Stockton Shorts Discusses Brian Hoyer
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First, love the new thread title. Kudos to the Mod...
Second, I read as far as Stockboy's "analysis" of our run woes. Loading the box... so funny... so detached from reality.
Stockboy, you are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts...
Stockboy, you are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts...
Oh no....Thank fucking god he's here to give us his opinion because he's smarter than all of us. He's apparently also smarter than Steve Young about playing QB in the NFL but what would that stiff know about playing QB anyways.
I'm just so so thankful each day to read the incredible wisdom of Stockboy shits that I can't wait to get here to see what new brilliance he has to offer.
Sadly it's just the same drivel over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.....
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>"<a href="https://twitter.com/zimbardi10">@zimbardi10</a> i feel everyone yells about the run game. But i think its just teams loading the box to make hoyer beat them.// Bada bing-o.</p>— Tony Grossi (@TonyGrossi) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyGrossi/status/529370881517027328">November 3, 2014</a></blockquote><script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script><blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Loss of Mack is huge, teams are now selling out to stop run, see if Browns can beat them with pass. Hoyer better then getting credit so far</p>— Joe Banner (@JoeBanner13) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeBanner13/status/529375582942162945">November 3, 2014</a></blockquote><script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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I've been saying it for 3 weeks.
PS- Jesus Christ this outdated message board can't support twitter embeds? Fine I'll copy and paste like the cavemen did.
Loss of Mack is huge, teams are now selling out to stop run, see if Browns can beat them with pass. Hoyer better then getting credit so far
"@zimbardi10 i feel everyone yells about the run game. But i think its just teams loading the box to make hoyer beat them.// Bada bing-o.
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Get it in now folks.
I understand you're on cloud 9 right now, and you need to get it all out ASAP. If I'm Brian Hoyer I am working my fingers to the bone dialing numbers to the Browns FO trying to work out a contract before Thursday, because the skies are going to get gray fast.
I'd love to respond to each one of you one by one but theres just too many, so you can all come here to get your answers.
Brian Hoyer has been playing sub par football the last 4 games. Sub Par. If he plays the same on Thursday, no chance Browns win. None.
He's barely been good enough to keep his job to this point, let alone convince anyone hes a Franchise QB
"BUT STOCKTON THE RUN GAME!" I know I know and as I've been telling you since Jacksonville its less about Mack being out and more about teams are LOADING up to stop the run because they have ZERO faith in Brian Hoyer. ZERO. We played the 3 worst teams in the league, they all used this strategy and we almost lost to all 3. What do you think will happen against good teams? The book is out.
Brian Hoyer is the reason the run game is awful now. He's the reason. Not Mack. Centers get hurt all the time, is it great? Nope. Would it be better if he was in there? Yep. But even with Mack teams would be loading up to stop the run just the same. Thats why this offense looks awful now, thats why we can't run, because of Brian Hoyer. He's not good enough to scare teams into playing balanced.
And I have no doubt none of you understand that, because you're small time people, I've explained this before. You won't understand what I'm saying, and thats fine, but it is what it is.
The run game sucks because Brian Hoyer is the least feared QB in the league. Now to his credit he's done barely enough to win against Oakland and the Bucs, thank god they were terrible, but the terrible teams are over now.
It will get ugly. Starting Thursday. Everything I have said over and over about the Browns wasting their time will become evident very quickly.
Brian Hoyer is a Miller Light in a Champaign League and every team knows it and are only defending the run because of it. We got away with it against two of the worst pass Ds in the league BARELY....shit is about to change fast.
Like I said, you can't see the big picture. You're too small time for it. "Oh why is the run game bad?" Because of Hoyer "NU UH YOU IDIOT" Yes. I know you don't get it, but theres a lot of things that are true that you don't get.
Scan across national media today. Browns are 5-3 today and are they plastered over SI.com? ESPN.com? CBSports? Anybody even paying attention? Seems like it'd be a great story right? Nope, nobody is even talking about the Browns. Nobody believes this is anything but smoke and mirrors and nobody cares because its all phony and they know it.
Read the MMQB by Peter King today. Fucking Novel he writes every week on the previous week, the only time he mentions the Browns is to mention McCoy blowing up McDonald. Thats it.
Thats what Brian Hoyer is. Invisible and a Nobody. Thats what you all have been grinning ear to ear about. Thats what all of you want more of. Nothingness.
You're happy to be mediocre. Well you've reached the apex of just that. Live it up.
Get it in now fellas. You got three more days of this fantasy.Brian Hoyer is the reason the run game is awful now. He's the reason. Not Mack. Centers get hurt all the time, is it great? Nope. Would it be better if he was in there? Yep. But even with Mack teams would be loading up to stop the run just the same. Thats why this offense looks awful now, thats why we can't run, because of Brian Hoyer. He's not good enough to scare teams into playing balanced.
(Many other self-serving words of little or no import...)
Read the MMQB by Peter King today. Fucking Novel he writes every week on the previous week, the only time he mentions the Browns is to mention McCoy blowing up McDonald. Thats it.
I love when posts are long enough that they contradict themselves before they conclude. But this one was not so long that an average brain pan, let alone a superior one, should have been able to keep track.
Thats what Brian Hoyer is. Invisible and a Nobody.
Then how is Hoyer not your hero?
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First, love the new thread title. Kudos to the Mod...
Second, I read as far as Stockboy's "analysis" of our run woes. Loading the box... so funny... so detached from reality.
Stockboy, you are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts...
I've been telling you since Jacksonville that the reason why we can't run the ball is because teams are loading the box, playing 1 on 1 on the wideouts. Zero fear of Brian Hoyer. Zero.
You do that against a Top 10 QB and they throw for 450 Yards and 4 TDs, they would torch you, Hoyer struggles to score against the worst Pass Defenses in the league playing 1 on 1 on his receivers.
The reason we can't run is because of Hoyer. Teams are only playing against the run. Dedicating their entire defense to the run, I've been telling you this for three weeks its time you pay attention.
I've been telling you since Jacksonville that the reason why we can't run the ball is because teams are loading the box, playing 1 on 1 on the wideouts. Zero fear of Brian Hoyer. Zero.
... and I have been posting "Box Counts" for two-weeks running showing that you are full of shit...
So there's that...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
"Brian Hoyer is not a franchise QB. The Browns will win less games against a tougher schedule.
These observations make me smarter than everyone else. Browns fans are all dumb. I will repeat this 57 more times in this thread, I will just word it differently each time. Because I'm smarter than you."
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I've been telling you since Jacksonville that the reason why we can't run the ball is because teams are loading the box, playing 1 on 1 on the wideouts. Zero fear of Brian Hoyer. Zero.
... and I have been posting "Box Counts" for two-weeks running showing that you are full of shit...
So there's that...
... and I have been posting "Box Counts" for two-weeks running showing that you are full of shit...
So there's that...
Well then, if you're paying that much attention and still can't see it, maybe its time to hang it up bud.
The secret is out on the Browns. Stop the run. Thats all you gotta do.
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"Brian Hoyer is not a franchise QB. The Browns will win less games against a tougher schedule.
These observations make me smarter than everyone else. Browns fans are all dumb. I will repeat this 57 more times in this thread, I will just word it differently each time. Because I'm smarter than you."
Zombo said:
"Brian Hoyer is not a franchise QB. The Browns will win less games against a tougher schedule.
These observations make me smarter than everyone else. Browns fans are all dumb. I will repeat this 57 more times in this thread, I will just word it differently each time. Because I'm smarter than you."
How dare you not put "Brian Hoyer is a Miller Light in a Champagne League" in there? Its called a "catch-phrase" for a reason.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>"<a href="https://twitter.com/zimbardi10">@zimbardi10</a> i feel everyone yells about the run game. But i think its just teams loading the box to make hoyer beat them.// Bada bing-o.</p>— Tony Grossi (@TonyGrossi) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyGrossi/status/529370881517027328">November 3, 2014</a></blockquote><script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script><blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Loss of Mack is huge, teams are now selling out to stop run, see if Browns can beat them with pass. Hoyer better then getting credit so far</p>— Joe Banner (@JoeBanner13) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeBanner13/status/529375582942162945">November 3, 2014</a></blockquote><script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
http://www.covers.com/articles/articles.aspx?theArt=391958
I've been saying it for 3 weeks.
PS- Jesus Christ this outdated message board can't support twitter embeds? Fine I'll copy and paste like the cavemen did.
Loss of Mack is huge, teams are now selling out to stop run, see if Browns can beat them with pass. Hoyer better then getting credit so far
"@zimbardi10 i feel everyone yells about the run game. But i think its just teams loading the box to make hoyer beat them.// Bada bing-o.
Loss of Mack is huge, teams are now selling out to stop run, see if Browns can beat them with pass. Hoyer better then getting credit so far "@zimbardi10 i feel everyone yells about the run game. But i think its just teams loading the box to make hoyer beat them.// Bada bing-o.
I'm sorry... Banner saying Mack's loss is huge supports your position how?
And then you cite Grossi "thinks" they're loading the box? Data? I have some to spare...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
... and I have been posting "Box Counts" for two-weeks running showing that you are full of shit...
So there's that...
Well then, if you're paying that much attention and still can't see it, maybe its time to hang it up bud.
The secret is out on the Browns. Stop the run. Thats all you gotta do.
Well then, if you're paying that much attention and still can't see it, maybe its time to hang it up bud.
The secret is out on the Browns. Stop the run. Thats all you gotta do.
Try as I might, I will never see your mirages...
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See ya 'round, Stockboy...
The end is near...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Zombo said:
"Brian Hoyer is not a franchise QB. The Browns will win less games against a tougher schedule.
These observations make me smarter than everyone else. Browns fans are all dumb. I will repeat this 57 more times in this thread, I will just word it differently each time. Because I'm smarter than you."
How dare you not put "Brian Hoyer is a Miller Light in a Champagne League" in there? Its called a "catch-phrase" for a reason.
How dare you not put "Brian Hoyer is a Miller Light in a Champaign League" in there? Its called a "catch-phrase" for a reason.
It's not even spelled right.
Mr. Smart Guy.
Zombo
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How dare you not put "Brian Hoyer is a Miller Light in a Champaign League" in there? Its called a "catch-phrase" for a reason.
It's not even spelled right.
Mr. Smart Guy.
Zombo
Zombo said:
It's not even spelled right.
Mr. Smart Guy.
Zombo
Well correct it and I'll give you a residual from the Tshirt Sales. Just do not dare to leave it out.
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First, love the new thread title. Kudos to the Mod...
Second, I read as far as Stockboy's "analysis" of our run woes. Loading the box... so funny... so detached from reality.
Stockboy, you are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts...
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Did Ghoolie bang a black girl is his younger years by chance?
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Did Ghoolie bang a black girl is his younger years by chance?
BWAHAHA!!!!!
are those the gay shorts they wear in stockton?
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... and I have been posting "Box Counts" for two-weeks running showing that you are full of shit...
So there's that...
Well then, if you're paying that much attention and still can't see it, maybe its time to hang it up bud.
The secret is out on the Browns. Stop the run. Thats all you gotta do.
Well then, if you're paying that much attention and still can't see it, maybe its time to hang it up bud.
The secret is out on the Browns. Stop the run. Thats all you gotta do.
Clearly not.....because the last two teams stopped the Browns from running, and the Browns won. So, go back to the drawing board.
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Loss of Mack is huge, teams are now selling out to stop run, see if Browns can beat them with pass. Hoyer better then getting credit so far "@zimbardi10 i feel everyone yells about the run game. But i think its just teams loading the box to make hoyer beat them.// Bada bing-o.
I'm sorry... Banner saying Mack's loss is huge supports your position how?
And then you cite Grossi "thinks" they're loading the box? Data? I have some to spare...
I'm sorry... Banner saying Mack's loss is huge supports your position how?
And then you cite Grossi "thinks" they're loading the box? Data? I have some to spare...
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/147127/buccaneers-vs-browns-preview
"The Browns haven’t been able to run the ball effectively the past few games. What’s gone wrong?
McManamon: The easy answer is to say the Browns lost their Pro Bowl center. Without Alex Mack the Browns aren’t even averaging 2 yards a carry the past two games. Clearly that’s a factor. But the bigger factor is that Jacksonville and Oakland dared the Browns to throw by loading the box with a safety to protect against the run. It’s no secret that Kyle Shanahan’s offense is built around the ability to run and play-action, so teams are trying to take the run away and negate play-action."
Maybe its time to reevaluate how you "Box Count" Tour.
Browns can't run because of Brian Hoyer. Teams don't believe in him. 3 Worst teams in the league and almost lost to all 3 and they all ran the same scheme. Three worst teams in the league outscored the Browns 54-51. Browns scored only 1 TD that wasn't off a turnover in 3 games against the worst teams in the league.
The Book is out. Thursday is going to be a loss because of it.
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Hoyer is on pace for what, 4000yds 20 TDs 8 INTs at about a 59% completion rate.
Check out Hall Of Famer Eli's career numbers.
Check out Super Bowl MVP Joe Flaccos.
Kaepernick helps his team win some games, and he just about single handedly loses them a few too. I'd rather have boring ass Brian Hoyer, or Alex Smith, than that at QB.
If you think for 1 second that last comment you made is a true statement, then you have to quit talking. Have to. Brian Hoyer isn't even close to Alex Smiths ability and Alex Smith was ousted for Kaepernick and the Niners only got better.
If you can't see a difference, just by talent, if you can not see a difference between Joe Flacco and Eli and Brian Hoyer, then you're drunk in love. You're beyond saving. Everyone loves to rail against the "Manziel Lovers" who don't really exist on this board and you can't see the love affair you all have with Brian Hoyer where you act like hes something he never has been nor never will be. He's not in the same class as Flacco and Eli and he's not in the class behind the class of those two.
Like I said, I don't blame you people for loving Hoyer. He is a small time nobody getting his shot. You relate to him. He's the extension of you. Someone time will quickly forget ever existed and is completely unremarkable in every way. You see yourself in him. You're comfortable with Hoyer.
Hoyer will never, ever ever be a Super Bowl winning QB. If you want to say that statement is false, then do so. Put it on paper and don't do this "Oh we don't know" yes we do. We do. Luck will be a Super Bowl winning QB, I know it and you know it. Hoyer will never sniff a Super Bowl. If you disagree with that then say it clearly. Say "I believe Hoyer will win a Super Bowl". If you don't make that statement then you must agree with me.
If my statement is true, that Hoyer will never sniff a Super Bowl, then again what the FUCK are we talking about here? Huh? We have a guy that even his biggest supporters don't think can win a Super Bowl and you want him to be the Franchise QB?
What sense does that make?
No they didn't. The Niners stayed the same and never returned to the SuperBowl. Road the back of an amazing defense, punishing run game and smart field position. I also believe their passing offense was rated 30th overall in Kaep's first year as a full time starter.If you think for 1 second that last comment you made is a true statement, then you have to quit talking. Have to. Brian Hoyer isn't even close to Alex Smiths ability and Alex Smith was ousted for Kaepernick and the Niners only got better.
If you can't see a difference, just by talent, if you can not see a difference between Joe Flacco and Eli and Brian Hoyer, then you're drunk in love. You're beyond saving. Everyone loves to rail against the "Manziel Lovers" who don't really exist on this board and you can't see the love affair you all have with Brian Hoyer where you act like hes something he never has been nor never will be. He's not in the same class as Flacco and Eli and he's not in the class behind the class of those two.
I'd put Flacco and Hoyer together. Flacco has a stronger arm, but was upheld by a top 3 defense his entire young career. I took Pittsburgh & the Patriots decline plus a miracle blunder by Rahim Moore to get to the Super Bowl. Also, that team went on the back of some of the best Oline play I've ever seen in the post season coupled with Anquan Boldin going beast mode and snagging everything throw at him and away from him. Is flacco an elite QB? No.
Like I said, I don't blame you people for loving Hoyer. He is a small time nobody getting his shot. You relate to him. He's the extension of you. Someone time will quickly forget ever existed and is completely unremarkable in every way. You see yourself in him. You're comfortable with Hoyer.
Well, fuck you bitch. - from all of us "small time nobody's"
What sense goes your post make?! If the guy can't win the SuperBowl then pull him!??Hoyer will never, ever ever be a Super Bowl winning QB. If you want to say that statement is false, then do so. Put it on paper and don't do this "Oh we don't know" yes we do. We do. Luck will be a Super Bowl winning QB, I know it and you know it. Hoyer will never sniff a Super Bowl. If you disagree with that then say it clearly. Say "I believe Hoyer will win a Super Bowl". If you don't make that statement then you must agree with me.
If my statement is true, that Hoyer will never sniff a Super Bowl, then again what the FUCK are we talking about here? Huh? We have a guy that even his biggest supporters don't think can win a Super Bowl and you want him to be the Franchise QB?
What sense does that make?
Let me flip that the fuck around. Do you think Manziel will win the Super Bowl? With this same
Roster ? If not, then what's the point of playing him? To see " what you have"...?!?! You know you have
An extremely raw playing with great potential but needs to work on the most basic fundamentals of his craft. So again... What is the point?!?
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