Do juiced-up Steelers teams deserve asterisks?
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Great posts by Riff and Flugs!
C'mon Geek and Snapper. Refute the stuff you read with evidence to the contrary. If the Gambling Rooney Clan is as innocent as you claim, it should be eaey for you.
Doug
Furns, unfortunately for Steeler faithful the crux of the issue is they can't refute it. Basically, they're just relegated to throwing stones at us claiming we're bitter and jealous, like we wrote the books that their own players did.
As Steeler fans, it has to be disconcerting as hell to know these titles were all bullshit, so why not just deflect onto Browns fans instead.
Notice, these guys are nowhere to be found. Funny, I thought they loved coming over here and constantly reminding us how much we suck and the Rooney's were the class of the NFL, etc.
Furns, unfortunately for Steeler faithful the crux of the issue is they can't refute it. Basically, they're just relegated to throwing stones at us claiming we're bitter and jealous, like we wrote the books that their own players did.
As Steeler fans, it has to be disconcerting as hell to know these titles were all bullshit, so why not just deflect onto Browns fans instead.
Notice, these guys are nowhere to be found. Funny, I thought they loved coming over here and constantly reminding us how much we suck and the Rooney's were the class of the NFL, etc.
I hear ya Riff. The Rooneys are now getting honored for racial diversity. That's like Joe Weider getting credit for inhaling on the eccentric muscle contractions so a weight trainer can exhale with exertion during the concentric contraction. I believe he called that the Joe Weider Oxygen Intake Principle. Gee, thanks for discovering and naming proper breathing during exercise Joe. Atheletes must have held their breath during exercise all the way until the 70s. Wanna bet this guy Rooney's next door neighbor?
I was ONCE a bodybuilding fan until I realized the biggest cheaters got the most trophies. REWARDING black market drug pushers doesn't make a sport BETTER folks. Never has. The Rooneys and Weiders would argue they have the bigger trophy cases. Then you buddy Flugel would ask why so many guys posing as Superman are dying between the ages of 30 and 50? What do you put on their tombstones - nice trophies? Not worth it! Their families got screwed while the Weiders and Rooneys got all the cake pretending there was no such thing as cheating in their franchises.
- Tom F. (A-rod doesn't need the Dominican Republic for his goodies when Pittsburgh is so much closer to NY)
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Furns, unfortunately for Steeler faithful the crux of the issue is they can't refute it. Basically, they're just relegated to throwing stones at us claiming we're bitter and jealous, like we wrote the books that their own players did.
As Steeler fans, it has to be disconcerting as hell to know these titles were all bullshit, so why not just deflect onto Browns fans instead.
Notice, these guys are nowhere to be found. Funny, I thought they loved coming over here and constantly reminding us how much we suck and the Rooney's were the class of the NFL, etc.
I hear ya Riff. The Rooneys are now getting honored for racial diversity. That's like Joe Weider getting credit for inhaling on the eccentric muscle contractions so a weight trainer can exhale with exertion during the concentric contraction. I believe he called that the Joe Weider Oxygen Intake Principle. Gee, thanks for discovering and naming proper breathing during exercise Joe. Atheletes must have held their breath during exercise all the way until the 70s. Wanna bet this guy Rooney's next door neighbor?
I was ONCE a bodybuilding fan until I realized the biggest cheaters got the most trophies. REWARDING black market drug pushers doesn't make a sport BETTER folks. Never has. The Rooneys and Weiders would argue they have the bigger trophy cases. Then you buddy Flugel would ask why so many guys posing as Superman are dying between the ages of 30 and 50? What do you put on their tombstones - nice trophies? Not worth it! Their families got screwed while the Weiders and Rooneys got all the cake pretending there was no such thing as cheating in their franchises.
- Tom F. (A-rod doesn't need the Dominican Republic for his goodies when Pittsburgh is so much closer to NY)
I hear ya Riff. The Rooneys are now getting honored for racial diversity. That's like Joe Weider getting credit for inhaling on the eccentric muscle contractions so a weight trainer can exhale with exertion during the concentric contraction. I believe he called that the Joe Weider Oxygen Intake Principle. Gee, thanks for discovering and naming proper breathing during exercise Joe. Atheletes must have held their breath during exercise all the way until the 70s. Wanna bet this guy Rooney's next door neighbor?
I was ONCE a bodybuilding fan until I realized the biggest cheaters got the most trophies. REWARDING black market drug pushers doesn't make a sport BETTER folks. Never has. The Rooneys and Weiders would argue they have the bigger trophy cases. Then you buddy Flugel would ask why so many guys posing as Superman are dying between the ages of 30 and 50? What do you put on their tombstones - nice trophies? Not worth it! Their families got screwed while the Weiders and Rooneys got all the cake pretending there was no such thing as cheating in their franchises.
- Tom F. (A-rod doesn't need the Dominican Republic for his goodies when Pittsburgh is so much closer to NY)
Disgruntled Browns fan acts like the Steelers were they only team in the 70's to have players doing steriods..... Also pretends Rooney supports the use of roids despite not a single one of his players EVER testing positive for them..... *Disgruntled Browns fans is snapped back to reallity and finally accepts the Steeler have six Super Bowl wins while they still haven't even made it to that game*.
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Great posts by Riff and Flugs!
C'mon Geek and Snapper. Refute the stuff you read with evidence to the contrary. If the Gambling Rooney Clan is as innocent as you claim, it should be eaey for you.
Doug
Furns, unfortunately for Steeler faithful the crux of the issue is they can't refute it. Basically, they're just relegated to throwing stones at us claiming we're bitter and jealous, like we wrote the books that their own players did.
As Steeler fans, it has to be disconcerting as hell to know these titles were all bullshit, so why not just deflect onto Browns fans instead.
Notice, these guys are nowhere to be found. Funny, I thought they loved coming over here and constantly reminding us how much we suck and the Rooney's were the class of the NFL, etc.
Furns, unfortunately for Steeler faithful the crux of the issue is they can't refute it. Basically, they're just relegated to throwing stones at us claiming we're bitter and jealous, like we wrote the books that their own players did.
As Steeler fans, it has to be disconcerting as hell to know these titles were all bullshit, so why not just deflect onto Browns fans instead.
Notice, these guys are nowhere to be found. Funny, I thought they loved coming over here and constantly reminding us how much we suck and the Rooney's were the class of the NFL, etc.
Its more like the worst of the Browns fans ban together accusing any Steeler they can think up of being on roids. When told the player they named has NEVER tested positive for roids they continue to say it in hopes their words turn to reallity. When that doesn't work that accuse the Rooneys of having no class and accuse Steeler fans of being redneck. They refuse to actually listen to what Steeler fans have to say and even accuse Steeler fans of being jealous of the Browns in hopes that would become a reallity.
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you do know there are ways to beat piss tests!
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you do know there are ways to beat piss tests!
you do know there are ways to beat piss tests!
But how do you beat a blood test?
"Hatred is gained as much by good works as by evil" - Niccolo Machiavelli "Expectation is the root of all heartache." - William Shakespeare "In time we hate that which we often fear. " - William Shakespeare "I DO ROIDS ... and GIVE HEAD" - ATENEARS http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=16312 http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06166/698372-66.stm Friday said, "posters on Internet message boards hide behind their keyboards and write things they would never have the courage to say aloud in public. He said posters who write tasteless messages use football and the rivalries between teams as a way of getting out their aggression in a non-violent manner." Predicted 2010 Steelers record from this board: 7-9; 6-10; 8-8; 9-7; 10-6 -
don't know but would not doubt there are ways!
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you do know there are ways to beat piss tests!
But how do you beat a blood test?
Sivlerback DPOY said:
But how do you beat a blood test?Still? this is still plugging away? I didn't even read any of the latest novels because you can only say so much on the subject and most of it consists old and tired re-hashes. Re-hashes that maybe one or two media outlets even care to report for the sake of digging up age old BS no one can really tie down. Oh wait nevermind the Rooney's and the Steelers are in bed with the NFL higher ups. The entire Steeler organization in the 70's were doing their best Lattimer impersonations from the program each and every game.
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Sivlerback DPOY said:
But how do you beat a blood test?Still? this is still plugging away? I didn't even read any of the latest novels because you can only say so much on the subject and most of it consists old and tired re-hashes. Re-hashes that maybe one or two media outlets even care to report for the sake of digging up age old BS no one can really tie down. Oh wait nevermind the Rooney's and the Steelers are in bed with the NFL higher ups. The entire Steeler organization in the 70's were doing their best Lattimer impersonations from the program each and every game.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: Still? this is still plugging away? I didn't even read any of the latest novels because you can only say so much on the subject and most of it consists old and tired re-hashes. Re-hashes that maybe one or two media outlets even care to report for the sake of digging up age old BS no one can really tie down. Oh wait nevermind the Rooney's and the Steelers are in bed with the NFL higher ups. The entire Steeler organization in the 70's were doing their best Lattimer impersonations from the program each and every game.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: So now you are purposing a new conspiracy thoery in which the NFL Commissioner helps cheat for the Steelers?
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So Funny... The League Cheats for the Steelers ? They have a Funny way of doing this...peeling off TDs and dishing out safety`s ...overturning Fumble recoveries , Amazingly strange way to "ensure" that Pittsburgh wins. All so easily overlooked IF there was enough evidence to warrant the reversals to begin with. Plain and simple ...SOUR GRAPES from SOUR People.
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Still? this is still plugging away? I didn't even read any of the latest novels because you can only say so much on the subject and most of it consists old and tired re-hashes. Re-hashes that maybe one or two media outlets even care to report for the sake of digging up age old BS no one can really tie down. Oh wait nevermind the Rooney's and the Steelers are in bed with the NFL higher ups. The entire Steeler organization in the 70's were doing their best Lattimer impersonations from the program each and every game.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: So now you are purposing a new conspiracy thoery in which the NFL Commissioner helps cheat for the Steelers?
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: Sivlerback DPOY said:
So now you are purposing a new conspiracy thoery in which the NFL Commissioner helps cheat for the Steelers? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: FYI I was being sarcastic. I'm a diehard steelers fan.
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you do know there are ways to beat piss tests!
But how do you beat a blood test?
Sivlerback DPOY said:
But how do you beat a blood test?We'll let you know when the NFL modernizes to blood tests. Unfortunately, your confusing the Olympic Testing with the NFL's tests, which means we're about 2 decades apart. More specifically, we're a Rip Van Winkle nap session away from the NFL modernizing it's testing. If you're looking for drugs that are now obsolete and you cannot detect HGH, guess what kind of data you can report? We're not finding many positive tests for steroids. What does that do? It pretends the NFL is taking protective measures that MLB is denying. Guess what? That's a lie if the drug of choice is HGH and it's going unpoliced and undeterred. Remember our concept of "no cop no stop?" There you be.
- Tom F. (False Glory was written by a former Steeler that says we were terrible role models and we cheated. It also said the trophies weren't worth all the early funerals. Thank you Steve Courson, we appreciate your honesty because MOST of the A-rods of the world want kids believing that not getting caught means you're innocent)
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Sivlerback DPOY said:
But how do you beat a blood test?We'll let you know when the NFL modernizes to blood tests. Unfortunately, your confusing the Olympic Testing with the NFL's tests, which means we're about 2 decades apart. More specifically, we're a Rip Van Winkle nap session away from the NFL modernizing it's testing. If you're looking for drugs that are now obsolete and you cannot detect HGH, guess what kind of data you can report? We're not finding many positive tests for steroids. What does that do? It pretends the NFL is taking protective measures that MLB is denying. Guess what? That's a lie if the drug of choice is HGH and it's going unpoliced and undeterred. Remember our concept of "no cop no stop?" There you be.
- Tom F. (False Glory was written by a former Steeler that says we were terrible role models and we cheated. It also said the trophies weren't worth all the early funerals. Thank you Steve Courson, we appreciate your honesty because MOST of the A-rods of the world want kids believing that not getting caught means you're innocent)
We'll let you know when the NFL modernizes to blood tests. Unfortunately, someone is confusing the Olympic Testing with the NFL's tests, which means we're about 2 decades apart. More specifically, we're a Rip Van Winkle nap session away from the NFL modernizing it's testing. If you're looking for drugs that are now obsolete and you cannot detect HGH, guess what kind of data you can report? We're not finding many positive tests for steroids. What does that do? It pretends the NFL is taking protective measures that MLB is denying. Guess what? That's a lie if the drug of choice is HGH and it's going unpoliced and undeterred. Remember our concept of "no cop no stop?" There you be.
- Tom F.
We'll let you know when the NFL modernizes to blood tests.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2741136
I understand there will always be doubt that new types of steroids can pass through steroid tests unnoticed but that doesn't mean we can just accuse whoever we want of using roids.
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Sivlerback DPOY said:
So now you are purposing a new conspiracy thoery in which the NFL Commissioner helps cheat for the Steelers? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: FYI I was being sarcastic. I'm a diehard steelers fan.
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Sivlerback DPOY said:
But how do you beat a blood test?We'll let you know when the NFL modernizes to blood tests. Unfortunately, your confusing the Olympic Testing with the NFL's tests, which means we're about 2 decades apart. More specifically, we're a Rip Van Winkle nap session away from the NFL modernizing it's testing. If you're looking for drugs that are now obsolete and you cannot detect HGH, guess what kind of data you can report? We're not finding many positive tests for steroids. What does that do? It pretends the NFL is taking protective measures that MLB is denying. Guess what? That's a lie if the drug of choice is HGH and it's going unpoliced and undeterred. Remember our concept of "no cop no stop?" There you be.
- Tom F. (False Glory was written by a former Steeler that says we were terrible role models and we cheated. It also said the trophies weren't worth all the early funerals. Thank you Steve Courson, we appreciate your honesty because MOST of the A-rods of the world want kids believing that not getting caught means you're innocent)
We'll let you know when the NFL modernizes to blood tests. Unfortunately, someone is confusing the Olympic Testing with the NFL's tests, which means we're about 2 decades apart. More specifically, we're a Rip Van Winkle nap session away from the NFL modernizing it's testing. If you're looking for drugs that are now obsolete and you cannot detect HGH, guess what kind of data you can report? We're not finding many positive tests for steroids. What does that do? It pretends the NFL is taking protective measures that MLB is denying. Guess what? That's a lie if the drug of choice is HGH and it's going unpoliced and undeterred. Remember our concept of "no cop no stop?" There you be.
- Tom F.
Dude i wouldn't be shocked if 90% of the NFL was on HGH .... But the playing field is quite level. I hope I am wrong , but its kind of la la land~ish to think that.
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Sivlerback DPOY said:
So now you are purposing a new conspiracy thoery in which the NFL Commissioner helps cheat for the Steelers? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: FYI I was being sarcastic. I'm a diehard steelers fan.
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We'll let you know when the NFL modernizes to blood tests. Unfortunately, someone is confusing the Olympic Testing with the NFL's tests, which means we're about 2 decades apart. More specifically, we're a Rip Van Winkle nap session away from the NFL modernizing it's testing. If you're looking for drugs that are now obsolete and you cannot detect HGH, guess what kind of data you can report? We're not finding many positive tests for steroids. What does that do? It pretends the NFL is taking protective measures that MLB is denying. Guess what? That's a lie if the drug of choice is HGH and it's going unpoliced and undeterred. Remember our concept of "no cop no stop?" There you be.
- Tom F.
Dude i wouldn't be shocked if 90% of the NFL was on HGH .... But the playing field is quite level. I hope I am wrong , but its kind of la la land~ish to think that.
FREAKofSTEEL08 said:
Dude i wouldn't be shocked if 90% of the NFL was on HGH .... But the playing field is quite level. I hope I am wrong , but its kind of la la land~ish to think that.If every player (or most) did roids then it would be wrong to * those players and teams that had success. They didn't actually have an advantage becuase they people they went up against were also on roids and equually helped by them. Doesn't make it right to take (now that the NFL has adopted strict roid policies and spreads awareness of the dangers of them) them though. If 90%+ of NFL players are on roids then there is no reason for them to be illegal in the US or against NFL rules becuase there are no widespread signs of roid usage, making them pretty safe to take health wise. I thought that was the biggest reason they were illegal in the first place.
"Hatred is gained as much by good works as by evil" - Niccolo Machiavelli "Expectation is the root of all heartache." - William Shakespeare "In time we hate that which we often fear. " - William Shakespeare "I DO ROIDS ... and GIVE HEAD" - ATENEARS http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=16312 http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06166/698372-66.stm Friday said, "posters on Internet message boards hide behind their keyboards and write things they would never have the courage to say aloud in public. He said posters who write tasteless messages use football and the rivalries between teams as a way of getting out their aggression in a non-violent manner." Predicted 2010 Steelers record from this board: 7-9; 6-10; 8-8; 9-7; 10-6 -
FREAKofSTEEL08 said:
Dude i wouldn't be shocked if 90% of the NFL was on HGH .... But the playing field is quite level. I hope I am wrong , but its kind of la la land~ish to think that.If every player (or most) did roids then it would be wrong to * those players and teams that had success. They didn't actually have an advantage becuase they people they went up against were also on roids and equually helped by them. Doesn't make it right to take (now that the NFL has adopted strict roid policies and spreads awareness of the dangers of them) them though. If 90%+ of NFL players are on roids then there is no reason for them to be illegal in the US or against NFL rules becuase there are no widespread signs of roid usage, making them pretty safe to take health wise. I thought that was the biggest reason they were illegal in the first place.
Sivlerback DPOY said:
If every player (or most) did roids then it would be wrong to * those players and teams that had success. They didn't actually have an advantage becuase they people they went up against were also on roids and equually helped by them. Doesn't make it right to take (now that the NFL has adopted strict roid policies and spreads awareness of the dangers of them) them though. If 90%+ of NFL players are on roids then there is no reason for them to be illegal in the US or against NFL rules becuase there are no widespread signs of roid usage, making them pretty safe to take health wise. I thought that was the biggest reason they were illegal in the first place.Many people forget Steve Couson said it was a "League Wide" Problem. And I dont think it has disappeared. He also said the Avergaer NFL LInemen was 262 lbs. In his day. And is now like 340 lbs...what does that Indicate ? I know kids at local HS`s who were given stuff , at least so they claim. These are kids I coached in AAU Type Basketball , who were football players. . So its a American Problem. Not a Problem of one team. All indications are that When the 70`s Steeler Teams were ona roll , that EVERY Team in the NFL had O-lines experimenting with this stuff. It was bigger than the Good teams of the Day. The "Juice" Flowed freely ... doesnt make it right. But thats life ...life is often not Fair or right.
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Wow it's a Squeelfag fag fest in here.
Steelers = Cheaters. Have never won anything without cheating.
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Squeelers = cheaters
Squeelers = cheaters
Thats a very broad statement. Wouldn't it be amazing if you would actually have specific proof to back up your allegations?
"Hatred is gained as much by good works as by evil" - Niccolo Machiavelli "Expectation is the root of all heartache." - William Shakespeare "In time we hate that which we often fear. " - William Shakespeare "I DO ROIDS ... and GIVE HEAD" - ATENEARS http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=16312 http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06166/698372-66.stm Friday said, "posters on Internet message boards hide behind their keyboards and write things they would never have the courage to say aloud in public. He said posters who write tasteless messages use football and the rivalries between teams as a way of getting out their aggression in a non-violent manner." Predicted 2010 Steelers record from this board: 7-9; 6-10; 8-8; 9-7; 10-6
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