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  • calfoxwc C Dedicated Very Popular Conversation Starter Collaborator First Post Posting Machine Reacting Well Week One Done One Year In One Month Later
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    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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    I agree with you, but we left Vietnam in shambles, and we owned Iraq

    as far as driving the sick sob's out of power. Obamao deserted it, like

    Nixon deserted Vietnam.

    LBJ tied our military's "hands behind their backs", and so has

    Obamao.

    I had a link about that, but I forgot to put it in the post. We didn't have to go

    into Vietnam. JFK had about what, 6500 advisors there? Then LBJ went all

    stupid and sent way, way over a hundred thousand over there.

    I didn't agree with staying in Iraq after the war ended. Those people aren't going to

    change, those terrorist dirtbags.

    Obamao may as well put on a skirt and a blouse, and change his name to Jane Obamafonda.

    LOL. I think I'll keep that for future reference....

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      Segue

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        @pumpkin-eater said:

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        • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

          Nixon sided with commies then if we are using your analogy?

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          @logicisforsquares said:

          Nixon sided with commies then if we are using your analogy?

          Nixon was impeached.. I like where you are going with this 😁

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            @logicisforsquares said:

            Nixon sided with commies then if we are using your analogy?

            Nixon was impeached.. I like where you are going with this 😁

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            LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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            @axe said:

            Nixon was impeached.. I like where you are going with this 😁

            Obama won't be impeached. He will leave office and some new stooge will take the fall guy seat.

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              C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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              But he should be. If only the reps can really take the senate...

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                @axe said:

                Nixon was impeached.. I like where you are going with this 😁

                Obama won't be impeached. He will leave office and some new stooge will take the fall guy seat.

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                AxeA Axe wrote on last edited by Axe
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                @logicisforsquares said:

                Obama won't be impeached. He will leave office and some new stooge will take the fall guy seat.

                But, but, but,, he was the ONE!! The guy that won a Nobel peace prize for........ 😵

                He had a fucking super majority for 2 yrs and all we got out of it was the worst pc of legislation that has ever been rammed down the throat of a civilized society in the history of man!!

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                  LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                  Exaggerating a little? Haha I don't like it but there have been worse laws passed.

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                    W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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                    Let's be fair Axe. There is now a Nobel category entitled "jack shit."

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                      mohicanM mohican wrote on last edited by
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                      Why should we stop ISIL anywhere, outside of US military bases on foreign soil and in the US itself?

                      We are slow learners at times.

                      Hope has two beautiful daughters: Their names are Anger and Courage. Anger that things are the way they are. Courage to make them the way they ought to be. - St. Augustine. Throughout the centuries there were men who took first steps down new roads armed with nothing but their vision. - Ayn Rand
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                        C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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                        Well, for the same reason we eventually had to join wwii and stop the nazis.

                        Ignoring "small" threats, just lets them grow into huge threats.

                        But then, stopping the huge threat is so much loss of life of our own soldiers.

                        We already should have blasted isil while they were in a big convoy, coming up

                        that main road from syria into iraq. Now, it's a giant clusterfook.

                        Clinton ignored al quaida in afghanistan, sending only some missiles into the desert.

                        Then, we were hit with 9/11, after they planned it for at least 3 years.

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                          LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                          We shouldn't be fitting the bill anytime something bad happens. Germany, France, UK, etc. could just as easily take care of it. If they can't be bothered then that is on them. They are the one's that can be reached by land by these cowardly pieces of shit.

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                            LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                            Hell, other Muslim countries should be the ones going in and policing their own.

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                              C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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                              True, on both posts.

                              But they won't. At least we should have had the Brits, etc, going after isil when I said they should have.

                              BTW, I was watching a report on the corrupt, cowardly "president" - they knew where the hostages

                              were, but would not make a decision on rescuing them til about two to three months later, and then

                              they had been moved.

                              This obamao regime doesn't care about anything but keeping their power. And doing nothing is

                              to them, politically expedient.

                              I mean, they had both houses of Congress and the presidency, and they did jack nothing good for two years.

                              So, there ya go.

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                              • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

                                We shouldn't be fitting the bill anytime something bad happens. Germany, France, UK, etc. could just as easily take care of it. If they can't be bothered then that is on them. They are the one's that can be reached by land by these cowardly pieces of shit.

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                                gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                                @logicisforsquares said:

                                We shouldn't be fitting the bill anytime something bad happens. Germany, France, UK, etc. could just as easily take care of it. If they can't be bothered then that is on them. They are the one's that can be reached by land by these cowardly pieces of shit.

                                Go take a look at the coalition of countries against ISIL. And while you're there, compare to Al-Qaeda which was basically just the brits and americans. There are a lot more countries involved against ISIL - USA, Britain, France, Germany, Canada, Australia, Turkey, Italy, Poland and Denmark in the 'core' group of countries. Even the Iranians and Syrians are starting to be drawn in.

                                Nobody likes ISIL, they're not government backed, so there's no vested interest from anyone.

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                                  @logicisforsquares said:

                                  We shouldn't be fitting the bill anytime something bad happens. Germany, France, UK, etc. could just as easily take care of it. If they can't be bothered then that is on them. They are the one's that can be reached by land by these cowardly pieces of shit.

                                  Go take a look at the coalition of countries against ISIL. And while you're there, compare to Al-Qaeda which was basically just the brits and americans. There are a lot more countries involved against ISIL - USA, Britain, France, Germany, Canada, Australia, Turkey, Italy, Poland and Denmark in the 'core' group of countries. Even the Iranians and Syrians are starting to be drawn in.

                                  Nobody likes ISIL, they're not government backed, so there's no vested interest from anyone.

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                                  LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                                  @gftchris said:

                                  Go take a look at the coalition of countries against ISIL. And while you're there, compare to Al-Qaeda which was basically just the brits and americans. There are a lot more countries involved against ISIL - USA, Britain, France, Germany, Canada, Australia, Turkey, Italy, Poland and Denmark in the 'core' group of countries. Even the Iranians and Syrians are starting to be drawn in.

                                  Nobody likes ISIL, they're not government backed, so there's no vested interest from anyone.

                                  I was speaking in a broader sense of how things normally are. We feel as if we have to police every bad situation when we could stand to sit some out. It should be resolved by others sometimes.

                                  To be honest, I should not have mentioned the Brits because they are usually along for the ride on every adventure the U.S. goes on.

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                                    W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                                    and a lot of that is due to the fact our English bretherin are still using their own currency.

                                    says I.

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                                      @gftchris said:

                                      Go take a look at the coalition of countries against ISIL. And while you're there, compare to Al-Qaeda which was basically just the brits and americans. There are a lot more countries involved against ISIL - USA, Britain, France, Germany, Canada, Australia, Turkey, Italy, Poland and Denmark in the 'core' group of countries. Even the Iranians and Syrians are starting to be drawn in.

                                      Nobody likes ISIL, they're not government backed, so there's no vested interest from anyone.

                                      I was speaking in a broader sense of how things normally are. We feel as if we have to police every bad situation when we could stand to sit some out. It should be resolved by others sometimes.

                                      To be honest, I should not have mentioned the Brits because they are usually along for the ride on every adventure the U.S. goes on.

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                                      gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                                      @logicisforsquares said:

                                      I was speaking in a broader sense of how things normally are. We feel as if we have to police every bad situation when we could stand to sit some out. It should be resolved by others sometimes.

                                      To be honest, I should not have mentioned the Brits because they are usually along for the ride on every adventure the U.S. goes on.

                                      Yeah, I kinda got riled up at that! 😛

                                      But you can sense that Obama doesn't want another "10 years of soldiers in the middle east" situation, and so is looking to get other countries involved - while still doing a 'fair share' of course - to take on ISIL. Like I said, nobody likes them, nobody backs them, and they're pissing off a lot of people. People from across Europe are being sucked in - apparently France has the highest number who have gone to fight. Australia's 'ginger muslim' has made a lot of people angry as well.

                                      This isn't like Iraq, with claims of WMDs that turned out to be 'optimistic' and we went through with the war anyway, or however you spin that. There's a definitive 'bad guy' that the world has no interest in appeasing or accommodating.

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                                        Well, for the same reason we eventually had to join wwii and stop the nazis.

                                        Ignoring "small" threats, just lets them grow into huge threats.

                                        But then, stopping the huge threat is so much loss of life of our own soldiers.

                                        We already should have blasted isil while they were in a big convoy, coming up

                                        that main road from syria into iraq. Now, it's a giant clusterfook.

                                        Clinton ignored al quaida in afghanistan, sending only some missiles into the desert.

                                        Then, we were hit with 9/11, after they planned it for at least 3 years.

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                                        mohicanM mohican wrote on last edited by
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                                        @calfoxwc said:

                                        Well, for the same reason we eventually had to join wwii and stop the nazis.

                                        Ignoring "small" threats, just lets them grow into huge threats.

                                        But then, stopping the huge threat is so much loss of life of our own soldiers.

                                        We already should have blasted isil while they were in a big convoy, coming up

                                        that main road from syria into iraq. Now, it's a giant clusterfook.

                                        Clinton ignored al quaida in afghanistan, sending only some missiles into the desert.

                                        Then, we were hit with 9/11, after they planned it for at least 3 years.

                                        Really? What is the cost of lives and money since the full time occupation of Iraq under Bush II and full time occupation of Afghanistan under Obama?

                                        And has this dampened down anything? Little if any.

                                        What would we have to do if we were really serious about stopping these groups?

                                        Hope has two beautiful daughters: Their names are Anger and Courage. Anger that things are the way they are. Courage to make them the way they ought to be. - St. Augustine. Throughout the centuries there were men who took first steps down new roads armed with nothing but their vision. - Ayn Rand
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                                          @calfoxwc said:

                                          Well, for the same reason we eventually had to join wwii and stop the nazis.

                                          Ignoring "small" threats, just lets them grow into huge threats.

                                          But then, stopping the huge threat is so much loss of life of our own soldiers.

                                          We already should have blasted isil while they were in a big convoy, coming up

                                          that main road from syria into iraq. Now, it's a giant clusterfook.

                                          Clinton ignored al quaida in afghanistan, sending only some missiles into the desert.

                                          Then, we were hit with 9/11, after they planned it for at least 3 years.

                                          Really? What is the cost of lives and money since the full time occupation of Iraq under Bush II and full time occupation of Afghanistan under Obama?

                                          And has this dampened down anything? Little if any.

                                          What would we have to do if we were really serious about stopping these groups?

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                                          gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                                          @mohican said:

                                          What would we have to do if we were really serious about stopping these groups?

                                          Stop trying to bomb the crap out of anything in a turban.

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