Interesting Options Developing in Browns QB Situation
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choking?
let's compare apples with baby apples
Romo:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/comeback.cgi?player=RomoTo00
Hoyer:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/comeback.cgi?player=HoyeBr00
Game Winning Drives:
(26) Tony Romo (26) Boomer Esiason
(3) Brian Hoyer (3) Ryan Leaf
4Th QTR Comebacks
(22) Tony Romo, (22) Jim Kelly
(3) Brian Hoyer, (3) Jamarcus Russellchoking?
let's compare apples with baby apples
Romo:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/comeback.cgi?player=RomoTo00
Hoyer:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/comeback.cgi?player=HoyeBr00
Game Winning Drives:
(26) Tony Romo ....in 116 career starts.... that is 22 pct
(3) Brian Hoyer ...in 10 career starts....that is 30 pct.
4Th QTR Comebacks
(22) Tony Romo, ...that is 18.9%
(3) Brian Hoyer, that is 30% (and he holds the record for largest comeback)
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@everlastingxxx said:
#1. Hoyer is winning...so who cares right?
That said. I rewatched the Raiders game again. I am just not impressed with Hoyer, sorry. He throws good bubble screens and check downs. Manziel could do that. 2 passes should have been pick-6s. I saw a Browns defense that suffocated a Raiders offense. Like i said, Browns won...who cares how it happened right?
Well ... Ya. Better than "Dallas Loses, But It Sure Looked Pretty!"
Zombo
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romo is done. i'm sure they're not disclosing how bad he is really hurt.
"no structural damage" doesn't mean that you can barely move and the sciatica makes it feel like you're putting your legs through glass every time you take a step.
don't dislike the guy, in fact i feel sorry for him. sorry for him being on a dysfunctional franchise that would make cleveland look normal.
something about oil money makes a man crazy.
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Zombo said:
I do not think they are in the same class. Romo is in the Choking Class and Hoyer is in the Remains To Be Seen Class.
Zombo
No, Hoyer is in the journeyman class.
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choking?
let's compare apples with baby apples
Romo:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/comeback.cgi?player=RomoTo00
Hoyer:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/comeback.cgi?player=HoyeBr00
Game Winning Drives:
(26) Tony Romo (26) Boomer Esiason
(3) Brian Hoyer (3) Ryan Leaf
4Th QTR Comebacks
(22) Tony Romo, (22) Jim Kelly
(3) Brian Hoyer, (3) Jamarcus Russellchoking?
let's compare apples with baby apples
Romo:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/comeback.cgi?player=RomoTo00
Hoyer:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/comeback.cgi?player=HoyeBr00
Game Winning Drives:
(26) Tony Romo (26) Boomer Esiason
(3) Brian Hoyer (3) Ryan Leaf
4Th QTR Comebacks
(22) Tony Romo, (22) Jim Kelly
(3) Brian Hoyer, (3) Jamarcus Russell
Game Winning Drives:
(26) Tony Romo ....in 116 career starts.... that is 22 pct
(3) Brian Hoyer ...in 10 career starts....that is 30 pct.
4Th QTR Comebacks
(22) Tony Romo, ...that is 18.9%
(3) Brian Hoyer, that is 30% (and he holds the record for largest comeback)
So, there's that ....
Zombo
--Thanks for the assist, gip, didn't see this lameass post first time through
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I know I'm starting the cardinals defense in my FFL if weeden is starting on Sunday (which it looks like he is)
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Kind of a modest goal.
Not exactly hitching your wagon to a star there bud.
WSS
If Hoyer gets the Browns to 3 Champ games, then yea, I'll hitch my wagon to him.
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@everlastingxxx said:
Thats dangerous. Weeden has a strong running game to work with and he loves throwing to Dez Bryant (who i have on my fantasy team). I might even pick Weeden up on one of my teams because my QB is on a bye. I dont know if Romo is going to play. My guess is that he wont. He is pretty beat up.
I think you should pick him up and start him.
Zombo
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But at some point, he's going to have to make a play when everything goes wrong.
I haven't seen the slightest hint at having that ability.
Ya ... if only we could see him perform when "everything goes wrong".
Like being down 28-3 on the road? And then throwing three TD passes to win the game?
Something along those lines?
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000000406000/Week-5-Browns-vs-Titans-highlights
Zombo
--Not the slightest hint, eh?
Zombo said:
Ya ... if only we could see him perform when "everything goes wrong".
Like being down 28-3 on the road? And then throwing three TD passes to win the game?
--Not the slightest hint, eh?
You have to admit that under those circumstances the hint was not anywhere near "slightest"...
@everlastingxxx said:
Weeden has a strong running game to work with and he loves throwing to Dez Bryant (who i have on my fantasy team). I might even pick Weeden up on one of my teams because my QB is on a bye.
lol... Ya better hurry...
Let us know how starting Wheezy works out for ya...
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choking?
let's compare apples with baby apples
Romo:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/comeback.cgi?player=RomoTo00
Hoyer:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/comeback.cgi?player=HoyeBr00
Game Winning Drives:
(26) Tony Romo (26) Boomer Esiason
(3) Brian Hoyer (3) Ryan Leaf
4Th QTR Comebacks
(22) Tony Romo, (22) Jim Kelly
(3) Brian Hoyer, (3) Jamarcus Russell
Game Winning Drives:
(26) Tony Romo ....in 116 career starts.... that is 22 pct
(3) Brian Hoyer ...in 10 career starts....that is 30 pct.
4Th QTR Comebacks
(22) Tony Romo, ...that is 18.9%
(3) Brian Hoyer, that is 30% (and he holds the record for largest comeback)
So, there's that ....
Zombo
--Thanks for the assist, gip, didn't see this lameass post first time through
Zombo said:
Game Winning Drives:
(26) Tony Romo ....in 116 career starts.... that is 22 pct
(3) Brian Hoyer ...in 10 career starts....that is 30 pct.
4Th QTR Comebacks
(22) Tony Romo, ...that is 18.9%
(3) Brian Hoyer, that is 30% (and he holds the record for largest comeback)
when is the parade fpor beating the Titans?
So, there's that ....
Zombo
--Thanks for the assist, gip, didn't see this lameass post first time through
you still dont get it, huh?
Hoyer is still in Jamarcus Russell company; lets tap the breaks on calling Romo out in comparison to Hoyer.
its not about percentages AND EVEN IF IT WAS.... Hoyer is 30, it's on Hoyer he is still in Ryan Leaf company.
jesus you guys love you some hoyer.
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Lets redo those percentages with games eligible for since coming into the league.,
it shouldn't be a knock against romo that hoyer was so terrible no one let him play.
to say it an easier way:
choking in the playoffs > getting cut from a practice squad.
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Lets redo those percentages with games eligible for since coming into the league.,
it shouldn't be a knock against romo that hoyer was so terrible no one let him play.
to say it an easier way:
choking in the playoffs > getting cut from a practice squad.
Lets redo those percentages with games eligible for since coming into the league.,
it shouldn't be a knock against romo that hoyer was so terrible no one let him play.
to say it an easier way:
choking in the playoffs > getting cut from a practice squad.
I can simplify it even further.
Winning > Losing.
Not choking > choking
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@everlastingxxx said:
Thats dangerous. Weeden has a strong running game to work with and he loves throwing to Dez Bryant (who i have on my fantasy team). I might even pick Weeden up on one of my teams because my QB is on a bye. I dont know if Romo is going to play. My guess is that he wont. He is pretty beat up.
If Weeden is the best back up QB available, you must be in a 48 team league.
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@everlastingxxx said:
Thats dangerous. Weeden has a strong running game to work with and he loves throwing to Dez Bryant (who i have on my fantasy team). I might even pick Weeden up on one of my teams because my QB is on a bye. I dont know if Romo is going to play. My guess is that he wont. He is pretty beat up.
If Weeden is the best back up QB available, you must be in a 48 team league.
If Weeden is the best back up QB available, you must be in a 48 team league.
HA!
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Zombo said:
Game Winning Drives:
(26) Tony Romo ....in 116 career starts.... that is 22 pct
(3) Brian Hoyer ...in 10 career starts....that is 30 pct.
4Th QTR Comebacks
(22) Tony Romo, ...that is 18.9%
(3) Brian Hoyer, that is 30% (and he holds the record for largest comeback)
when is the parade fpor beating the Titans?
So, there's that ....
Zombo
--Thanks for the assist, gip, didn't see this lameass post first time through
you still dont get it, huh?
Hoyer is still in Jamarcus Russell company; lets tap the breaks on calling Romo out in comparison to Hoyer.
its not about percentages AND EVEN IF IT WAS.... Hoyer is 30, it's on Hoyer he is still in Ryan Leaf company.
jesus you guys love you some hoyer.
@everlastingxxx said:
Thats dangerous. Weeden has a strong running game to work with and he loves throwing to Dez Bryant (who i have on my fantasy team). I might even pick Weeden up on one of my teams because my QB is on a bye. I dont know if Romo is going to play. My guess is that he wont. He is pretty beat up.
Cleveland fans are betting what you've seen out of Wee-done isn't the Wee-done Browns fans have come to know and love, The guy is capable of single handedly losing a game by himself.
you still dont get it, huh?
Hoyer is still in Jamarcus Russell company; lets tap the breaks on calling Romo out in comparison to Hoyer.
its not about percentages AND EVEN IF IT WAS.... Hoyer is 30, it's on Hoyer he is still in Ryan Leaf company.
jesus you guys love you some hoyer.
We love winning, something that hasn't happened to the Browns in a very long time.
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I agree with you there. The backhanded flip everybody keeps crying about probably wasn't called by Weeden himself. Also 1 of those 3 wins was thanks to a BW come back.@everlastingxxx said:
In my offseason boredom, i did watch the Browns 2013 season. I do agree he was pretty bad, especially the back handed tosses. In fairness, the Browns had no running game last year. I actually think the WRs talent is much improved this year over last years squad. Greg Little was terrible.
I do think the weapons and firepower around Weedon will make him look better. He has a live arm and i think he is a good guy.
I also like Johnny but until Brian Hoyer loses a few games because of inaccuracy poor play whatever I do not yank him.
The more time Johnny has to let the NFL sink in the better he will be when he gets thrust into the starting position for whatever reason.
WSS
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Lets redo those percentages with games eligible for since coming into the league.,
it shouldn't be a knock against romo that hoyer was so terrible no one let him play.
to say it an easier way:
choking in the playoffs > getting cut from a practice squad.
Lets redo those percentages with games eligible for since coming into the league.,
it shouldn't be a knock against romo that hoyer was so terrible no one let him play.
to say it an easier way:
choking in the playoffs > getting cut from a practice squad.
Again with the "He was a journeyman so what he's actually doing on the field doesn't matter" argument.
Why don't you just let it play out?
Oh .. Because you're not a Browns fan, you're a Cowboy fan with a raging boner for our backup QB. Which is really weird.
Do you have any Oklahoma St. fans interrupting your discussions of the Cowbows/Cards game with threads shitting on Romo to promote their interest in Weeden on your Cowboy boards?
Because that's what this is.
I actually like Romo.
What I don't like is you steerfuckers telling us what (you think) we don't know about our own team.
Z
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Lets redo those percentages with games eligible for since coming into the league.,
it shouldn't be a knock against romo that hoyer was so terrible no one let him play.
to say it an easier way:
choking in the playoffs > getting cut from a practice squad.
Again with the "He was a journeyman so what he's actually doing on the field doesn't matter" argument.
Why don't you just let it play out?
Oh .. Because you're not a Browns fan, you're a Cowboy fan with a raging boner for our backup QB. Which is really weird.
Do you have any Oklahoma St. fans interrupting your discussions of the Cowbows/Cards game with threads shitting on Romo to promote their interest in Weeden on your Cowboy boards?
Because that's what this is.
I actually like Romo.
What I don't like is you steerfuckers telling us what (you think) we don't know about our own team.
Z
Zombo said:
Oh .. Because you're not a Browns fan, you're a Cowboy fan with a raging boner for our backup QB. Which is really weird.
Do you have any Oklahoma St. fans interrupting your discussions of the Cowbows/Cards game with threads shitting on Romo to promote their interest in Weeden on your Cowboy boards?
What I don't like is you steerfuckers telling us what (you think) we don't know about our own team.
What is it with Texas fans and their QB's anyway????
The nuts came out when we drafted Colt McCoy. Told us he was god and our savior and would just win win win.
Then they REALLY came out for Johnny and still haven't left. Geez. I like Johnny, but his fans make me want to puke.
Now, they're telling us Weeden is good and filling our board with posts about an old broken Romo.
Huh? Did we draft the whole fuckin state or something???? Why are they here? Are the Browns now Americas team?
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@everlastingxxx said:
Thats dangerous. Weeden has a strong running game to work with and he loves throwing to Dez Bryant (who i have on my fantasy team). I might even pick Weeden up on one of my teams because my QB is on a bye. I dont know if Romo is going to play. My guess is that he wont. He is pretty beat up.
If Weeden is the best back up QB available, you must be in a 48 team league.
If Weeden is the best back up QB available, you must be in a 48 team league.
Now that's funny...
Cleveland fans are betting what you've seen out of Wee-done isn't the Wee-done Browns fans have come to know and love, The guy is capable of single handedly losing a game...
He's been working on his game and is now capable of losing with either hand...
@everlastingxxx said:
I do think the weapons and firepower around Weedon will make him look better. He has a live arm and i think he is a good guy.
Wheezy has a very strong arm and is as pure as driven snow, but you can't fix stupid.
Also if you thought Newton was displaying a lack of touch last nite, you ain't seen nothin' yet...
Huh? Did we draft the whole fuckin state or something???? Why are they here?
Yes... that is exactly what we did. Draft a star QB from TAMU or tu (AKA TU), and the legions will follow.
Just be thankful that it's looking like Colt will not get a chance to win 2 in a row... or his legions would be back.
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