goodness, that had to be awesome.
I bet all the lovers of those two got quiet quickly.
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Lumbergh was the DA homeboy from Oregon.
Ahhh... so it Mark O that wrote the song?
Lumbergh and I would have had fun as I was a full-on advocate of trading DA after his "break-out season". Ditto for Braylon after the same season.
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