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Obamao did little to stop isil rise in Iraq

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    No bigot in me, dammit...

  • If we're not going to stop isis and we just intend to fuck around with them we ought to just stay out of it and let the cards fall where they may.

    I vote destroy them utterly and completely but if we're just going to half ass it, why bother?

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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  • This political half-assing it has gotten a LOT of

    our soldiers killed in battle, like Vietnam.

    Bomb Haighong sp? harbor?

    Nah. Political consequences.

    And in Afghanistan? Our soldiers deaths have skyrocketed because

    of Obamao's political interference with restrictive rules of engagement.

    Because, he favors and sides with Muslims.

  • Nixon sided with commies then if we are using your analogy?

    AxeA 1 Reply

  • Okay, I have no idea at all of what you mean there. Must have been

    a invisible ufo that just sped like a lightbeam over my head.

    LogicIsForSquaresL 1 Reply
  • T The Cysko Kid

    If we're not going to stop isis and we just intend to fuck around with them we ought to just stay out of it and let the cards fall where they may.

    I vote destroy them utterly and completely but if we're just going to half ass it, why bother?

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    If we're not going to stop isis and we just intend to fuck around with them we ought to just stay out of it and let the cards fall where they may.

    I vote destroy them utterly and completely but if we're just going to half ass it, why bother?

    I have a feeling they are waiting till after the mid-term elections to go full out, espcially if the kurds\iraqis\free syriain forces don't seem to be gaining more ground.

  • C calfoxwc

    Okay, I have no idea at all of what you mean there. Must have been

    a invisible ufo that just sped like a lightbeam over my head.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Okay, I have no idea at all of what you mean there. Must have been

    a invisible ufo that just sped like a lightbeam over my head.

    You were referencing the half measures used in Vietnam to what is going on in Afghanistan. You then segwayed into saying Obama favors and sides with Muslims. If that is the analogy you are going with then you could say Nixon favored and sided with the NVA.

  • Don't take that as a "gotcha" moment or anything stupid like that. Just pointing out that the two issues are unrelated.

  • Ah. I see it now. You do have a bit of a point - except Nixon never said the NV ..song...

    was the most beautiful song.

    Obamao did, however.

    Nixon never said push come to shove, he'd side with Muslims.

    Obamao did.

    Nixon never turned his back on Israel. Obamao certainly has.

    But, as this article explains, there are similarities to the withdrawal from nv, and Iraq.

    And differences. After the TET offensive, many folks were convinced sv could never win.

    Vietnam was an idealogical clusterfook from the gitgo. Iraq and Afghanistan were not.

    But all the gains we made there, were thrown out the window by Obamao's naivete and left wing/marxist

    garbage'.

    Egad. I just thunk a thought. I wonder why Jane "Traitor" Fonda hasn't gone over

    to Iraq, and worn a suicide vest, laughing all the way. Never mind. 😎

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  • We could have won in Vietnam. Not so much in Iraq and Afghanistan. Just a total difference in where the motivations are. Extremist Islamic factions were there well before the U.S. showed up in the Middle East and will be there until the end of time. Communism in Vietnam was a relatively new problem when we showed up when compared to Islam in the Middle East.

    We would have to be in Iraq and Afghanistan for at least another hundred years if the goal is some grand cultural change. No one wants to be policeman for another country for that long, investing the kind of money we would have to in the process.

  • I agree with you, but we left Vietnam in shambles, and we owned Iraq

    as far as driving the sick sob's out of power. Obamao deserted it, like

    Nixon deserted Vietnam.

    LBJ tied our military's "hands behind their backs", and so has

    Obamao.

    I had a link about that, but I forgot to put it in the post. We didn't have to go

    into Vietnam. JFK had about what, 6500 advisors there? Then LBJ went all

    stupid and sent way, way over a hundred thousand over there.

    I didn't agree with staying in Iraq after the war ended. Those people aren't going to

    change, those terrorist dirtbags.

    Obamao may as well put on a skirt and a blouse, and change his name to Jane Obamafonda.

    LOL. I think I'll keep that for future reference....

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  • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

    Nixon sided with commies then if we are using your analogy?

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Nixon sided with commies then if we are using your analogy?

    Nixon was impeached.. I like where you are going with this 😁

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  • AxeA Axe

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Nixon sided with commies then if we are using your analogy?

    Nixon was impeached.. I like where you are going with this 😁

    @axe said:

    Nixon was impeached.. I like where you are going with this 😁

    Obama won't be impeached. He will leave office and some new stooge will take the fall guy seat.

    AxeA 1 Reply

  • But he should be. If only the reps can really take the senate...

  • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

    @axe said:

    Nixon was impeached.. I like where you are going with this 😁

    Obama won't be impeached. He will leave office and some new stooge will take the fall guy seat.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Obama won't be impeached. He will leave office and some new stooge will take the fall guy seat.

    But, but, but,, he was the ONE!! The guy that won a Nobel peace prize for........ 😵

    He had a fucking super majority for 2 yrs and all we got out of it was the worst pc of legislation that has ever been rammed down the throat of a civilized society in the history of man!!

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  • Exaggerating a little? Haha I don't like it but there have been worse laws passed.

  • Let's be fair Axe. There is now a Nobel category entitled "jack shit."

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  • Why should we stop ISIL anywhere, outside of US military bases on foreign soil and in the US itself?

    We are slow learners at times.

    Hope has two beautiful daughters: Their names are Anger and Courage. Anger that things are the way they are. Courage to make them the way they ought to be. - St. Augustine. Throughout the centuries there were men who took first steps down new roads armed with nothing but their vision. - Ayn Rand
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