Why the beheading topic get hidden?
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I jump past Yahoo answers and get my info from YouTube comments.
But yeah, religion is dumb. Just another tool to manipulate dummies into emptying their wallets or doing acts of violence.
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I jump past Yahoo answers and get my info from YouTube comments.
But yeah, religion is dumb. Just another tool to manipulate dummies into emptying their wallets or doing acts of violence.
Just another tool to manipulate dummies into emptying their wallets or doing acts of violence.
Ding Ding Ding we have a winner.
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Once again taken out of context. Why did you not present the entire verse? Because you are lazy and only seek to affirm an opinion you already established rather than to understand with an open mind. Here is what you omitted:
4:88-91 Why should ye be divided into two parties about the Hypocrites? Allah hath upset them for their (evil) deeds. Would ye guide those whom Allah hath thrown out of the Way? For those whom Allah hath thrown out of the Way, never shalt thou find the Way. They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): so take not friends from their ranks until they forsake the domain of evil in the way of God (from what is forbidden). But if they revert to [open] enmity enmity, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them;"
Point 1: The "Hypocrites" that the Quran talks about are a specific group that was persecuting and killing Muslims at the time. This verse is talking about how to respond to them, not instructing Muslims in general to run off and kill non believers.
Point 2: it specifically talks about reverting to open enmity. Reverting from what? From the peace treaty they had made with the Muslim, which is something they did several times. Thus from the context we know this is talking about fighting people who broke a peace treaty by reverting to killing and persecuting Muslims.
The same thing applies to verse 9:11 and 9:12. This is again not talking about apostasy, it is talking about the pagans who were persecuting the Muslims at the time, something made clear by the earlier verses of this chapter.
And for the record, you confuse being educated with being religious. You are the one who is being an asshole to everyone on this forum, so that label applies to you, not me.
And for the record, you confuse being educated with being religious. You are the one who is being an asshole to everyone on this forum, so that label applies to you, not me.
No, it applies to you.
How many videos do we need to post of Muslim clerics and Muslims stating apostates and or infidels should be killed, or that its OK to marry and fuck a 9yr. old, or the proper way to beat your wife... for deniers like you to get it?
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Once again taken out of context.
Spoken like a true religious pig defending a vile, disgusting, violent, and misogynistic religion.
If you are seriously defending all the horrible things in the Quran, you're totally fucked in the head.
I don't need you translate it for me. It's not taken out of context. Islamic Law states all apostates should be put the death you denial and delusional fuck.
Morons learn the difference between what is in
Spoken like a true religious pig defending a vile, disgusting, violent, and misogynistic religion.
If you are seriously defending all the horrible things in the Quran, you're totally fucked in the head.
I don't need you translate it for me. It's not taken out of context. Islamic Law states all apostates should be put the death you denial and delusional fuck.
Nice backtracking you originally said it was in the Quran. I have proven that it is not, and now you say Islamic Law. You don't even understand the material. You are like a kindergartener trying to understand organic chemistry. Just because you are too dim-witted to understand history and context does not mean it doesn't exist. You are a pathetic human being who can't support an argument without resorting to fuck and faggot.
Woody is right, you should be banned from here. My job here is done.
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What's the matter did stewy get banned again and that's why you're back as stewie? Thought we wouldn't notice. But we did.
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Orisis,
The Quran and The Bible as well are full of violent, hateful, and disturbing images and the fact you defend it and say I'm taking it out of context...
NO I'M NOT, IT LITERALLY FUCKING SAYS THESE THINGS but like most religious morons you deny facts. Faith>Facts in your world.
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Explain this one ya dumbass.
Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."
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Yeah, I'm a scientist, so yep, I like facts. Fact is, you don't appear to even understand the concept of context. It means you are taking one-line quotes and leaving the stuff out that makes it clear these quotes refer to historical events and are not commandments that Muslims are expected to follow literally today. It's like reading Snow White and saying all old women are commanded to give poisoned apples to young brunettes. The Quran is a narrative not a freaking instruction manual to be taken literally.
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Yeah, I'm a scientist, so yep, I like facts. Fact is, you don't appear to even understand the concept of context. It means you are taking one-line quotes and leaving the stuff out that makes it clear these quotes refer to historical events and are not commandments that Muslims are expected to follow literally today. It's like reading Snow White and saying all old women are commanded to give poisoned apples to young brunettes. The Quran is a narrative not a freaking instruction manual to be taken literally.
Yeah, I'm a scientist, so yep, I like facts. Fact is, you don't appear to even understand the concept of context. It means you are taking one-line quotes and leaving the stuff out that makes it clear these quotes refer to historical events and are not commandments that Muslims are expected to follow literally today. It's like reading Snow White and saying all old women are commanded to give poisoned apples to young brunettes. The Quran is a narrative not a freaking instruction manual to be taken literally.
1. I don't need a religious D-BAG like you who believes in fairy tales to translate the text for me.
2. Then why do all Islamic countries enforce these laws and take them literally. (Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Iran) Why are women to be covered up in this country which is what they do?
Once again, you are so fucked in the head with that religion...
WHY DO MUSLIM WOMEN COVER UP IN THOSE COUNTRIES IF THEY DON'T TAKE THE QURAN LITERALLY?
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If Muslims don't take the Quran literally than can you please explain the following:
9/11
The Boston Marathon
The London Underground Bombings
The Madrid Train Bombing
The Moscow Airport attack
The Mumbai Hotel incident
The 1993 Trade Center Bombings killing 6
The 1998 US Embassy Bombings killing 46
The 2000 Christmas Eve Indonesia Bombings killing 18
The 2000 USS Cole Bombing in Yemen killing 17 US Sailors
The 2001 Sbarrao Restaurant suicide bombing killing 15 in Iseral,
The Suicide Attack on Indian Parliament killing 7 in 2001,
The Cafe Moment bombing killing 11 in Jerusalem in 2002
The 2002 Suicide Bomb on Passover at The Seder Hotel killing 30
The 2002 Attacks on The hindu Temple in Raghunath killing 25
The 2002 Bombing in al-Arbaa Algeria killing 49
The 2002 Megiddo Junction bombing killing 17
The 2002 Patt Junction Bus Bombing killing 19
The 2002 Machine Gun attack killing 31 in Ahmedabad, India
The 2002 Bombing in Bali at a nightclub killing 202
The 2002 Moscow Theater Crisis killing 170
The 2003 Tel Aviv Bus Station Massacre killing 23
The 2003 Casablanca Attacks killing 33
The 2003 Shmuel HaNavi Bus Bominb killing 23
The 2003 Maxim restaurant suicide booming in Haifa killing 21
The 2004 Madrid Train Bombing killing 191
The 2004 Beslan School crises killing 344 Civilians and 186 school Children
The 2004 Sinai bombing killing 34
The 2004 Sinai bombing killing 34 in Egypt
The 2005 Bombings in London Underground killing 53
The 2005 Bomb attack in Sharm el -Sheik killing 64
The 2005 Delhi bombings killing over 60
The 2005 Amman bombing killing over 60
The 2006 Varanasi bombings killing 28
The 2006 Mumbai Train Bombings killing 209
The 2008 Bosaso Bombings killing 25
The 2008 Ahmedabad bombings killing 56
The 2008 Mogadishu bombings killing 21
The 2008 Bombings in New Delhi killing 30
The 2008 Bombings kill at least 175 in Mumbia
The 2009 Beledweyne bombing killing 35 Baghdad Bombings killing 155
The 2009 Peshawar Bombing killing 110 Women
The 2009 Hotel Shamo bombing In Mogadishu killing 25
The 2010 Lakki Pakistand car bombing killing 100 people
The 2012 Baghdad bombings killing 73 by the Islamic State of Iraq
The 2010 Pune India Bombing killing 17 peopleMali
The Kidnapping of 33 girls by Boko Haram in Nigeria
The execution of Hayam Nariah in Sudan for Apstocay
The beheading of Lee Rigby
The beheading of James Foley
The beheading of British Journalist
ISIS raping and murdering everything in their path
Mali
Bali
Northern Nigeria
Sudan
Saudi Arabia
Iran
Iraq
Afganistahn
Yemen
Pakistan
Death for Apostacy
Death for Blasphemy
Death for Adultery
Death for Homosexuality
Gender Segregation
Gender Discrimination
Unequal Testimony between men and women in legal proceedings
Imprisonment for being raped
No Freedom of Speech
No Freedom of Religion
No Freedom of The Press
No Freedom of Education
No Dogs
No Music
No Science
No Art
No Alcohol
No sex
Forced reading of The Quran in elementary schools
Forced Child Marriages of Pre-Pubesent girls
Forced Genital Circurmcision of 140 MILLION young females
Gang Rapes
Stonings
Beheadings
Polygamous Marriages
Consent not needing to marry the bride
Anti-SemItism
In Saudi Arabia (the birthplace of Islam) a women is not aloud to drive, she is not allowed to leave the house, she is not allowed to vote,
The Rape, Torture, and Murder of 28 year old Tarenah Mousavi for questioning election results.
The slaughter of Theo Von Goff on the Streets of Amsterdam
The execution of 2 Pakistani sisters dancing in the rain because females dancing is forbidden under Sharia Law
The Muslim Cleric who raped and killed his own daughter
Muslims Patrols in East London saying you must obey Sharia Law and chanting The British police should go to hell.
The calling for the death of South Park creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone
The calling for the death of Family Guy creator Seth McFarlane
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Here is a woman being stoned to death for not marrying her cousin. The decision was from a court in Pakistan.
http://www.reuters.com/video/2014/05/28/graphic-images-pakistani-woman-stoned-to?videoId=313111535
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Here are some Syrian Rebels beheading some Christians
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For all those - Cysko, I'm looking at you - who are saying "I'd respect Islam more if they spoke out about ISIS"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/24/muslim-scholars-islamic-state_n_5878038.html
I'm sure some are allergic to following a huffington post link (I jest, people are just lazy) so here's the first several paragraphs.
WASHINGTON (RNS) More than 120 Muslim scholars from around the world joined an open letter to the “fighters and followers” of the Islamic State, denouncing them as un-Islamic by using the most Islamic of terms.
Relying heavily on the Quran, the 18-page letter released Wednesday (Sept. 24) picks apart the extremist ideology of the militants who have left a wake of brutal death and destruction in their bid to establish a transnational Islamic state in Iraq and Syria.
Even translated into English, the letter will still sound alien to most Americans, said Nihad Awad, executive director of the Council of American-Islamic Relations, who released it in Washington with 10 other American Muslim religious and civil rights leaders.
“The letter is written in Arabic. It is using heavy classical religious texts and classical religious scholars that ISIS has used to mobilize young people to join its forces,” said Awad, using one of the acronyms for the group. “This letter is not meant for a liberal audience.”
Even mainstream Muslims, he said, may find it difficult to understand.
Awad said its aim is to offer a comprehensive Islamic refutation, “point-by-point,” to the philosophy of the Islamic State and the violence it has perpetrated. The letter’s authors include well-known religious and scholarly figures in the Muslim world, including Sheikh Shawqi Allam, the grand mufti of Egypt, and Sheikh Muhammad Ahmad Hussein, the mufti of Jerusalem and All Palestine.
A translated 24-point summary of the letter includes the following: “It is forbidden in Islam to torture”; “It is forbidden in Islam to attribute evil acts to God”; and “It is forbidden in Islam to declare people non-Muslims until he (or she) openly declares disbelief.”
This is not the first time Muslim leaders have joined to condemn the Islamic State. The chairman of the Central Council of Muslims in Germany, Aiman Mazyek, for example, last week told the nation’s Muslims that they should speak out against the “terrorist and murderers” who fight for the Islamic State and who have dragged Islam “through the mud.”
It goes on, and you can find a translation of the letter through that link as well.
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Im surprised that liberal douches like you in great britain would bypass your very own Pat Condell's take on the "scholars" LOL
afraid of the truth eh?
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Im surprised that liberal douches like you in great britain would bypass your very own Pat Condell's take on the "scholars" LOL
afraid of the truth eh?
Im surprised that liberal douches like you in great britain would bypass your very own Pat Condell's take on the "scholars" LOL
afraid of the truth eh?
Maybe Chris doesn't frequent muslimsmakemepissmypanties.org and doesn't know who Pat Condell is?
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Im surprised that liberal douches like you in great britain would bypass your very own Pat Condell's take on the "scholars" LOL
afraid of the truth eh?
Maybe Chris doesn't frequent muslimsmakemepissmypanties.org and doesn't know who Pat Condell is?
Maybe Chris doesn't frequent muslimsmakemepissmypanties.org and doesn't know who Pat Condell is?
There is that, yes, never heard of the guy. And the logic that because he's British I should agree with whatever he has to say is, shall we say, somewhat flawed.
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Maybe Chris doesn't frequent muslimsmakemepissmypanties.org and doesn't know who Pat Condell is?
There is that, yes, never heard of the guy. And the logic that because he's British I should agree with whatever he has to say is, shall we say, somewhat flawed.
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Maybe Chris doesn't frequent muslimsmakemepissmypanties.org and doesn't know who Pat Condell is?
There is that, yes, never heard of the guy. And the logic that because he's British I should agree with whatever he has to say is, shall we say, somewhat flawed.
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First, chris, I never said I didn't respect islam. As usual I straddle the fence on the issue. I'm terribly terribly interested in history and thus have a pretty fair base of kknowledge of Islamic history. I've known many many very pleasant muslims specifically during my time in new york city where I frequented Atlantic Avenue in Brooklyn where there was a quite large muslim community adjacent to where I worked and even though at that point I was newly out of the service we managed to be quite cordial to each other and I would frequently enter their stores, unbearded and bold and purchase goods from them.
Second: 120 scholars is a drop in the hat buddy. The middle east needs to rise up against them and destroy them not cower in fear. It's THEIR lives which are most at risk and yet they are doing a really poor job of fighting for them and abroad where isis is making gains with the disenfranchised youth the elders are doing a shit job of containing it.
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