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How many games would we have to lose before you bench Hoyer

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  • @5150k9 said:

    I won't answer till you fix the Title of the Question.

    I tried, I think only admin can change the title

    @adoug319 said:

    I tried, I think only admin can change the title

    Fixed for ya. Night Watchman- on duty.

  • @ibleedbrown said:

    Based on how he writes you might have to settle for a six pack of ginger ale. Oh ya thats right...

    But what if it was Vernor's? I miss that stuff...

    @tour2ma said:

    But what if it was Vernor's? I miss that stuff...

    I don't. Sad to say, mom used to feed that to us when we were deathly sick as kids- and we'd promptly puke it back up. So no ginger ale for me- ever.

  • The Browns defense is decimated. I looked up the depth chart and there wasn't even a name next to C Nick McDonald.

  • @ibleedbrown said:

    Based on how he writes you might have to settle for a six pack of ginger ale. Oh ya thats right...

    But what if it was Vernor's? I miss that stuff...

    @tour2ma said:

    But what if it was Vernor's? I miss that stuff...

    ...do they no longer distribute Vernors to texas? I saw it the other day at the convenience store.

  • I put this question in the category of "too early to ask". Come back if your original scenario plays out and the Browns are totally out of playoff contention. Then ask it.

  • I won't answer till you fix the Title of the Question.

    @5150k9 said:

    I won't answer till you fix the Title of the Question.

    At least he didn't put 'loose' like I read about 20 times per day instead of lose.

  • So no ginger ale for me- ever. Mr. Hoorta

    *************************************************

    When I was kid, I had knee surgery, and they kept bringing me ginger ale

    because I was tired of water. Well, that sucked the first time, and made me

    sick every time after that. But, they kept bringing me ginger ale. Made for

    a little drama - they'd bring it, and tell me I had to drink something, and I'd

    say it was nasty, and refused. So, my surgeon shows up, and they complain

    to him that I wouldn't drink the ginger ale, or water. So, he turns to me and

    grins and asked me about it, and asked what I -would- like, and then turned

    to the stuffy, unfriendly nurse, and yelled for her to work another wing, and

    had my new nurse, to get me some root beer. She was cute, too.

    and I've been a root beer guy ever since. I wouln't remember this story,

    except a several years ago, we were out on our pontoon boat, and all we had was

    Vernor's, and it all came back to me. I'd rather drink the lake water and get sick,

    if I had to choose....

  • And you don't bench a qb just because you lose some games.

    Eventually, you bench him when his play is consistently the sole reason

    that the offense is being held back over time.

    Hoyer has had a few rough outings, and has also shined brilliantly.

    Give the Browns player hate, especially the qb, a rest ?

    Just my dumb opinion....

  • The Browns defense is decimated. I looked up the depth chart and there wasn't even a name next to C Nick McDonald.

    @opal312 said:

    The Browns defense is decimated. I looked up the depth chart and there wasn't even a name next to C Nick McDonald.

    It's likely Greco if McDonald goes down.

  • @opal312 said:

    The Browns defense is decimated. I looked up the depth chart and there wasn't even a name next to C Nick McDonald.

    It's likely Greco if McDonald goes down.

    @bbedward said:

    It's likely Greco if McDonald goes down.

    ... or Bito... 🙂

    Meanwhile back at the thread...

    Given that it is logical that we are only in contention for a post-season spot so long as Hoyer continues to play decent ball, most seem to agree that so long as the playoffs are possible Hoyer starts.

    For those that think now is too late to make a QB change:

    Asked one day recently about Manziel’s readiness to play in the NFL, Pettine gave a notably tepid endorsement, telling reporters, “He’s shown the ability in glimpses to be a starting quarterback here in the NFL.” Another person familiar with the coaching staff’s assessment of Manziel put it more bluntly: “He’s isn’t ready.”

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/johnny-football-in-exile-browns-are-winning-behind-brian-hoyer-while-manziel-sits/2014/11/21/6f1b410c-718a-11e4-a2c2-478179fd0489_story.html

    The entire article is worth a read and fairly balanced.

  • **This is a fucking hypothetical scenario, I'm not calling for Hoyer's head..For all you sensitive fucks.. I just think this is an interesting question**

    I say if we go below .500 at any point, I say we give Manziel the starting role for the rest of the season

    @adoug319 said:

    ....I'm not calling for Hoyer's head..For all you sensitive fucks.. I just think this is an interesting question......

    Ahahaha. You dont honestly think we can "discuss" this in a mature way, do you? It appears that everyone didn't take the time to comprehend the "conditions" of your post. And anyone open to change at QB is just a hater.

    Personally, I dont instantly see hate when people talk about switching QB's(or any other position).

    Listen, it's cool to switch players like RB's, LB's and Ol, but you cannot even discuss QB's without being labelled hater or fanboi.

    My money says if GILBERT suddenly became starter, nobody would bitch and MOST would be happy our 1st pick was now starting. I doubt there would be too many ""Save Buster Skrine"" threads, even though he's playing GREAT right now.

    But, if the same scenario played out with the QB's, there would be hell to pay.......oh yes there would 😉

    And I haven't even said who I think should start, but Im sure if I did, someone here will interpret it as me being a bad fan or label me as a Hoyer hater or Johnny fanboi or visa versa.....instead of just accepting the truth, which is most of us are unbiased fans just trying to discuss options for our team....

  • "" As a Steeler fan, I can't wait until Johnny plays. There are legit reasons her wasn't wanted by anyone but the Browns, there are reasons why countless QB experts wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole, the kid excelled at playground football but never used a playbook.""

    God this is a moronic post. Just dumb.

    1. Only Browns wanted Manziel. Bullshit. Lots of teams wanted Manziel, but he wasn't the right fit for whatever reason, but the MAIN reason he went #22 and not higher in the draft is that he is only 5' 11" and change. He's the ONLY qb under 6" to be drafted in the first round in the super bowl era. If he was 6' 2", it would have been a lot different.

    2. Playground football. Its called extending plays, and it's pretty funny you as a Steeler fan would discount that ability for a qb, when that's Big Rapist's greatest asset. Johnny does it differently than Big Rapist, but big plays happen when Johnny extends plays.

    3. Never used a playbook. Johnny had THE BEST passer rating in college football IN THE POCKET last year. Pretty sure he knew the playbook. And Pettine the other day said johnny's come a long way, which tells me he's doing a good job learning the Browns playbook.

    To answer op's question, Hoyer should play as long as the team feels they are better with him on the field. It's Pettine's job to read the team and figure out which qb is best to lead them. He's done a good job so far-Hoyer's lead them to 6-4 and Johnny hasn't been thrown to the wolves too early.

  • After looking into the DHBF crystal ball, I see Hoyer gone after this season, and Manziel/Shaw fighting for the starting position. Hoyer will ask for too much $$$ and they won't give it.

  • Fun fact :

    Paul McDonalds completion average was 53.6

    WSS

  • After looking into the DHBF crystal ball, I see Hoyer gone after this season, and Manziel/Shaw fighting for the starting position. Hoyer will ask for too much $$$ and they won't give it.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    After looking into the DHBF crystal ball, I see Hoyer gone after this season, and Manziel/Shaw fighting for the starting position. Hoyer will ask for too much $$$ and they won't give it.

    I hope that if Brian Hoyer is actually gone that the coaching staff doesn't dilly dick around all preseason with some sort of bullshit competition. Start the high draft pick and give him all the reps with the first team. Unless front office really has their heads up their asses like last year.

    WSS

  • Once again, be careful what you ask for, you just might be saddled with it.

    GO BROWNS !

  • Once again, be careful what you ask for, you just might be saddled with it.

    GO BROWNS !

    @darkside5 said:

    Once again, be careful what you ask for, you just might be saddled with it.

    GO BROWNS !

    That's true. Like the guy that's been married to the same woman for years; she's a little bit dowdy, not a great cook (but OK) not really sexy (though not a pig) but you know each other well. On the other hand is that 25 year old secretary at work with the big tits and a beautiful smile that keeps asking why you never ask her out.....

    WSS

  • "" As a Steeler fan, I can't wait until Johnny plays. There are legit reasons her wasn't wanted by anyone but the Browns, there are reasons why countless QB experts wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole, the kid excelled at playground football but never used a playbook.""

    God this is a moronic post. Just dumb.

    1. Only Browns wanted Manziel. Bullshit. Lots of teams wanted Manziel, but he wasn't the right fit for whatever reason, but the MAIN reason he went #22 and not higher in the draft is that he is only 5' 11" and change. He's the ONLY qb under 6" to be drafted in the first round in the super bowl era. If he was 6' 2", it would have been a lot different.

    2. Playground football. Its called extending plays, and it's pretty funny you as a Steeler fan would discount that ability for a qb, when that's Big Rapist's greatest asset. Johnny does it differently than Big Rapist, but big plays happen when Johnny extends plays.

    3. Never used a playbook. Johnny had THE BEST passer rating in college football IN THE POCKET last year. Pretty sure he knew the playbook. And Pettine the other day said johnny's come a long way, which tells me he's doing a good job learning the Browns playbook.

    To answer op's question, Hoyer should play as long as the team feels they are better with him on the field. It's Pettine's job to read the team and figure out which qb is best to lead them. He's done a good job so far-Hoyer's lead them to 6-4 and Johnny hasn't been thrown to the wolves too early.

    @aggie-brown-fan said:

    To answer op's question, Hoyer should play as long as the team feels they are better with him on the field. It's Pettine's job

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    After looking into the DHBF crystal ball, I see Hoyer gone after this season, and Manziel/Shaw fighting for the starting position.

    @westside-steve said:

    I hope that if Brian Hoyer is actually gone that the coaching staff....

    @darkside5 said:

    Once again, be careful what you ask for, you just might be saddled with it.

    GO BROWNS !

    Once again, as I said in my previous post, we're just discussing possibilities. No one is "asking" for anything. Why do we need to turn a prediction that Hoyer signs elsewhere and a "what if" scenario into someone wishing for something???

    @westside-steve said:

    That's true. Like the guy that's been married to the same woman for years; she's a little bit dowdy, not a great cook (but OK) not really sexy (though not a pig) but you know each other well. On the other hand is that 25 year old secretary at work with the big tits and a beautiful smile that keeps asking why you never ask her out.....

    WSS

    And, even if you dont ever touch her, you definitely should be able to discuss those big titties with your friends 😉

  • @aggie-brown-fan said:

    To answer op's question, Hoyer should play as long as the team feels they are better with him on the field. It's Pettine's job

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    After looking into the DHBF crystal ball, I see Hoyer gone after this season, and Manziel/Shaw fighting for the starting position.

    @westside-steve said:

    I hope that if Brian Hoyer is actually gone that the coaching staff....

    @darkside5 said:

    Once again, be careful what you ask for, you just might be saddled with it.

    GO BROWNS !

    Once again, as I said in my previous post, we're just discussing possibilities. No one is "asking" for anything. Why do we need to turn a prediction that Hoyer signs elsewhere and a "what if" scenario into someone wishing for something???

    @westside-steve said:

    That's true. Like the guy that's been married to the same woman for years; she's a little bit dowdy, not a great cook (but OK) not really sexy (though not a pig) but you know each other well. On the other hand is that 25 year old secretary at work with the big tits and a beautiful smile that keeps asking why you never ask her out.....

    WSS

    And, even if you dont ever touch her, you definitely should be able to discuss those big titties with your friends 😉

    @mudfly said:

    Once again, as I said in my previous post, we're just discussing possibilities. No one is "asking" for anything. Why do we need to turn a prediction that Hoyer signs elsewhere and a "what if" scenario into someone wishing for something???

    Why would a so called fan of a football team, create a post ASKING how many games would we have to lose before Hoyer gets benched ? It's called reading between the lines. But to answer that question , probably as many games as it would take to fire Pettine . BTW I didn't say anybody was wishing for anything, I said be careful what you ASK for.

    And, even if you dont ever touch her, you definitely should be able to discuss those big titties with your friends 😉

  • @darkside5 said:

    Once again, be careful what you ask for, you just might be saddled with it.

    GO BROWNS !

    That's true. Like the guy that's been married to the same woman for years; she's a little bit dowdy, not a great cook (but OK) not really sexy (though not a pig) but you know each other well. On the other hand is that 25 year old secretary at work with the big tits and a beautiful smile that keeps asking why you never ask her out.....

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    That's true. Like the guy that's been married to the same woman for years; she's a little bit dowdy, not a great cook (but OK) not really sexy (though not a pig) but you know each other well. On the other hand is that 25 year old secretary at work with the big tits and a beautiful smile that keeps asking why you never ask her out.....

    WSS

    Kind of a strange analogy but I hear ya. You don't know if the girl with the big tits and the great smile has aids and might burn your house down. Love the one you're with.