Why the beheading topic get hidden?
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Muslims are a very peaceful people.
In fact, the Quran says anyone who leaves the religion should be killed.
You guys are just close minded.
In fact you are wrong. It does not say anything at all about apostasy. You like to criticize Woody for being a know-it-all liberal but here you are spouting flat-out lies about Islam like your some kind of expert.Muslims are a very peaceful people.
In fact, the Quran says anyone who leaves the religion should be killed.
"I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta -
I've made it pretty clear that I don't plan to run a tight ship. I've also made it clear that banning someone, taking them off the board or issuing them demerits is not included in my moderator privileges.
The reason I might take the personal threats a bit more seriously it's not because I think Walter would carry anything out. It's because in this world of hypersensitivity I can only imagine some do gooder jagoff coming in issuing citations or some stupid shit like that.
So I asked you fuckers not to do it. If you do I'm sure the administrators will boot you.
And Woody if you had Walter White set on ignore you'd have never seen the graphic images.
Yes those images are disgusting but if you think for a minute it's probably not a bad idea to remember who the real enemy is.
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Reality is tough. Its easier to stick your head in the sand and pretend it doesn't happen.
Reality is tough. Its easier to stick your head in the sand and pretend it doesn't happen.
I don't think anyone is sticking their heads in the sand. I think walter is just being an asshole.
WSS
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Reality is tough. Its easier to stick your head in the sand and pretend it doesn't happen.
I don't think anyone is sticking their heads in the sand. I think walter is just being an asshole.
WSS
I don't think anyone is sticking their heads in the sand. I think walter is just being an asshole.
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Not talking about Walter. Talking about the pictures. He should have however, put a warning before posting them so people who didn't want to look didn't .
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I don't think anyone is sticking their heads in the sand. I think walter is just being an asshole.
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Not talking about Walter. Talking about the pictures. He should have however, put a warning before posting them so people who didn't want to look didn't .
Not talking about Walter. Talking about the pictures. He should have however, put a warning before posting them so people who didn't want to look didn't .
A link to the pictures. Not the actual pictures. That's how forums work, and have always worked. If you can't enclose them in spoiler tags (don't think there's that option on here?) then put a link.
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You're a good guy Osiris and most of us here don't believe all muslims are the enemy but if push came to shove I'd have to say you threw in with the wrong lot. Muslims are allowing themselves to be vilified more and more by doing nothing to stop the evil cancers the religion of pieces produces. Every time some innocent woman is beheaded by a Muslim public sympathy for the moderate muslims dips a little bit more. Sad but true.
The only thing that's not true about what you said is that moderate Muslims aren't doing anything about it. There are tons doing things about it, including the UAE pilot that dropped bombs on ISIL. But the media here rarely covers anything good Muslims do. What you should be asking is why isn't it covered. Even when it is reported, it seems to fall on deaf ears save for the people like Woody and Chris who are predisposed to see things in a more nuanced light.
what would convince me a lot more than a single pilot dropping bombs is the millions of muslims putting aside their petty sectarian squabbles and fighting for their damn lives instead begging others to do it for them. Do like the Kurds and create a counter movement for the others to rally around.The only thing that's not true about what you said is that moderate Muslims aren't doing anything about it. There are tons doing things about it, including the UAE pilot that dropped bombs on ISIL. But the media here rarely covers anything good Muslims do. What you should be asking is why isn't it covered. Even when it is reported, it seems to fall on deaf ears save for the people like Woody and Chris who are predisposed to see things in a more nuanced light.
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what would convince me a lot more than a single pilot dropping bombs is the millions of muslims putting aside their petty sectarian squabbles and fighting for their damn lives instead begging others to do it for them. Do like the Kurds and create a counter movement for the others to rally around.The only thing that's not true about what you said is that moderate Muslims aren't doing anything about it. There are tons doing things about it, including the UAE pilot that dropped bombs on ISIL. But the media here rarely covers anything good Muslims do. What you should be asking is why isn't it covered. Even when it is reported, it seems to fall on deaf ears save for the people like Woody and Chris who are predisposed to see things in a more nuanced light.
what would convince me a lot more than a single pilot dropping bombs is the millions of muslims putting aside their petty sectarian squabbles and fighting for their damn lives instead begging others to do it for them. Do like the Kurds and create a counter movement for the others to rally around.
The Kurds are Muslims, so there you have it.
There are lots of things Muslims are doing, something you can find by a bit of Googling because I promise you ABC/NBC/CBS/CNN/etc are not going to show it to you. NPR might:
http://www.npr.org/2014/09/25/351277631/prominent-muslim-sheikh-issues-fatwa-against-isis-violence
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I think it's safe to say that members of any group that includes a bad section, such as Muslims in general and insane jihadis, Irish Catholics and IRA bombers, Serbians and Slobodan Milosevic troops or Southerners and Quantrill's Raiders might look upon those unsavory elements with less animosity opposition than the general public.
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Banning/suspending you is not violating your "rights".
I call you hate filled because you are, not because I disagree with you. I'll call someone a bigot or a racist not because i disagree with them, but because they are those things.
There's no higher level going on here. I am not blindly following some party. I am calling you out because you deserve to be. You just gone on little hate filled rants, have threatened me, and have posted very graphic images with no warning. You have broken numerous forum rules. You deserve to be banned/suspended.
1. Freedom of speech, FAG
2. You don't know me, WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU TO JUDGE ME FAG?
3. FAG, Why are you offended by "graphic images" of brown towel heads beheading and raping? It's real life. It's what happens.
Did I offend you baby boy? are you okay baby boy?
Is baby boy the soft white college campus guy okay? Baby boy.... are you hurt?
Baby boy please ban something like usual. Aww baby boy
1. Freedom of speech, FAG
2. You don't know me, WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU TO JUDGE ME FAG?
3. FAG, Why are you offended by "graphic images" of brown towel heads beheading and raping? It's real life. It's what happens.
Did I offend you baby boy? are you okay baby boy?
Is baby boy the soft white college campus guy okay? Baby boy.... are you hurt?
Baby boy please ban something like usual. Aww baby boy
You're a moron. Lets hope you never raised any kids.... Or hope they ignored you
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I think it's safe to say that members of any group that includes a bad section, such as Muslims in general and insane jihadis, Irish Catholics and IRA bombers, Serbians and Slobodan Milosevic troops or Southerners and Quantrill's Raiders might look upon those unsavory elements with less animosity opposition than the general public.
WSS
I think it's safe to say that members of any group that includes a bad section, such as Muslims in general and insane jihadis, Irish Catholics and IRA bombers, Serbians and Slobodan Milosevic troops or Southerners and Quantrill's Raiders might look upon those unsavory elements with less animosity opposition than the general public.
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Not for me, anyway. I look at them with more animosity because a) they are doing something we all agree is horrible, and mostly to moderate/liberal Muslims like myself, and
if that weren't bad enough, the same moderate/liberal Muslims get stereotyped for it. I generally hold them more responsible for the stereotyping than the people doing the stereotyping. -
I think it's safe to say that members of any group that includes a bad section, such as Muslims in general and insane jihadis, Irish Catholics and IRA bombers, Serbians and Slobodan Milosevic troops or Southerners and Quantrill's Raiders might look upon those unsavory elements with less animosity opposition than the general public.
WSS
I think it's safe to say that members of any group that includes a bad section, such as Muslims in general and insane jihadis, Irish Catholics and IRA bombers, Serbians and Slobodan Milosevic troops or Southerners and Quantrill's Raiders might look upon those unsavory elements with less animosity opposition than the general public.
WSS
Just like how there are some here that can give browns fans a bad name, or white males,.... Or people...
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I think it's safe to say that members of any group that includes a bad section, such as Muslims in general and insane jihadis, Irish Catholics and IRA bombers, Serbians and Slobodan Milosevic troops or Southerners and Quantrill's Raiders might look upon those unsavory elements with less animosity opposition than the general public.
WSS
Just like how there are some here that can give browns fans a bad name, or white males,.... Or people...
True. Of course we all understand that a cheap shot by a Pittsburgh Steeler might be a good clean it by a Cleveland Brown. I was more thinking of the times I do my Irish show and sing if you rebel songs. I personally have absolutely no animosity toward the British nor do most if any of the audience members.Just like how there are some here that can give browns fans a bad name, or white males,.... Or people...
Nobody gets outraged about it but if there were a Middle Eastern restaurant and the entertainer was singing about death to infidels or a black club playing kill the white man rap music...
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True. Of course we all understand that a cheap shot by a Pittsburgh Steeler might be a good clean it by a Cleveland Brown. I was more thinking of the times I do my Irish show and sing if you rebel songs. I personally have absolutely no animosity toward the British nor do most if any of the audience members.Just like how there are some here that can give browns fans a bad name, or white males,.... Or people...
Nobody gets outraged about it but if there were a Middle Eastern restaurant and the entertainer was singing about death to infidels or a black club playing kill the white man rap music...
WSS
yeah. Of course we all understand that a cheap shot by a Pittsburgh Steeler might be a good clean it buy a Cleveland Brown. I was more thinking of the times I do my Irish show and sing if you rebel songs. I personally have absolutely no animosity toward the British nor do most if any of the audience members.
Nobody gets outraged about it but if there were a Middle Eastern restaurant and the entertainer was singing about death to infidels or a black club playing kill the white man rap music...
WSS
Things get misunderstood when taken out of context? Well this is news
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In fact you are wrong. It does not say anything at all about apostasy. You like to criticize Woody for being a know-it-all liberal but here you are spouting flat-out lies about Islam like your some kind of expert.Muslims are a very peaceful people.
In fact, the Quran says anyone who leaves the religion should be killed.
In fact you are wrong. It does not say anything at all about apostasy.
Yes it does. Being an apostate is the worst thing you can do in Islam. Do some research.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/09/25/Iraqi-woman-activist-killed-by-Islamic-State
Quran 3:90
Quran 9:66
Quran 16: 106
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In the 1400 year history of Islam, 270 million people have been murdered over that non sense.
It promotes pedophelia (Mohammed married Aisha when she was 6 and had sexual intercourse with her while she remained pre pubscent, this fact is repeated many times Sahih Adadith)
The Quran in fact garuntees women inherit half of what a man does, husbands are a degree above their wives, women are to be sexual prisoners, a man may have up to 4 wives, mature men are allowed to marry pre pubescent girls, husbands may hit their wives.
This is all shit in the Quran.
STOP WITH YOUR BULLSHIT LIES AND JUST GO DIRECTLY TO THE SOURCE.
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In fact you are wrong. It does not say anything at all about apostasy.
Yes it does. Being an apostate is the worst thing you can do in Islam. Do some research.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/09/25/Iraqi-woman-activist-killed-by-Islamic-State
Quran 3:90
Quran 9:66
Quran 16: 106
Yes it does. Being an apostate is the worst thing you can do in Islam. Do some research.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/09/25/Iraqi-woman-activist-killed-by-Islamic-State
Quran 3:90
Quran 9:66
Quran 16: 106
Your again are wrong. There is nothing in the Quran about punishing apostasy. You saying it is in the Quran doesn't make it so. YOU HAVE NOT PROVIDED AN ACTUAL QUOTE FROM THE QURAN. THAT IS BECAUSE IT DOES NOT EXIST. I KNOW THE SOURCE MATERIAL BETTER THAN YOU AS I HAVE READ IT.Yes it does. Being an apostate is the worst thing you can do in Islam. Do some research.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/09/25/Iraqi-woman-activist-killed-by-Islamic-State
Quran 3:90
Quran 9:66
Quran 16: 106
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Yes it does. Being an apostate is the worst thing you can do in Islam. Do some research.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/09/25/Iraqi-woman-activist-killed-by-Islamic-State
Quran 3:90
Quran 9:66
Quran 16: 106
Your again are wrong. There is nothing in the Quran about punishing apostasy. You saying it is in the Quran doesn't make it so. YOU HAVE NOT PROVIDED AN ACTUAL QUOTE FROM THE QURAN. THAT IS BECAUSE IT DOES NOT EXIST. I KNOW THE SOURCE MATERIAL BETTER THAN YOU AS I HAVE READ IT.Yes it does. Being an apostate is the worst thing you can do in Islam. Do some research.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/09/25/Iraqi-woman-activist-killed-by-Islamic-State
Quran 3:90
Quran 9:66
Quran 16: 106
There is nothing in the Quran about punishing apostasy.
YES IT DOES.
Qur'an (4:89) - "They wish that you should disbelieve as they disbelieve, and then you would be equal; therefore take not to yourselves friends of them, until they emigrate in the way of God; then, if they turn their backs, take them, and slay them wherever you find them; take not to yourselves any one of them as friend or helper."
Qur'an (9:11-12) - "But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then are they your brethren in religion. We detail Our revelations for a people who have knowledge. And if they break their pledges after their treaty (hath been made with you) and assail your religion, then fight the heads of disbelief - Lo! they have no binding oaths - in order that they may desist."
It's literally right there in front of your face but you continue to deny it. Islam is a savage religion and promotes pedophelia and violence. That's the problem with religious assholes like you, you deny the facts. -
Once again taken out of context. Why did you not present the entire verse? Because you are lazy and only seek to affirm an opinion you already established rather than to understand with an open mind. Here is what you omitted:
4:88-91 Why should ye be divided into two parties about the Hypocrites? Allah hath upset them for their (evil) deeds. Would ye guide those whom Allah hath thrown out of the Way? For those whom Allah hath thrown out of the Way, never shalt thou find the Way. They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): so take not friends from their ranks until they forsake the domain of evil in the way of God (from what is forbidden). But if they revert to [open] enmity enmity, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them;"
Point 1: The "Hypocrites" that the Quran talks about are a specific group that was persecuting and killing Muslims at the time. This verse is talking about how to respond to them, not instructing Muslims in general to run off and kill non believers.
Point 2: it specifically talks about reverting to open enmity. Reverting from what? From the peace treaty they had made with the Muslim, which is something they did several times. Thus from the context we know this is talking about fighting people who broke a peace treaty by reverting to killing and persecuting Muslims.
The same thing applies to verse 9:11 and 9:12. This is again not talking about apostasy, it is talking about the pagans who were persecuting the Muslims at the time, something made clear by the earlier verses of this chapter.
And for the record, you confuse being educated with being religious. You are the one who is being an asshole to everyone on this forum, so that label applies to you, not me.
"I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta -
They say that you have to understand it in context. Okay.
Here's some discussions on that:
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Once again taken out of context. Why did you not present the entire verse? Because you are lazy and only seek to affirm an opinion you already established rather than to understand with an open mind. Here is what you omitted:
4:88-91 Why should ye be divided into two parties about the Hypocrites? Allah hath upset them for their (evil) deeds. Would ye guide those whom Allah hath thrown out of the Way? For those whom Allah hath thrown out of the Way, never shalt thou find the Way. They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): so take not friends from their ranks until they forsake the domain of evil in the way of God (from what is forbidden). But if they revert to [open] enmity enmity, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them;"
Point 1: The "Hypocrites" that the Quran talks about are a specific group that was persecuting and killing Muslims at the time. This verse is talking about how to respond to them, not instructing Muslims in general to run off and kill non believers.
Point 2: it specifically talks about reverting to open enmity. Reverting from what? From the peace treaty they had made with the Muslim, which is something they did several times. Thus from the context we know this is talking about fighting people who broke a peace treaty by reverting to killing and persecuting Muslims.
The same thing applies to verse 9:11 and 9:12. This is again not talking about apostasy, it is talking about the pagans who were persecuting the Muslims at the time, something made clear by the earlier verses of this chapter.
And for the record, you confuse being educated with being religious. You are the one who is being an asshole to everyone on this forum, so that label applies to you, not me.
Once again taken out of context.
Spoken like a true religious pig defending a vile, disgusting, violent, and misogynistic religion.
If you are seriously defending all the horrible things in the Quran, you're totally fucked in the head.
I don't need you translate it for me. It's not taken out of context. Islamic Law states all apostates should be put the death you denial and delusional fuck.
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They say that you have to understand it in context. Okay.
Here's some discussions on that:
They say that you have to understand it in context. Okay.
Here's some discussions on that:
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