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Stockton Shorts Discusses Brian Hoyer

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  • Needless to say after our road win against CIN, we are all beginning to see the wisdom in StocktonShorts' words...

    ... NOT!

    WAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...............

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196

  • Bengals made the same mistake all of you are begging the Browns to make, they took a guy with average talent and made him their Franchise
    Now they're fucked.

    I told my Bengal fan over and over and over "Dalton isn't the guy" and he said "But he wins, he gets us to the playoffs" and everytime I'd say "He doesn't have the talent" he'd repeat Daltons record over and over. 30-18 this past offseason.

    Bengals signed him up for 6 years 115 Mil and the very FIRST thing they said was his record. 30-18, two playoff appearances. Sometimes its ugly but he gets wins.


    Sound familiar?

    Thats why you don't take average talent and make him your Franchise.

    "BUT STOCKTON YOU SAID HOYER WOULD LOSE!!!"

    I know all of you are going to say it, and this Bengals game had ZERO to do with Brian Hoyer. ZERO. He had an ok game. I saw one pass that was a great pass and a ton of passes that went to WRs with nobody within 5 yards of them.

    90% of all Hoyers throws, if he DIDN'T complete it he'd be selling insurance by now.

    He's an average talent, and now hes going to be asking big money and if the Browns give it to him (which they wont) thats the end of the Franchise. Kiss everyone goodbye in 3 years as it'll be starting all over, all over again. And now you got them on NFL network talking $100Mil contract??? Is this real life?

    You don't take an average QB and make him your Franchise. You don't keep quoting a record and ignore the actual ability. You do that, and you ruin your Franchise.


    By the way you can not tell me about any Manziel lovers...they don't exist....they don't exist....meanwhile there are fans CHANTING "BRAIN HOYER" Chanting it. Ignoring the rest of the team, and acting like Hoyer is the CAUSE of these wins and not just the QB that they're working with. 15/23 for 198 Yards and 0 TDs and people are CHANTING his name on the road?! And you wonder why I can't believe you people.

    There are FAR more Hoyer zealots who give him far too much credit and zero blame, then there has EVER been Manziel lovers.

    You people are in love with his story and ignore the reality of his talent.

    If the Browns Front Office are dumb enough to buy into it, just like the Bengals did with Dalton.....Kiss any chance of a Super Bowl goodbye.

    hoortaH 1 Reply

  • And goodbye to you, sir.

  • the sociopath just posted another thread.

    unbelievable. seriously.

  • lol... I cannot believe I did not see this coming...

    Dude... you could fuck up a wet dream...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196

  • so stupid... ugh 😠

  • Im pretty sure any qb who misses 90% of his throws would be selling insurance.

    Your dumb

    First Place!!!!!!!!

  • truly, truly unbelievable.

    a browns board sociopath terrorist.

  • Hoyer was in a zone, didnt need to pass the 2nd half..

  • After further review...

    StockBoy is right...

    We did not stop Hoyer when we had the chance...

    And now it may be too late...

    We may just have to continue winning in spite of him...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196

  • and i dont even need to justify why brian hoyer is the man, because its not worth it, but if hoyer was on the bengals he'd have top 5 stats in the league. if you cant watch a game and see hoyer has the intangibles and ability of a legitimate winning quarterback then idk what to tell you. just unbelievable i had to read this when i was excited

  • Sooo..... Are you a Browns fan?

    Would you make a thread like this after a super bowl win with Brian Hoyer under center?

  • Good bye...don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. The Browns are in first fucking place dickwad.

  • he's no browns fan. he's a brown's hater as long as JF doesn't see the field. so unless someone just flushes this dude away for good he'll be here like this through thick and thin until his gayfriend plays.

  • Lmfao Stockton! Loving my browns!

  • If you're not excited about Brian hoyer and his browns you're delusional

  • StocktonShortsS StocktonShorts

    Bengals made the same mistake all of you are begging the Browns to make, they took a guy with average talent and made him their Franchise
    Now they're fucked.

    I told my Bengal fan over and over and over "Dalton isn't the guy" and he said "But he wins, he gets us to the playoffs" and everytime I'd say "He doesn't have the talent" he'd repeat Daltons record over and over. 30-18 this past offseason.

    Bengals signed him up for 6 years 115 Mil and the very FIRST thing they said was his record. 30-18, two playoff appearances. Sometimes its ugly but he gets wins.


    Sound familiar?

    Thats why you don't take average talent and make him your Franchise.

    "BUT STOCKTON YOU SAID HOYER WOULD LOSE!!!"

    I know all of you are going to say it, and this Bengals game had ZERO to do with Brian Hoyer. ZERO. He had an ok game. I saw one pass that was a great pass and a ton of passes that went to WRs with nobody within 5 yards of them.

    90% of all Hoyers throws, if he DIDN'T complete it he'd be selling insurance by now.

    He's an average talent, and now hes going to be asking big money and if the Browns give it to him (which they wont) thats the end of the Franchise. Kiss everyone goodbye in 3 years as it'll be starting all over, all over again. And now you got them on NFL network talking $100Mil contract??? Is this real life?

    You don't take an average QB and make him your Franchise. You don't keep quoting a record and ignore the actual ability. You do that, and you ruin your Franchise.


    By the way you can not tell me about any Manziel lovers...they don't exist....they don't exist....meanwhile there are fans CHANTING "BRAIN HOYER" Chanting it. Ignoring the rest of the team, and acting like Hoyer is the CAUSE of these wins and not just the QB that they're working with. 15/23 for 198 Yards and 0 TDs and people are CHANTING his name on the road?! And you wonder why I can't believe you people.

    There are FAR more Hoyer zealots who give him far too much credit and zero blame, then there has EVER been Manziel lovers.

    You people are in love with his story and ignore the reality of his talent.

    If the Browns Front Office are dumb enough to buy into it, just like the Bengals did with Dalton.....Kiss any chance of a Super Bowl goodbye.

    @stocktonshorts said:

    Bengals made the same mistake all of you are begging the Browns to make, they took a guy with average talent and made him their Franchise

    Now they're fucked.

    I told my Bengal fan over and over and over "Dalton isn't the guy" and he said "But he wins, he gets us to the playoffs" and everytime I'd say "He doesn't have the talent" he'd repeat Daltons record over and over. 30-18 this past offseason.

    Bengals signed him up for 6 years 115 Mil and the very FIRST thing they said was his record. 30-18, two playoff appearances. Sometimes its ugly but he gets wins.

    Sound familiar?

    Thats why you don't take average talent and make him your Franchise.

    "BUT STOCKTON YOU SAID HOYER WOULD LOSE!!!"

    I know all of you are going to say it, and this Bengals game had ZERO to do with Brian Hoyer. ZERO. He had an ok game. I saw one pass that was a great pass and a ton of passes that went to WRs with nobody within 5 yards of them.

    90% of all Hoyers throws, if he DIDN'T complete it he'd be selling insurance by now.

    He's an average talent, and now hes going to be asking big money and if the Browns give it to him (which they wont) thats the end of the Franchise. Kiss everyone goodbye in 3 years as it'll be starting all over, all over again. And now you got them on NFL network talking $100Mil contract??? Is this real life?

    You don't take an average QB and make him your Franchise. You don't keep quoting a record and ignore the actual ability. You do that, and you ruin your Franchise.

    By the way you can not tell me about any Manziel lovers...they don't exist....they don't exist....meanwhile there are fans CHANTING "BRAIN HOYER" Chanting it. Ignoring the rest of the team, and acting like Hoyer is the CAUSE of these wins and not just the QB that they're working with. 15/23 for 198 Yards and 0 TDs and people are CHANTING his name on the road?! And you wonder why I can't believe you people.

    There are FAR more Hoyer zealots who give him far too much credit and zero blame, then there has EVER been Manziel lovers.

    You people are in love with his story and ignore the reality of his talent.

    If the Browns Front Office are dumb enough to buy into it, just like the Bengals did with Dalton.....Kiss any chance of a Super Bowl goodbye.

    Go F**ck your self. Brian played like Brian "Brady" Hoyer tonight- and if you're not willing to admit it, you're F**cking blind.

    My only complaint about tonight? they didn't let your poster boy take the last series of snaps up 24-3 with a few minutes left. Can't let THE FRANCHISE get hurt.

    whhaaaaahhhh. Hoyer just earned himself a multi milliion dollar payday. And comparing Hoyer to Dalton is bull shit. Dalton is anti clutch, Hoyer is the exact opposite.

    👍

  • Franchise qbs grow on trees. Easy to find Tom Brady and Peyton Manning in every draft.

  • Shorty, you are never going to win the MENSA bowl, you don't have the talent for it. But you go on believing that you're Gods gift to all things wise. So pack your little " History will be kind to me" catch phrase and shove it where the sun don't shine. Here's a new catch phrase for you. "It would be kind if YOU were history".

    StocktonShortsS 1 Reply

  • I didn't watch last year but up to this point Hoyer has done a very nice job. If he can continue to play this way and develop even more I think he can be a really nice NFL qb. He will never be elite because of his inaccuracy at times but with the right team (Eli's Giants, Flacco's Ravens, Wilson's Seahawks) he can lead the team deep into the playoffs and maybe win a super bowl. But if the Browns don't turn into that team, which based off the past I see as a real possibility, I think you need a qb who is more than a game manager. I'm not saying Manziel is defiantly that guy, but I think that his ceiling his so much higher than Hoyer's that I would defiantly give him a chance next year. Even if you sign Hoyer you can't risk trading Johnny for what he can become. If the Browns want to go all in with Hoyer that's cool but they are going to need to draft unbelievably well over the next several years to get the right team together. Even though it was college I see Hoyer as an AJ Mccarron type. With Alabama's talent, he won several championships. Several qb's could win championships with Alabama. But only one could take Texas A&M into Alabama and pull out a win.

    A darkside5D hoortaH 3 Replies
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