Stockton Shorts Discusses Brian Hoyer
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Come on Stock, you're at a whole different level than us "simple minds", this should be easy for someone of your vast knowledge. What, are you scared to answer T's challenge? A know-it-all like you? We are all waiting for you to address the team Coach, time is ticking...........
Heres my talk to the team.
Hey guys, not good lately. It is clear that we're not contenders, especially without Mack. Not going to happen this year. The goal is to get you vets a Super Bowl before you retire so we're going to build for the future starting now. Brian Hoyer has been fine, but fine doesn't cut it at the QB position in this league so we're going to find out what we got in the kid. We will find a Super Bowl caliber QB in this few year window we have with you guys. We're not there yet, but we will continue to try and get there. Everybody give Brian a hand he's been adequate. He'll need some help moving this offseason so if any of you care to give him a hand with that. That'd be super. I'm sure he lives in an average house on average street so it'll be easy to find.
Heres my talk to the team.
Hey guys, not good lately. It is clear that we're not contenders, especially without Mack. Not going to happen this year. The goal is to get you vets a Super Bowl before you retire so we're going to build for the future starting now. Brian Hoyer has been fine, but fine doesn't cut it at the QB position in this league so we're going to find out what we got in the kid. We will find a Super Bowl caliber QB in this few year window we have with you guys. We're not there yet, but we will continue to try and get there. Everybody give Brian a hand he's been adequate. He'll need some help moving this offseason so if any of you care to give him a hand with that. That'd be super. I'm sure he lives in an average house on average street so it'll be easy to find.
"Hey guys, I know this franchise has been a machine taking in and churning out GMs, coaches, co-ordinators and QBs for the last 15 years, and yes I know we've finally found a QB who can lead this team to a winning record, but we're going to cut him, and throw in this rookie, to see if he can also win some games."
Well, you'd better go find a new LT because JT will walk out on you (ok maybe not literally). And Haden, Mack, and the rest of the guys that have had to put up with Weeden, McCoy, Wallace, Lewis, Campbell, and the rest of the dregs of the NFL's QBs since joining this team.
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He'd just trade them all for draft picks so he could draft more quarterbacks, because that's the only position that matters.
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This jackass is truly one for the books. He "loves" a team that is 5-3 and looks for every negative to bash the real fans with. He must think he is levatating above the rest of us. A win against Cinncy wont even shut him up.
And the whole "U cant wrap your head around" arguement is really getting old. Find new material TROLL.
This is the same tool if JF started the year and was 1-7 would be blaimming Mack, running game, wrs, coaches, media, fans, his dog, Hoyer on the bench, and himself for not getting enough people to share a blowjob sandwhich with him. Telling us we just need to be patient JF just wins when that is all that Hoyer is doing.
You sir I hope you quietly and descretly hit a tree in some abandoned farm field. I dont want you to Die. I want you to suffer withour food and water for days untill someone finds you and lets hope its not Brian Hoyer.
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Which forum member yammers away with the same thing, has a lame avatar and isn't liked by almost every other member?
Here's a hint, he loves the color coral.
Well "has a lame avatar" could be just about anyone on here, but not liked by almost every other member and likes "Coral"? I bet thats me you're talking about.
Now your turn, who is dead last in the NFL in 3rd down passing?
Well "has a lame avatar" could be just about anyone on here, but not liked by almost every other member and likes "Coral"? I bet thats me you're talking about.
Now your turn, who is dead last in the NFL in 3rd down passing?
Is it the same guy that is now 8-3 as a starting QB for the Cleveland Browns? Which would be just about best in the history of the franchise behind Otto Graham?
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Get it in now folks.
I understand you're on cloud 9 right now, and you need to get it all out ASAP. If I'm Brian Hoyer I am working my fingers to the bone dialing numbers to the Browns FO trying to work out a contract before Thursday, because the skies are going to get gray fast.
I'd love to respond to each one of you one by one but theres just too many, so you can all come here to get your answers.
Brian Hoyer has been playing sub par football the last 4 games. Sub Par. If he plays the same on Thursday, no chance Browns win. None.
He's barely been good enough to keep his job to this point, let alone convince anyone hes a Franchise QB
"BUT STOCKTON THE RUN GAME!" I know I know and as I've been telling you since Jacksonville its less about Mack being out and more about teams are LOADING up to stop the run because they have ZERO faith in Brian Hoyer. ZERO. We played the 3 worst teams in the league, they all used this strategy and we almost lost to all 3. What do you think will happen against good teams? The book is out.
Brian Hoyer is the reason the run game is awful now. He's the reason. Not Mack. Centers get hurt all the time, is it great? Nope. Would it be better if he was in there? Yep. But even with Mack teams would be loading up to stop the run just the same. Thats why this offense looks awful now, thats why we can't run, because of Brian Hoyer. He's not good enough to scare teams into playing balanced.
And I have no doubt none of you understand that, because you're small time people, I've explained this before. You won't understand what I'm saying, and thats fine, but it is what it is.
The run game sucks because Brian Hoyer is the least feared QB in the league. Now to his credit he's done barely enough to win against Oakland and the Bucs, thank god they were terrible, but the terrible teams are over now.
It will get ugly. Starting Thursday. Everything I have said over and over about the Browns wasting their time will become evident very quickly.
Brian Hoyer is a Miller Light in a Champaign League and every team knows it and are only defending the run because of it. We got away with it against two of the worst pass Ds in the league BARELY....shit is about to change fast.
Like I said, you can't see the big picture. You're too small time for it. "Oh why is the run game bad?" Because of Hoyer "NU UH YOU IDIOT" Yes. I know you don't get it, but theres a lot of things that are true that you don't get.
Scan across national media today. Browns are 5-3 today and are they plastered over SI.com? ESPN.com? CBSports? Anybody even paying attention? Seems like it'd be a great story right? Nope, nobody is even talking about the Browns. Nobody believes this is anything but smoke and mirrors and nobody cares because its all phony and they know it.
Read the MMQB by Peter King today. Fucking Novel he writes every week on the previous week, the only time he mentions the Browns is to mention McCoy blowing up McDonald. Thats it.
Thats what Brian Hoyer is. Invisible and a Nobody. Thats what you all have been grinning ear to ear about. Thats what all of you want more of. Nothingness.
You're happy to be mediocre. Well you've reached the apex of just that. Live it up.
Get it in now fellas. You got three more days of this fantasy. -
I read the first two pages of this thread and got so bored that I decided to move on.
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He is so starved for attention he's back to posting the same exact thing in multiple threads. Must suck to be the only one who is unhappy that the Browns are winning games.
He is so starved for attention he's back to posting the same exact thing in multiple threads. Must suck to be the only one who is unhappy that the Browns are winning games.
It sucks to be smart enough to realize how hollow it is and how its going nowhere.
Yes it does.
It must be amazing to be dumb. I mean it. It must be amazing to be stupid. Has to be wonderful to be oblivious to everything.
For us smart people, it is a burden to have to deal with reality.
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First, love the new thread title. Kudos to the Mod...
Second, I read as far as Stockboy's "analysis" of our run woes. Loading the box... so funny... so detached from reality.
Stockboy, you are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
First, love the new thread title. Kudos to the Mod...
Second, I read as far as Stockboy's "analysis" of our run woes. Loading the box... so funny... so detached from reality.
Stockboy, you are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts...
First, love the new thread title. Kudos to the Mod...
Second, I read as far as Stockboy's "analysis" of our run woes. Loading the box... so funny... so detached from reality.
Stockboy, you are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts...
I've been telling you since Jacksonville that the reason why we can't run the ball is because teams are loading the box, playing 1 on 1 on the wideouts. Zero fear of Brian Hoyer. Zero.
You do that against a Top 10 QB and they throw for 450 Yards and 4 TDs, they would torch you, Hoyer struggles to score against the worst Pass Defenses in the league playing 1 on 1 on his receivers.
The reason we can't run is because of Hoyer. Teams are only playing against the run. Dedicating their entire defense to the run, I've been telling you this for three weeks its time you pay attention.
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First, love the new thread title. Kudos to the Mod...
Second, I read as far as Stockboy's "analysis" of our run woes. Loading the box... so funny... so detached from reality.
Stockboy, you are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts...
Stockboy, you are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts...
Oh no....Thank fucking god he's here to give us his opinion because he's smarter than all of us. He's apparently also smarter than Steve Young about playing QB in the NFL but what would that stiff know about playing QB anyways.
I'm just so so thankful each day to read the incredible wisdom of Stockboy shits that I can't wait to get here to see what new brilliance he has to offer.
Sadly it's just the same drivel over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.....
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>"<a href="https://twitter.com/zimbardi10">@zimbardi10</a> i feel everyone yells about the run game. But i think its just teams loading the box to make hoyer beat them.// Bada bing-o.</p>— Tony Grossi (@TonyGrossi) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyGrossi/status/529370881517027328">November 3, 2014</a></blockquote><script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script><blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Loss of Mack is huge, teams are now selling out to stop run, see if Browns can beat them with pass. Hoyer better then getting credit so far</p>— Joe Banner (@JoeBanner13) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeBanner13/status/529375582942162945">November 3, 2014</a></blockquote><script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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I've been saying it for 3 weeks.
PS- Jesus Christ this outdated message board can't support twitter embeds? Fine I'll copy and paste like the cavemen did.
Loss of Mack is huge, teams are now selling out to stop run, see if Browns can beat them with pass. Hoyer better then getting credit so far
"@zimbardi10 i feel everyone yells about the run game. But i think its just teams loading the box to make hoyer beat them.// Bada bing-o.
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Get it in now folks.
I understand you're on cloud 9 right now, and you need to get it all out ASAP. If I'm Brian Hoyer I am working my fingers to the bone dialing numbers to the Browns FO trying to work out a contract before Thursday, because the skies are going to get gray fast.
I'd love to respond to each one of you one by one but theres just too many, so you can all come here to get your answers.
Brian Hoyer has been playing sub par football the last 4 games. Sub Par. If he plays the same on Thursday, no chance Browns win. None.
He's barely been good enough to keep his job to this point, let alone convince anyone hes a Franchise QB
"BUT STOCKTON THE RUN GAME!" I know I know and as I've been telling you since Jacksonville its less about Mack being out and more about teams are LOADING up to stop the run because they have ZERO faith in Brian Hoyer. ZERO. We played the 3 worst teams in the league, they all used this strategy and we almost lost to all 3. What do you think will happen against good teams? The book is out.
Brian Hoyer is the reason the run game is awful now. He's the reason. Not Mack. Centers get hurt all the time, is it great? Nope. Would it be better if he was in there? Yep. But even with Mack teams would be loading up to stop the run just the same. Thats why this offense looks awful now, thats why we can't run, because of Brian Hoyer. He's not good enough to scare teams into playing balanced.
And I have no doubt none of you understand that, because you're small time people, I've explained this before. You won't understand what I'm saying, and thats fine, but it is what it is.
The run game sucks because Brian Hoyer is the least feared QB in the league. Now to his credit he's done barely enough to win against Oakland and the Bucs, thank god they were terrible, but the terrible teams are over now.
It will get ugly. Starting Thursday. Everything I have said over and over about the Browns wasting their time will become evident very quickly.
Brian Hoyer is a Miller Light in a Champaign League and every team knows it and are only defending the run because of it. We got away with it against two of the worst pass Ds in the league BARELY....shit is about to change fast.
Like I said, you can't see the big picture. You're too small time for it. "Oh why is the run game bad?" Because of Hoyer "NU UH YOU IDIOT" Yes. I know you don't get it, but theres a lot of things that are true that you don't get.
Scan across national media today. Browns are 5-3 today and are they plastered over SI.com? ESPN.com? CBSports? Anybody even paying attention? Seems like it'd be a great story right? Nope, nobody is even talking about the Browns. Nobody believes this is anything but smoke and mirrors and nobody cares because its all phony and they know it.
Read the MMQB by Peter King today. Fucking Novel he writes every week on the previous week, the only time he mentions the Browns is to mention McCoy blowing up McDonald. Thats it.
Thats what Brian Hoyer is. Invisible and a Nobody. Thats what you all have been grinning ear to ear about. Thats what all of you want more of. Nothingness.
You're happy to be mediocre. Well you've reached the apex of just that. Live it up.
Get it in now fellas. You got three more days of this fantasy.Brian Hoyer is the reason the run game is awful now. He's the reason. Not Mack. Centers get hurt all the time, is it great? Nope. Would it be better if he was in there? Yep. But even with Mack teams would be loading up to stop the run just the same. Thats why this offense looks awful now, thats why we can't run, because of Brian Hoyer. He's not good enough to scare teams into playing balanced.
(Many other self-serving words of little or no import...)
Read the MMQB by Peter King today. Fucking Novel he writes every week on the previous week, the only time he mentions the Browns is to mention McCoy blowing up McDonald. Thats it.
I love when posts are long enough that they contradict themselves before they conclude. But this one was not so long that an average brain pan, let alone a superior one, should have been able to keep track.
Thats what Brian Hoyer is. Invisible and a Nobody.
Then how is Hoyer not your hero?
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First, love the new thread title. Kudos to the Mod...
Second, I read as far as Stockboy's "analysis" of our run woes. Loading the box... so funny... so detached from reality.
Stockboy, you are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts...
I've been telling you since Jacksonville that the reason why we can't run the ball is because teams are loading the box, playing 1 on 1 on the wideouts. Zero fear of Brian Hoyer. Zero.
You do that against a Top 10 QB and they throw for 450 Yards and 4 TDs, they would torch you, Hoyer struggles to score against the worst Pass Defenses in the league playing 1 on 1 on his receivers.
The reason we can't run is because of Hoyer. Teams are only playing against the run. Dedicating their entire defense to the run, I've been telling you this for three weeks its time you pay attention.
I've been telling you since Jacksonville that the reason why we can't run the ball is because teams are loading the box, playing 1 on 1 on the wideouts. Zero fear of Brian Hoyer. Zero.
... and I have been posting "Box Counts" for two-weeks running showing that you are full of shit...
So there's that...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
"Brian Hoyer is not a franchise QB. The Browns will win less games against a tougher schedule.
These observations make me smarter than everyone else. Browns fans are all dumb. I will repeat this 57 more times in this thread, I will just word it differently each time. Because I'm smarter than you."
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I've been telling you since Jacksonville that the reason why we can't run the ball is because teams are loading the box, playing 1 on 1 on the wideouts. Zero fear of Brian Hoyer. Zero.
... and I have been posting "Box Counts" for two-weeks running showing that you are full of shit...
So there's that...
... and I have been posting "Box Counts" for two-weeks running showing that you are full of shit...
So there's that...
Well then, if you're paying that much attention and still can't see it, maybe its time to hang it up bud.
The secret is out on the Browns. Stop the run. Thats all you gotta do.
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"Brian Hoyer is not a franchise QB. The Browns will win less games against a tougher schedule.
These observations make me smarter than everyone else. Browns fans are all dumb. I will repeat this 57 more times in this thread, I will just word it differently each time. Because I'm smarter than you."
Zombo said:
"Brian Hoyer is not a franchise QB. The Browns will win less games against a tougher schedule.
These observations make me smarter than everyone else. Browns fans are all dumb. I will repeat this 57 more times in this thread, I will just word it differently each time. Because I'm smarter than you."
How dare you not put "Brian Hoyer is a Miller Light in a Champagne League" in there? Its called a "catch-phrase" for a reason.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>"<a href="https://twitter.com/zimbardi10">@zimbardi10</a> i feel everyone yells about the run game. But i think its just teams loading the box to make hoyer beat them.// Bada bing-o.</p>— Tony Grossi (@TonyGrossi) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyGrossi/status/529370881517027328">November 3, 2014</a></blockquote><script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script><blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Loss of Mack is huge, teams are now selling out to stop run, see if Browns can beat them with pass. Hoyer better then getting credit so far</p>— Joe Banner (@JoeBanner13) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeBanner13/status/529375582942162945">November 3, 2014</a></blockquote><script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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I've been saying it for 3 weeks.
PS- Jesus Christ this outdated message board can't support twitter embeds? Fine I'll copy and paste like the cavemen did.
Loss of Mack is huge, teams are now selling out to stop run, see if Browns can beat them with pass. Hoyer better then getting credit so far
"@zimbardi10 i feel everyone yells about the run game. But i think its just teams loading the box to make hoyer beat them.// Bada bing-o.
Loss of Mack is huge, teams are now selling out to stop run, see if Browns can beat them with pass. Hoyer better then getting credit so far "@zimbardi10 i feel everyone yells about the run game. But i think its just teams loading the box to make hoyer beat them.// Bada bing-o.
I'm sorry... Banner saying Mack's loss is huge supports your position how?
And then you cite Grossi "thinks" they're loading the box? Data? I have some to spare...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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