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  • You know I used to rag the Squeeler fans about Roids just to piss them off, BUT there is a landslide of evidence that it really was the case. These reports aren't just coming from one or two directions. The Orlando Sentinel's puff piece isn't going to change ANY of that.

    As for bad officiating. Watch the replays of the last 6 or 7 Super Bowls on NFLN...I have. Take a count of the "iffy" officiating calls in those games compared to those in the two Squeeler "victorys." If you aren't blind, you'll notice that the two Taintsburgh games were BY FAR over-officiated and that the calls that mattered most seemed to go to the Cheaters.

    Someday, in the future, someone is going to write an unflattering book about the 00's Taintsburgh organization, which ironically is the same as the 70's Taintsburgh organization.

    * 6-1 *

    Doug

    BUNSofSTEEL08B BUNSofSTEEL08 wrote on last edited by
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    @furnier said:

    You know I used to rag the Squeeler fans about Roids just to piss them off, BUT there is a landslide of evidence that it really was the case. These reports aren't just coming from one or two directions. The Orlando Sentinel's puff piece isn't going to change ANY of that.

    As for bad officiating. Watch the replays of the last 6 or 7 Super Bowls on NFLN...I have. Take a count of the "iffy" officiating calls in those games compared to those in the two Squeeler "victorys." If you aren't blind, you'll notice that the two Taintsburgh games were BY FAR over-officiated and that the calls that mattered most seemed to go to the Cheaters.

    Someday, in the future, someone is going to write an unflattering book about the 00's Taintsburgh organization, which ironically is the same as the 70's Taintsburgh organization.

    * 6-1 *

    Doug

    LOL !!! Dumbasses...

  • Steeler fans are still trying to deny Steroid use? I thought the evidence was mounting at such an alarming rate that even Steeler fans weren't denying it anymore, rather going with the "so what, everyone else did it too" argument (which is also wrong.)

    How many more dead players under the age of 50 than any other organization?

    How many doctors need to be caught with loads of steroids bought on his personal credit card?

    How many former Steelers wrote books about "False Glory?"

    Of course the media doesn't care -- it's deep in the past. But Browns fans care, because they have to deal with frontrunners bragging about their six rings -- so we have to shut their mouth and bring justice by reminding everyone that most, if not all, of those rings are not legit.

    Just like the half assed, bangwagon, joke of a fan base known as Steeler nation.

    It's a shame, Snatch. For every one legit fan like you, I encounter about 10 fake ass frontrunner Steeler fans here in Ohio. They usually have on a Yankee hat and a Celtics Jersy under their Steeler coat. Usually people who are video game geeks, nerds, females, grease monkeys, or any other type of person who is not naturally and genuinely a sports fan.

    BUNSofSTEEL08B BUNSofSTEEL08 wrote on last edited by
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    @dtbh said:

    Steeler fans are still trying to deny Steroid use? I thought the evidence was mounting at such an alarming rate that even Steeler fans weren't denying it anymore, rather going with the "so what, everyone else did it too" argument (which is also wrong.)

    How many more dead players under the age of 50 than any other organization?

    How many doctors need to be caught with loads of steroids bought on his personal credit card?

    How many former Steelers wrote books about "False Glory?"

    Of course the media doesn't care -- it's deep in the past. But Browns fans care, because they have to deal with frontrunners bragging about their six rings -- so we have to shut their mouth and bring justice by reminding everyone that most, if not all, of those rings are not legit.

    Just like the half assed, bangwagon, joke of a fan base known as Steeler nation.

    It's a shame, Snatch. For every one legit fan like you, I encounter about 10 fake ass frontrunner Steeler fans here in Ohio. They usually have on a Yankee hat and a Celtics Jersy under their Steeler coat. Usually people who are video game geeks, nerds, females, grease monkeys, or any other type of person who is not naturally and genuinely a sports fan.

    Roids dont Make throws , Catches and Cuts for you...they don't allow your Brain to operate at some Insanely high Level , theu dont make reads and call plays. SOUR GRAPE APE (Cleveland Ohio) Also , The Steelers of the Day were Just like everyone else. Had a hand full of Guys Looking for an edge on Sundays ..... Go ahead and think that Only Pittsburgh had this inside track to Steroids.. I am pretty sure Roids Dealers are Equal Opportunity Sellers , just like any other Drug Dealer. Not Alone...Just BETTER... lol.... You dumbazzzzzes....

  • DTBHD DTBH wrote on last edited by DTBH
    #73

    They make you bigger, faster, stronger, and more intense than your opponent. It's a CHEAP UNETHICAL way to gain DRIVE and MOTIVATION. If you have a defense all hopped on on steroids and ready to rape the opponent's daughters, you're almost guarenteed to win. If you know ANYTHING about football, you know it's won in the trenches. That's where the Steelers did, do, and always will use Steroids to their advantage.

    Nobody thinks only the Steelers have 'inside track to steroids' ... we're just privvy to the fact that only the Steelers organization is unethical and un-health-conscience enough to use them so wildly.

  • @dtbh said:

    Steeler fans are still trying to deny Steroid use? I thought the evidence was mounting at such an alarming rate that even Steeler fans weren't denying it anymore, rather going with the "so what, everyone else did it too" argument (which is also wrong.)

    How many more dead players under the age of 50 than any other organization?

    How many doctors need to be caught with loads of steroids bought on his personal credit card?

    How many former Steelers wrote books about "False Glory?"

    Of course the media doesn't care -- it's deep in the past. But Browns fans care, because they have to deal with frontrunners bragging about their six rings -- so we have to shut their mouth and bring justice by reminding everyone that most, if not all, of those rings are not legit.

    Just like the half assed, bangwagon, joke of a fan base known as Steeler nation.

    It's a shame, Snatch. For every one legit fan like you, I encounter about 10 fake ass frontrunner Steeler fans here in Ohio. They usually have on a Yankee hat and a Celtics Jersy under their Steeler coat. Usually people who are video game geeks, nerds, females, grease monkeys, or any other type of person who is not naturally and genuinely a sports fan.

    Roids dont Make throws , Catches and Cuts for you...they don't allow your Brain to operate at some Insanely high Level , theu dont make reads and call plays. SOUR GRAPE APE (Cleveland Ohio) Also , The Steelers of the Day were Just like everyone else. Had a hand full of Guys Looking for an edge on Sundays ..... Go ahead and think that Only Pittsburgh had this inside track to Steroids.. I am pretty sure Roids Dealers are Equal Opportunity Sellers , just like any other Drug Dealer. Not Alone...Just BETTER... lol.... You dumbazzzzzes....

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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    FREAKofSTEEL08 said:

    Roids dont Make throws , Catches and Cuts for you...they don't allow your Brain to operate at some Insanely high Level , theu dont make reads and call plays. SOUR GRAPE APE (Cleveland Ohio) Also , The Steelers of the Day were Just like everyone else. Had a hand full of Guys Looking for an edge on Sundays ..... Go ahead and think that Only Pittsburgh had this inside track to Steroids.. I am pretty sure Roids Dealers are Equal Opportunity Sellers , just like any other Drug Dealer. Not Alone...Just BETTER... lol.... You dumbazzzzzes....

    We interrupt this Walt Disney vacation dream with the reality that your steroids in Pittsburgh weren't worth all the early funerals. Do you think for 1 second Mike Webster's family wouldn't trade in the jewelry if they could erase the massive coronary at age 50? He played at 218 pounds in college and lost body fat going to 260 in the pros. Why did the weight training ONLY work in Pittsburgh? Here's a guy that couldn't change his metabolism through hard work alone. Today, I feel worse for the guy and his family than the alleged Steeler faithful. He needed BETTER leadership and guidance than he got in Pittsburgh. The top of that organization ALLOWED a bunch of guys to go Jerry Garcia on something that would increae overall profit margins so they looked the other way instead of doign the RIGHT thing.

    I was SUCH a big fan of the Superheroes growing up that if I saw Superman and Batman bent over with their pants down selling out to unethical needles - my heart would have broken learning they were phoneys. That's where the Steeler fans are because before the Rooneys sold their souls for the truth serum, they were 40 consecutive years of football follies while the Cleveland Browns were in 10 consecutive Pro Football Championships with 8 Titles to their name. Browns' fans don't want to throw a parade for a counterfeit Champion. They'll boo the Lyle Alzados and Russ Verbas out of town as you've seen.

    If cheaters could stop lying I wouldn't have to hear an official from the Dominican Republic saying "you cannot not purchase Primo over the counter in the DR" right? Roger Clemons sent his own wife to his goto drug dealer to size up for her swim suit photos; before lying in front of Congress he never knew anything about that. Really Roger? How was she so educated about WHOM to seek out for shortcuts? I've always wondered why Roger would hand pick the Personal Trainer (PT) he did when he could have ANY PT he wants. Smoke and fire go together in this hire. IMO, credibility becomes shotso the second one sells his/her soul. Why do the minorites get hammered with punishment and shame while Roger Clemons signs autographs for HALF the Congress he went on trial with? Selective villains among the cheaters. That's what irks me most about all the steroid stuff is that we're asked to celebrate Pitt's 6 Trophies because EVERYONE just loves the Rooneys. The Team (HGH) Doctor investigation that never exceeded once upon a time wreaks of Rooney pay-off. Tell me how wonderful they are the next time you see an outside the lines story about some kid that wants to be the next Greg Loyd and dies because he went down the wrong path. And HOW helpful were they to Mike Webster when he was living in the slums and competing with rats and racoons for food out of garbage cans? Notice how QUIET those Loyd, Courson and Webster tragedies got kept in Pittsburgh.

    Now that the media FINALLY caught up with reality - we're asked to be selective in ONLY handing our scarlet letters of shame to their hand-selected cheaters worthy of punishment. All of a sudden, it's the ONLY thing in sports they want to talk about is "A-rod cheated." Gee, why was this possible? There's always going to be people that PUSH the edge and boundaries of right and wrong. However, that's NOT a good enough excuse to surrender against modernizing testing today to the level the Olympics have done so. The NFL has the cake if they're sending millionaires to all expenses paid vacations to Hawaii every February. TRUST me!

    - Tom F. (Fans didn't write False Glory - it came from a Pittsburgh Steeler. Next Generation junkies named Romanowski and Haslett said that steroids put the Steelers on the NFL map and they wanted to be on the SAME map inclusive of fame and fortune. Mission accomplished!)

  • Riffer XR Riffer X wrote on last edited by Riffer X
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    This is precious. I see our resident Steeler brethren are not doing anything to dispel the "dumb hillbilly" stereotype. For one thing, read up on steroids a little bit and learn a little something about them since your teams went from 40 years of godawful putridity to champs at the stick of a needle and chewing of orals like candy. Steroids do a helluva lot more than just make you big. They make you faster, stronger, more coordinated, more acute, have more stamina, recover from injuries faster, have better vision and a feeling of invincibility needed for a sport like football.

    There are more and more people coming around to the fact that juice can be taken safely if done on an educated basis with proper doctor supervision, diet and nutrition. However, what the Rooney Robots were doing was nothing short of mass suicide, only reason it wasn't is because the players were too stupid to even know they were committing suicide. Back then teams were much more introverted and FA and player movement was not near as common as now. Lots of secrets stayed in locker rooms whereas now guys have buddies all over the league in each sport that they care about more than their own teammates.

    Let's see, all the aforementioned guys who were guilty and that's all that were possibly doing it on that team? Okay, let me go sniff some glue so I can sober up from that fantasy. BTW, Alzado was a recluse who only played for the Browns for a few years and not all that well I may add. He also died from brain cancer.

    And Snapper, how you gonna come in here talking shit if you don't even know who Steve Furness is? Like Zombo said, if you know Dwight White, you should certainly know Furness. I know you're a young one but c'mon man, read up a little before claiming those juiced up titles as yours.

    I do think that Swann may not have been guilty of juicing. For some reason, I just can't picture a juicer getting all faggy into ballet. (Oh that's right, he was just doing it to help his game out...........uh, okey dokey then.) Seriously, there were like two likable guys on those teams: Stallworth and Bleier, and the only reason I say Rocky is because he fought in Nam. The rest were scumbags and dregs of society. It's like the Cavs winning a championship with Shaq if they would have pulled the trigger. Who the hell wants to win a championship that way with some guy I don't even like? I couldn't even appreciate the title like I will when they win it legit this year. That must be what Pitt fans older than Snapper think and it must suck. Yeah, you guys can run around with chubs talking about 4 rings in the 70's but deep down those of you who have a rats ass clue know how those titles were attained.

    When the Browns were owning the AAFC (only other undefeated season) and then came in and ass raped the NFL, the Pitt clan was wondering what it must feel like to ever have a winning season let alone be decent. Pitt sucked ass for so long Donald Sterling of the Clippers had an ownership conference with the Rooneys on how to cope with sucking for so long. The Rooney's are experts on three topics; 1) Long ass suckage 2) Getting out of years of long ass suckage by having Robots abuse steroids and 3) A very close and cozy relationship with Zebras, and I'm not talking about the cute kind lions like to eat.........oh, and let's add a forth.....how could I leave out those gambling ties? Hmm, gambling, terribly reffed Super Bowls, the luck of the Irish for years even though it's Pittshole and not Notre Dame? I don't know, seems when the rest of the league caught up with the "We love our Juice" campaign (and I'm not talking about Orenthal James) the only way to gain an advantage was to continue to somehow keep getting every call. My favorite to this day was when Hasselback got a fifteen yarder because he tackled the guy with the ball too hard . How about Holmes just now getting fined for the celebration? Gee, those fifteen yards probably wouldn't have been very handy on the ensuing kickoff. These things are really not a big deal as most Pitt fans will tell you. Hell, they are so used to getting these calls now that it seems like commonplace to them. They about shit when something goes against them every now and then. I do have to give the Rooney's serious credit on one thing, and that is how they get their coaching staffs to teach holding at an All Pro level on every play without getting caught. Seriously, there are ultimate fighters conferring with Pitt on the best holds to implement into their arsenal. Of course, there's got to be some money switching hands there too, nothing comes free to the Rooney's.

    I'll tell you another thing that must really suck for Pitt fans trying to live with themselves and act like these titles are "legit", how about the fact that they may have the singlehandedly gayest bandwagon base in the history of sports. Here I am bagging on Snapper for not knowing who Furness is, hell, most of their "fans" don't even remember the great Mark Malone or Bubby Brister. Aw hell, let's throw O'Donnell, Stoudt, Woodley and Maddox in there, too. They think Louis Lipps was some boxer from Kentucky and Kevin Greene was a great wrestler.

    Riffer X --- "Somehow Jerry Sherk is alive, well, and in great shape. Isn't this the same guy who almost died from a staph infection? Funny, he didn't stick a gun down his kid's throat, either."

  • This is precious. I see our resident Steeler brethren are not doing anything to dispel the "dumb hillbilly" stereotype. For one thing, read up on steroids a little bit and learn a little something about them since your teams went from 40 years of godawful putridity to champs at the stick of a needle and chewing of orals like candy. Steroids do a helluva lot more than just make you big. They make you faster, stronger, more coordinated, more acute, have more stamina, recover from injuries faster, have better vision and a feeling of invincibility needed for a sport like football.

    There are more and more people coming around to the fact that juice can be taken safely if done on an educated basis with proper doctor supervision, diet and nutrition. However, what the Rooney Robots were doing was nothing short of mass suicide, only reason it wasn't is because the players were too stupid to even know they were committing suicide. Back then teams were much more introverted and FA and player movement was not near as common as now. Lots of secrets stayed in locker rooms whereas now guys have buddies all over the league in each sport that they care about more than their own teammates.

    Let's see, all the aforementioned guys who were guilty and that's all that were possibly doing it on that team? Okay, let me go sniff some glue so I can sober up from that fantasy. BTW, Alzado was a recluse who only played for the Browns for a few years and not all that well I may add. He also died from brain cancer.

    And Snapper, how you gonna come in here talking shit if you don't even know who Steve Furness is? Like Zombo said, if you know Dwight White, you should certainly know Furness. I know you're a young one but c'mon man, read up a little before claiming those juiced up titles as yours.

    I do think that Swann may not have been guilty of juicing. For some reason, I just can't picture a juicer getting all faggy into ballet. (Oh that's right, he was just doing it to help his game out...........uh, okey dokey then.) Seriously, there were like two likable guys on those teams: Stallworth and Bleier, and the only reason I say Rocky is because he fought in Nam. The rest were scumbags and dregs of society. It's like the Cavs winning a championship with Shaq if they would have pulled the trigger. Who the hell wants to win a championship that way with some guy I don't even like? I couldn't even appreciate the title like I will when they win it legit this year. That must be what Pitt fans older than Snapper think and it must suck. Yeah, you guys can run around with chubs talking about 4 rings in the 70's but deep down those of you who have a rats ass clue know how those titles were attained.

    When the Browns were owning the AAFC (only other undefeated season) and then came in and ass raped the NFL, the Pitt clan was wondering what it must feel like to ever have a winning season let alone be decent. Pitt sucked ass for so long Donald Sterling of the Clippers had an ownership conference with the Rooneys on how to cope with sucking for so long. The Rooney's are experts on three topics; 1) Long ass suckage 2) Getting out of years of long ass suckage by having Robots abuse steroids and 3) A very close and cozy relationship with Zebras, and I'm not talking about the cute kind lions like to eat.........oh, and let's add a forth.....how could I leave out those gambling ties? Hmm, gambling, terribly reffed Super Bowls, the luck of the Irish for years even though it's Pittshole and not Notre Dame? I don't know, seems when the rest of the league caught up with the "We love our Juice" campaign (and I'm not talking about Orenthal James) the only way to gain an advantage was to continue to somehow keep getting every call. My favorite to this day was when Hasselback got a fifteen yarder because he tackled the guy with the ball too hard . How about Holmes just now getting fined for the celebration? Gee, those fifteen yards probably wouldn't have been very handy on the ensuing kickoff. These things are really not a big deal as most Pitt fans will tell you. Hell, they are so used to getting these calls now that it seems like commonplace to them. They about shit when something goes against them every now and then. I do have to give the Rooney's serious credit on one thing, and that is how they get their coaching staffs to teach holding at an All Pro level on every play without getting caught. Seriously, there are ultimate fighters conferring with Pitt on the best holds to implement into their arsenal. Of course, there's got to be some money switching hands there too, nothing comes free to the Rooney's.

    I'll tell you another thing that must really suck for Pitt fans trying to live with themselves and act like these titles are "legit", how about the fact that they may have the singlehandedly gayest bandwagon base in the history of sports. Here I am bagging on Snapper for not knowing who Furness is, hell, most of their "fans" don't even remember the great Mark Malone or Bubby Brister. Aw hell, let's throw O'Donnell, Stoudt, Woodley and Maddox in there, too. They think Louis Lipps was some boxer from Kentucky and Kevin Greene was a great wrestler.

    Riffer X --- "Somehow Jerry Sherk is alive, well, and in great shape. Isn't this the same guy who almost died from a staph infection? Funny, he didn't stick a gun down his kid's throat, either."

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
    #76

    @riffer-x said:

    This is precious. I see our resident Steeler brethren are not doing anything to dispel the "dumb hillbilly" stereotype. For one thing, read up on steroids a little bit and learn a little something about them since your teams went from 40 years of godawful putridity to champs at the stick of a needle and chewing of orals like candy. Steroids do a helluva lot more than just make you big. They make you faster, stronger, more coordinated, more acute, have more stamina, recover from injuries faster, have better vision and a feeling of invincibility needed for a sport like football.

    Riffer X --- "Somehow Jerry Sherk is alive, well, and in great shape. Isn't this the same guy who almost died from a staph infection? Funny, he didn't stick a gun down his kid's throat, either."

    Great stuff!

    Didn't you hear? In Pittsburgh you can walk into any drug store and purchase a pez dispenser shaped like a Lombardi Trophy. And all you gotta do is take it to their Domincan Republic Department and ask them to fill the dispensor with tangy HGH tablets. Just inform the pharmacist your doctor wants you to be a better football player and it's hassel-free. According to Pittsburgh fans, if they don't test for it - you're innocent. Winning at all costs supercedes ethics and integrity. No cop - no stop!

    That Greg Lloyd weighed 165 pounds in college. After he became a real man, his wife and son looked like they enjoyed the Rooney way. Doesn't every proud wife want to sit side by side with her son all tied up to a chair after her REAL man power crammed a pistol shaft through her teeth? That's the way to do it Greg! Remember when Kevin Mack freight trained his ass to lights out, smelling salts and a wobbly staff escort to the sidelines?

    - Tom F. (The last time I heard something was okay because everyone else was doing it I was watching one of the dirtbags in the movie "The Accused" justifying despicable behavior. No cop - no stop right?)

  • They make you bigger, faster, stronger, and more intense than your opponent. It's a CHEAP UNETHICAL way to gain DRIVE and MOTIVATION. If you have a defense all hopped on on steroids and ready to rape the opponent's daughters, you're almost guarenteed to win. If you know ANYTHING about football, you know it's won in the trenches. That's where the Steelers did, do, and always will use Steroids to their advantage.

    Nobody thinks only the Steelers have 'inside track to steroids' ... we're just privvy to the fact that only the Steelers organization is unethical and un-health-conscience enough to use them so wildly.

    BUNSofSTEEL08B BUNSofSTEEL08 wrote on last edited by
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    @dtbh said:

    They make you bigger, faster, stronger, and more intense than your opponent. It's a CHEAP UNETHICAL way to gain DRIVE and MOTIVATION. If you have a defense all hopped on on steroids and ready to rape the opponent's daughters, you're almost guarenteed to win. If you know ANYTHING about football, you know it's won in the trenches. That's where the Steelers did, do, and always will use Steroids to their advantage.

    Nobody thinks only the Steelers have 'inside track to steroids' ... we're just privvy to the fact that only the Steelers organization is unethical and un-health-conscience enough to use them so wildly.

    SOUR GRAPES...Let it go....and They are NOT ALONE !!!

  • FurnierF Furnier wrote on last edited by
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    Great posts by Riff and Flugs!

    C'mon Geek and Snapper. Refute the stuff you read with evidence to the contrary. If the Gambling Rooney Clan is as innocent as you claim, it should be eaey for you.

    Doug

  • Great posts by Riff and Flugs!

    C'mon Geek and Snapper. Refute the stuff you read with evidence to the contrary. If the Gambling Rooney Clan is as innocent as you claim, it should be eaey for you.

    Doug

    Riffer XR Riffer X wrote on last edited by
    #79

    @furnier said:

    Great posts by Riff and Flugs!

    C'mon Geek and Snapper. Refute the stuff you read with evidence to the contrary. If the Gambling Rooney Clan is as innocent as you claim, it should be eaey for you.

    Doug

    Furns, unfortunately for Steeler faithful the crux of the issue is they can't refute it. Basically, they're just relegated to throwing stones at us claiming we're bitter and jealous, like we wrote the books that their own players did.

    As Steeler fans, it has to be disconcerting as hell to know these titles were all bullshit, so why not just deflect onto Browns fans instead.

    Notice, these guys are nowhere to be found. Funny, I thought they loved coming over here and constantly reminding us how much we suck and the Rooney's were the class of the NFL, etc.

  • @furnier said:

    Great posts by Riff and Flugs!

    C'mon Geek and Snapper. Refute the stuff you read with evidence to the contrary. If the Gambling Rooney Clan is as innocent as you claim, it should be eaey for you.

    Doug

    Furns, unfortunately for Steeler faithful the crux of the issue is they can't refute it. Basically, they're just relegated to throwing stones at us claiming we're bitter and jealous, like we wrote the books that their own players did.

    As Steeler fans, it has to be disconcerting as hell to know these titles were all bullshit, so why not just deflect onto Browns fans instead.

    Notice, these guys are nowhere to be found. Funny, I thought they loved coming over here and constantly reminding us how much we suck and the Rooney's were the class of the NFL, etc.

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by Flugel
    #80

    @riffer-x said:

    Furns, unfortunately for Steeler faithful the crux of the issue is they can't refute it. Basically, they're just relegated to throwing stones at us claiming we're bitter and jealous, like we wrote the books that their own players did.

    As Steeler fans, it has to be disconcerting as hell to know these titles were all bullshit, so why not just deflect onto Browns fans instead.

    Notice, these guys are nowhere to be found. Funny, I thought they loved coming over here and constantly reminding us how much we suck and the Rooney's were the class of the NFL, etc.

    I hear ya Riff. The Rooneys are now getting honored for racial diversity. That's like Joe Weider getting credit for inhaling on the eccentric muscle contractions so a weight trainer can exhale with exertion during the concentric contraction. I believe he called that the Joe Weider Oxygen Intake Principle. Gee, thanks for discovering and naming proper breathing during exercise Joe. Atheletes must have held their breath during exercise all the way until the 70s. Wanna bet this guy Rooney's next door neighbor?

    I was ONCE a bodybuilding fan until I realized the biggest cheaters got the most trophies. REWARDING black market drug pushers doesn't make a sport BETTER folks. Never has. The Rooneys and Weiders would argue they have the bigger trophy cases. Then you buddy Flugel would ask why so many guys posing as Superman are dying between the ages of 30 and 50? What do you put on their tombstones - nice trophies? Not worth it! Their families got screwed while the Weiders and Rooneys got all the cake pretending there was no such thing as cheating in their franchises.

    - Tom F. (A-rod doesn't need the Dominican Republic for his goodies when Pittsburgh is so much closer to NY)

  • @riffer-x said:

    Furns, unfortunately for Steeler faithful the crux of the issue is they can't refute it. Basically, they're just relegated to throwing stones at us claiming we're bitter and jealous, like we wrote the books that their own players did.

    As Steeler fans, it has to be disconcerting as hell to know these titles were all bullshit, so why not just deflect onto Browns fans instead.

    Notice, these guys are nowhere to be found. Funny, I thought they loved coming over here and constantly reminding us how much we suck and the Rooney's were the class of the NFL, etc.

    I hear ya Riff. The Rooneys are now getting honored for racial diversity. That's like Joe Weider getting credit for inhaling on the eccentric muscle contractions so a weight trainer can exhale with exertion during the concentric contraction. I believe he called that the Joe Weider Oxygen Intake Principle. Gee, thanks for discovering and naming proper breathing during exercise Joe. Atheletes must have held their breath during exercise all the way until the 70s. Wanna bet this guy Rooney's next door neighbor?

    I was ONCE a bodybuilding fan until I realized the biggest cheaters got the most trophies. REWARDING black market drug pushers doesn't make a sport BETTER folks. Never has. The Rooneys and Weiders would argue they have the bigger trophy cases. Then you buddy Flugel would ask why so many guys posing as Superman are dying between the ages of 30 and 50? What do you put on their tombstones - nice trophies? Not worth it! Their families got screwed while the Weiders and Rooneys got all the cake pretending there was no such thing as cheating in their franchises.

    - Tom F. (A-rod doesn't need the Dominican Republic for his goodies when Pittsburgh is so much closer to NY)

    S Spunkonmyback DPOY wrote on last edited by
    #81

    @flugel said:

    I hear ya Riff. The Rooneys are now getting honored for racial diversity. That's like Joe Weider getting credit for inhaling on the eccentric muscle contractions so a weight trainer can exhale with exertion during the concentric contraction. I believe he called that the Joe Weider Oxygen Intake Principle. Gee, thanks for discovering and naming proper breathing during exercise Joe. Atheletes must have held their breath during exercise all the way until the 70s. Wanna bet this guy Rooney's next door neighbor?

    I was ONCE a bodybuilding fan until I realized the biggest cheaters got the most trophies. REWARDING black market drug pushers doesn't make a sport BETTER folks. Never has. The Rooneys and Weiders would argue they have the bigger trophy cases. Then you buddy Flugel would ask why so many guys posing as Superman are dying between the ages of 30 and 50? What do you put on their tombstones - nice trophies? Not worth it! Their families got screwed while the Weiders and Rooneys got all the cake pretending there was no such thing as cheating in their franchises.

    - Tom F. (A-rod doesn't need the Dominican Republic for his goodies when Pittsburgh is so much closer to NY)

    Disgruntled Browns fan acts like the Steelers were they only team in the 70's to have players doing steriods..... Also pretends Rooney supports the use of roids despite not a single one of his players EVER testing positive for them..... *Disgruntled Browns fans is snapped back to reallity and finally accepts the Steeler have six Super Bowl wins while they still haven't even made it to that game*.

  • @furnier said:

    Great posts by Riff and Flugs!

    C'mon Geek and Snapper. Refute the stuff you read with evidence to the contrary. If the Gambling Rooney Clan is as innocent as you claim, it should be eaey for you.

    Doug

    Furns, unfortunately for Steeler faithful the crux of the issue is they can't refute it. Basically, they're just relegated to throwing stones at us claiming we're bitter and jealous, like we wrote the books that their own players did.

    As Steeler fans, it has to be disconcerting as hell to know these titles were all bullshit, so why not just deflect onto Browns fans instead.

    Notice, these guys are nowhere to be found. Funny, I thought they loved coming over here and constantly reminding us how much we suck and the Rooney's were the class of the NFL, etc.

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    @riffer-x said:

    Furns, unfortunately for Steeler faithful the crux of the issue is they can't refute it. Basically, they're just relegated to throwing stones at us claiming we're bitter and jealous, like we wrote the books that their own players did.

    As Steeler fans, it has to be disconcerting as hell to know these titles were all bullshit, so why not just deflect onto Browns fans instead.

    Notice, these guys are nowhere to be found. Funny, I thought they loved coming over here and constantly reminding us how much we suck and the Rooney's were the class of the NFL, etc.

    Its more like the worst of the Browns fans ban together accusing any Steeler they can think up of being on roids. When told the player they named has NEVER tested positive for roids they continue to say it in hopes their words turn to reallity. When that doesn't work that accuse the Rooneys of having no class and accuse Steeler fans of being redneck. They refuse to actually listen to what Steeler fans have to say and even accuse Steeler fans of being jealous of the Browns in hopes that would become a reallity.

  • plumcrazy73P plumcrazy73 wrote on last edited by
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    you do know there are ways to beat piss tests!

  • you do know there are ways to beat piss tests!

    S Spunkonmyback DPOY wrote on last edited by
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    @plumcrazy73 said:

    you do know there are ways to beat piss tests!

    But how do you beat a blood test?

  • plumcrazy73P plumcrazy73 wrote on last edited by
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    don't know but would not doubt there are ways!

  • @plumcrazy73 said:

    you do know there are ways to beat piss tests!

    But how do you beat a blood test?

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    Sivlerback DPOY said:

    But how do you beat a blood test?

    Still? this is still plugging away? I didn't even read any of the latest novels because you can only say so much on the subject and most of it consists old and tired re-hashes. Re-hashes that maybe one or two media outlets even care to report for the sake of digging up age old BS no one can really tie down. Oh wait nevermind the Rooney's and the Steelers are in bed with the NFL higher ups. The entire Steeler organization in the 70's were doing their best Lattimer impersonations from the program each and every game. πŸ™„ :rolleyes: πŸ™„ :rolleyes: πŸ™„

  • Sivlerback DPOY said:

    But how do you beat a blood test?

    Still? this is still plugging away? I didn't even read any of the latest novels because you can only say so much on the subject and most of it consists old and tired re-hashes. Re-hashes that maybe one or two media outlets even care to report for the sake of digging up age old BS no one can really tie down. Oh wait nevermind the Rooney's and the Steelers are in bed with the NFL higher ups. The entire Steeler organization in the 70's were doing their best Lattimer impersonations from the program each and every game. πŸ™„ :rolleyes: πŸ™„ :rolleyes: πŸ™„

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    @snatch98 said:

    Still? this is still plugging away? I didn't even read any of the latest novels because you can only say so much on the subject and most of it consists old and tired re-hashes. Re-hashes that maybe one or two media outlets even care to report for the sake of digging up age old BS no one can really tie down. Oh wait nevermind the Rooney's and the Steelers are in bed with the NFL higher ups. The entire Steeler organization in the 70's were doing their best Lattimer impersonations from the program each and every game. πŸ™„ :rolleyes: πŸ™„ :rolleyes: πŸ™„

    So now you are purposing a new conspiracy thoery in which the NFL Commissioner helps cheat for the Steelers?

    πŸ™„ :rolleyes: πŸ™„ :rolleyes: πŸ™„

  • BUNSofSTEEL08B BUNSofSTEEL08 wrote on last edited by
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    So Funny... The League Cheats for the Steelers ? They have a Funny way of doing this...peeling off TDs and dishing out safety`s ...overturning Fumble recoveries , Amazingly strange way to "ensure" that Pittsburgh wins. All so easily overlooked IF there was enough evidence to warrant the reversals to begin with. Plain and simple ...SOUR GRAPES from SOUR People.

  • @snatch98 said:

    Still? this is still plugging away? I didn't even read any of the latest novels because you can only say so much on the subject and most of it consists old and tired re-hashes. Re-hashes that maybe one or two media outlets even care to report for the sake of digging up age old BS no one can really tie down. Oh wait nevermind the Rooney's and the Steelers are in bed with the NFL higher ups. The entire Steeler organization in the 70's were doing their best Lattimer impersonations from the program each and every game. πŸ™„ :rolleyes: πŸ™„ :rolleyes: πŸ™„

    So now you are purposing a new conspiracy thoery in which the NFL Commissioner helps cheat for the Steelers?

    πŸ™„ :rolleyes: πŸ™„ :rolleyes: πŸ™„

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    Sivlerback DPOY said:

    So now you are purposing a new conspiracy thoery in which the NFL Commissioner helps cheat for the Steelers?

    πŸ™„ :rolleyes: πŸ™„ :rolleyes: πŸ™„

    FYI I was being sarcastic. I'm a diehard steelers fan.

  • @plumcrazy73 said:

    you do know there are ways to beat piss tests!

    But how do you beat a blood test?

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by Flugel
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    Sivlerback DPOY said:

    But how do you beat a blood test?

    We'll let you know when the NFL modernizes to blood tests. Unfortunately, your confusing the Olympic Testing with the NFL's tests, which means we're about 2 decades apart. More specifically, we're a Rip Van Winkle nap session away from the NFL modernizing it's testing. If you're looking for drugs that are now obsolete and you cannot detect HGH, guess what kind of data you can report? We're not finding many positive tests for steroids. What does that do? It pretends the NFL is taking protective measures that MLB is denying. Guess what? That's a lie if the drug of choice is HGH and it's going unpoliced and undeterred. Remember our concept of "no cop no stop?" There you be.

    - Tom F. (False Glory was written by a former Steeler that says we were terrible role models and we cheated. It also said the trophies weren't worth all the early funerals. Thank you Steve Courson, we appreciate your honesty because MOST of the A-rods of the world want kids believing that not getting caught means you're innocent)