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The Days Of The New Era Running QB Are Over

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  • MudflyM Mudfly

    With the way the NFL seems so enamored by these running QB's, you'd think SOMEONE somewhere woulda come up with a throwing running back by now....

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    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    @mudfly said:

    With the way the NFL seems so enamored by these running QB's, you'd think SOMEONE somewhere woulda come up with a throwing running back by now....

    JB was 4/12 w/ 3TD & 0INT...

    @ibleedbrown said:

    Anyone know anything about speed reading? Isn't the concept about widening your vision while still being able to focus your attention to the wider content, and recognizing word patterns and stuff?

    The course I took literally forced you to read faster. Mostly it was about breaking your brain's habit of internally verbalizing words...

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    You are forced to "skim read" and trash your comprehension in favor of speed. Once up to speed, then they work to bring back your comprehension. You learn tricks like focusing on first and last sentences in a paragraph, and other spots. Slow down a little for those spots and fly through the in between.

    Don't fully recall all my scores, but I started somewhere around 200 wpm speed and 90% comp. After several weeks I ended up around 1600 wpm and same comp.

    I learned it as I used to have to read proposed regulations published in the Federal Register. Voluminous and tedious stuff to wade through, but made for speed reading.

    I only occasionally use it now, but surprise myself how quickly it comes back when I do. Then shortly after cranking up my speed, I am reminded how exhausting it can be... takes a great deal of focus.

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      @mudfly said:

      With the way the NFL seems so enamored by these running QB's, you'd think SOMEONE somewhere woulda come up with a throwing running back by now....

      JB was 4/12 w/ 3TD & 0INT...

      @ibleedbrown said:

      Anyone know anything about speed reading? Isn't the concept about widening your vision while still being able to focus your attention to the wider content, and recognizing word patterns and stuff?

      The course I took literally forced you to read faster. Mostly it was about breaking your brain's habit of internally verbalizing words...

      es-pe-ci-al-ly

      one

      syl-la-ble

      at

      a

      time

      which

      slow

      you

      way

      down.

      You are forced to "skim read" and trash your comprehension in favor of speed. Once up to speed, then they work to bring back your comprehension. You learn tricks like focusing on first and last sentences in a paragraph, and other spots. Slow down a little for those spots and fly through the in between.

      Don't fully recall all my scores, but I started somewhere around 200 wpm speed and 90% comp. After several weeks I ended up around 1600 wpm and same comp.

      I learned it as I used to have to read proposed regulations published in the Federal Register. Voluminous and tedious stuff to wade through, but made for speed reading.

      I only occasionally use it now, but surprise myself how quickly it comes back when I do. Then shortly after cranking up my speed, I am reminded how exhausting it can be... takes a great deal of focus.

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      darkside5D darkside5 wrote on last edited by
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      @tour2ma said:

      JB was 4/12 w/ 3TD & 0INT...

      The course I took literally forced you to read faster. Mostly it was about breaking your brain's habit of internally verbalizing words...

      es-pe-ci-al-ly

      one

      syl-la-ble

      at

      a

      time

      which

      slow

      you

      way

      down.

      You are forced to "skim read" and trash your comprehension in favor of speed. Once up to speed, then they work to bring back your comprehension. You learn tricks like focusing on first and last sentences in a paragraph, and other spots. Slow down a little for those spots and fly through the in between.

      Don't fully recall all my scores, but I started somewhere around 200 wpm speed and 90% comp. After several weeks I ended up around 1600 wpm and same comp.

      I learned it as I used to have to read proposed regulations published in the Federal Register. Voluminous and tedious stuff to wade through, but made for speed reading.

      Obamacare comes to mind. Remember Pelosi? You'll have to read it to see what's in it. I think they lacked the comprehension part. LOL

      I only occasionally use it now, but surprise myself how quickly it comes back when I do. Then shortly after cranking up my speed, I am reminded how exhausting it can be... takes a great deal of focus.

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        T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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        Until JF steps on the field and plays a full year, the jury is out on running throwers as far as the Browns are concerned.

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          miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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          @everlastingxxx said:

          Statue Qbs are easy targets for heavy blitzing teams.

          like brady and manning?

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            @everlastingxxx said:

            Statue Qbs are easy targets for heavy blitzing teams.

            like brady and manning?

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            Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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            @miktoxic said:

            like brady and manning?

            Yeah, those 2 guys suck 🙄

            "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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            • MudflyM Mudfly

              With the way the NFL seems so enamored by these running QB's, you'd think SOMEONE somewhere woulda come up with a throwing running back by now....

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              nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by nickers
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              @mudfly said:

              With the way the NFL seems so enamored by these running QB's, you'd think SOMEONE somewhere woulda come up with a throwing running back by now....

              Eddie LeBaron is probably the closest thing to a "running QB".. he ran up in to the pocket and jumped up behind the line when he threw the ball.. another interesting thing was Paul Brown drafted a Running Back out of Northwestern .. and made him into a QB.. His name was Otto Graham.

              Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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                @clevfan4life said:

                or whatever you wanna call it when defensive players can't seem to get their fucking hands on the slimy raping little cocksucking fgt.

                roethlisberger is just big and people don't know how to wrap him up. you have to either knock his ass down physically or grab him by his legs and wrestle him down. he shrugs guys off like bugs.

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                @miktoxic said:

                roethlisberger is just big and people don't know how to wrap him up. you have to either knock his ass down physically or grab him by his legs and wrestle him down. he shrugs guys off like bugs.

                Baltimore showed how to deal with Roethlisberger in their first game. The first time he dropped back to pass someone

                laid the hammer to him--they got a personal foul out of it but it was worth it. He wasn't the same for the rest of the game

                and Baltimore got the win.

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                  @mudfly said:

                  With the way the NFL seems so enamored by these running QB's, you'd think SOMEONE somewhere woulda come up with a throwing running back by now....

                  Eddie LeBaron is probably the closest thing to a "running QB".. he ran up in to the pocket and jumped up behind the line when he threw the ball.. another interesting thing was Paul Brown drafted a Running Back out of Northwestern .. and made him into a QB.. His name was Otto Graham.

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                  IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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                  @nickers said:

                  Eddie LeBaron is probably the closest thing to a "running QB".. he ran up in to the pocket and jumped up behind the line when he threw the ball.. another interesting thing was Paul Brown drafted a Running Back out of Northwestern .. and made him into a QB.. His name was Otto Graham.

                  Shut the front door! You kidding me? Otto was drafted as a running back? Seriously? How did l not know that?

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                    As a Browns fan, I really do hope that Manziel succeeds with this squad.

                    Do I think he will? if he minimizes his mistakes the way Aaron Rodgers does (unlikely, but not impossible), i think he's got a shot. Was never a fan; but the fact that some people display their obvious disdain for the kid despite never having started a game yet...meh, he's growing on me.

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                      but on a side note...i'm not fond of all these guys who openly admit they'd jump ship the second (if, ever) Manziel leaves. suck a dick.

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                        miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                        @everlastingxxx said:

                        Yea it's been proven, get pressure on these guys and they are very much beatable. See Seattle against Manning and Giants against Brady. Pressure doesn't work against mobile QBs.

                        when you have dominate lines and the D wins the turnover ratio+ it's pretty much easy to win even if you have a ventriloquist doll back there with an arm.

                        a baby's arm holding an apple.

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                          @nickers said:

                          Eddie LeBaron is probably the closest thing to a "running QB".. he ran up in to the pocket and jumped up behind the line when he threw the ball.. another interesting thing was Paul Brown drafted a Running Back out of Northwestern .. and made him into a QB.. His name was Otto Graham.

                          Shut the front door! You kidding me? Otto was drafted as a running back? Seriously? How did l not know that?

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                          nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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                          @ibleedbrown said:

                          Shut the front door! You kidding me? Otto was drafted as a running back? Seriously? How did l not know that?

                          Yes siree!

                          Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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                            @nickers said:

                            Eddie LeBaron is probably the closest thing to a "running QB".. he ran up in to the pocket and jumped up behind the line when he threw the ball.. another interesting thing was Paul Brown drafted a Running Back out of Northwestern .. and made him into a QB.. His name was Otto Graham.

                            Shut the front door! You kidding me? Otto was drafted as a running back? Seriously? How did l not know that?

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                            Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                            @ibleedbrown said:

                            Shut the front door! You kidding me? Otto was drafted as a running back? Seriously? How did l not know that?

                            The 40's weren't exactly our current era of specialization. Most good players played "both ways". Backfields were "full". It wasn't unusual for teams to have multiple players throwing the ball.

                            Otto was a "HB" at Northwestern who passed the team to many victories, including one over Paul Brown's Ohio State Buckeyes. He was drafted to be a QB by Brown's Browns and the NFL's Lions, IIRC.

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