Do juiced-up Steelers teams deserve asterisks?

[Sez.EJ]

Plumcrazy: What. Do you think the teams the Steelers played against were not using too? I have some swamp land in Florida I want to sell you. I'm not saying it's not cheating.. It is. But it's not just isolated to Pissburgh.

[plumcrazy73]

@sez.ej said:

Plumcrazy: What. Do you think the teams the Steelers played against were not using too? I have some swamp land in Florida I want to sell you. I'm not saying it's not cheating.. It is. But it's not just isolated to Pissburgh.

Sez, why do you call me out on this and not everyone else? Not that I care, but just curious. I was just posting what others were thinking, and writing that was not Cleveland writers. You can keep your swamp land.

But does it make it right cause everyone else was doing it? And other teams don't have the former players calling it out, plus all the early deaths. Now don't get me wrong maybe others do have the early deaths on par with the Steelers I don't know I only follow the Browns, and because I do follow the Browns, I do keep up with their rivals more then I do other NFL teams. Now here lately I have paid more attention to others but for many years I only followed the Browns and the Browns only and of course the rivals.

[Pumpkin Eater]

Everyone knows that every single Squeeler superbowl win is tainted, either by steroids or fishy officiating.

[Pumpkin Eater]

@sez.ej said:

Plumcrazy: What. Do you think the teams the Steelers played against were not using too? I have some swamp land in Florida I want to sell you. I'm not saying it's not cheating.. It is. But it's not just isolated to Pissburgh.

Mostly they weren't. As Haslett said, the Squeelers basicalyl started the whole thing. Cheaters.

[kshutchins]

@fan-of-steel-1 said:

The browns do have 8 championships, the latest from fifty years ago that nobody on this board even witnessed. They sure as hell don't have any SUPERBOWL trophies and the game is much different today. Win a Superbowl, the browns are one of a few teams to not accomplish that.

First we had "everybody was doing it" as justification for steroid abuse. Now we have "if it was a long time ago it didn't count." Interesting philosophy you have there.

[Kosar_For_President]

@kshutchins said:

First we had "everybody was doing it" as justification for steroid abuse. Now we have "if it was a long time ago it didn't count." Interesting philosophy you have there.

Exactly KS. Those hillbillies never have an answer, they just keep coming back with "it was so long ago". Your exactly right, they choose to define their own history, just like Hitler did.

[BUNSofSTEEL08]

@pumpkin-eater said:

Everyone knows that every single Squeeler superbowl win is tainted, either by steroids or fishy officiating.

LOL , what an imbecile !

[Sez.EJ]

Plum:

I only called you out since you started the thread. If that is wrong.... sorry.. I perhaps assumed you were stating the asterisk was correct. That's all. I do believe the Steelers seem to be the posterchildren for this, however are others.... Alzado (former Brown/Raider) and Matuzak that come to mind as potential steroid related deaths. Alzado believed his was and he believed Matuzaks was also

[plumcrazy73]

But look at the sheer numbers from the Steelers of the 70's that were linked by former players, and early deaths. That is all that I find peculiar. Yes Alzado, did do them , but I think that was before the Browns (could be wrong) but still that was one linked to roids in the 70's!

[Pumpkin Eater]

All of the '70's Squeelfag tifanny silver SB trophies are tarnishing with time. Admitted Steroid abuse and a pattern of illnesses among former Squeelfags. The superbowl tropies of the '00's will tarnish with time also, when an official writes a book about how they were either payed to favor the squeelfags or instructed to.

[choco]

i contend that if every team was doing it, why is the mortality rate of the squeelers from said era more than twice any other team from same said era?

there are more players from those teams dead than alive.....the stools of the 70's have the life expectancy of a feudal age single mother with the plague.

but yeah, everyone else was doing it.

it breaks down to money....stools sell more merchandise....it would be stupid to have let the cards win.

[BendMeOver]

Steroids and Losers don't make headlines, steroids and winners/recordbreakers do. The Browns were losers in the '70s, so any stories on them taking steriods just makes your "former" organization all that more pathetic. Yawn. Oh we still have six trophies and how many do you Brownies have?

[Pumpkin Eater]

Endymion said:

Steroids and Losers don't make headlines, steroids and winners/recordbreakers do. The Browns were losers in the '70s, so any stories on them taking steriods just makes your "former" organization all that more pathetic. Yawn. Oh we still have six trophies and how many do you Brownies have?

8.

[BendMeOver]

If you include our AFC champion trophies (the equivalent of the ones you Brownies promote) that puts us at 13.

Browns Super Bowl appearances = 0.

Browns AFC Championship vicotries = 0.

It's impressive winning 8 trophies against what was it back then 6 teams. Can't wait to see your highlight reels...hmmm was TV even invented back then? Oh I'm so envious.

[choco]

zombo...ease up. you'll make his head spin. lol

[Pumpkin Eater]

Zombo said:

It's not the equivalent. The Browns were champions, there was no one left to beat. The Steelers lost.

Where do you get 13 any way? You've been AFC champions 7 times. Are you counting losses too? Cause we can throw in championship losses too, if you want to go that route.

Hey ... here's an idea ... let's just count Champions ... last team standing. That's what greatness is all about.

Zombo

Squeeler math. These idiots probably hand out on here all day because they can't even find the Squeelfag board.

[choco]

from what i understand, most squeeler boards are not tolerant of dissenting opinions or otherwise less-than-intelligent football fans.

they ban their own for being idiots.....they are the rejects that needed a home. ironically, the only ones that'll talk to 'em are the ones the claim to hate.

[BendMeOver]

Zombo Wrote:

Zombo said:

It's not the equivalent. The Browns were champions, there was no one left to beat.

There was no one left to beat in your conference, the equivalent of an AFC Championship victory. Until the Super Bowl was established the conference champions of the NFC and AFC did not meet in a title game. Green Bay was often considered the best team of the age (better so than the Browns at the time). So you can have all your ancient history pre-dawn NFL Europe World Cup predecessor titles you want from the of the pre-Super Bowl era. Beating 6 teams for that trophy was super impressive! How many did you personally lay witness to? Yawn.

[AdaM]

Endymion said:

Zombo Wrote:

There was no one left to beat in your conference, the equivalent of an AFC Championship victory. Until the Super Bowl was established the conference champions of the NFC and AFC did not meet in a title game. Green Bay was often considered the best team of the age (better so than the Browns at the time). So you can have all your ancient history pre-dawn NFL Europe World Cup predecessor titles you want from the of the pre-Super Bowl era. Beating 6 teams for that trophy was super impressive! How many did you personally lay witness to? Yawn.

How many did the Steelers win? Zero.

How is your first 45 year joke of an existence any smaller than our current 20 year suck-fest?

[Erie Dawg]

I am going to simply say yes to the *.

I think that the press needs to start putting pressure on Sen. PA Arlen Specter about the steelers of the 70's.

Now remember he was the one doing all the finger pointing during the whole "spy gate" thing and wanted championships taken away, * put on everything. Wouldn’t it be great to see the finger get pointed back at him and his state and see him try choke and gag his way through that press conference.

Just something to think about.