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  • Zombo Z
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    Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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    I see nothing wrong at all with standing up for himself or "pleading his case" with the media or anybody else.

    That said, I would bench his sputtering ass.

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      He shouldn't be pleading his case to the media. To the coaches, sure. To the media is he should be saying, "It's the coaches decision."

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      Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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      @ballpeen said:

      He shouldn't be pleading his case to the media. To the coaches, sure. To the media is he should be saying, "It's the coaches decision."

      He did.

      Listen to what he said around 1:40 of the interview.

      http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/media-center/videos/Brian-Hoyer-We-All-Have-To-Play-Better/666207ad-1218-404a-aec3-10595ad3b4de

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        I like Hoyer, but his quotes don't look good. He threw Gordon under the bus a little, too, telling the media josh ran the wrong route.

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        Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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        @aggie-brown-fan said:

        I like Hoyer, but his quotes don't look good. He threw Gordon under the bus a little, too, telling the media josh ran the wrong route.

        Josh Gordon admitted he ran the wrong route and apologized.

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          He shouldn't be pleading his case to the media. To the coaches, sure. To the media is he should be saying, "It's the coaches decision."

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          Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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          @ballpeen said:

          To the media is he should be saying, "It's the coaches decision."

          You mean like he did in his post-game presser?

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            A Aggie Brown fan wrote on last edited by
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            " Josh Gordon admitted he ran the wrong route and apologized."

            Exactly, why does Hoyer need to bring that up? You think Gordon appreciates that?

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              " Josh Gordon admitted he ran the wrong route and apologized."

              Exactly, why does Hoyer need to bring that up? You think Gordon appreciates that?

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              bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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              @aggie-brown-fan said:

              " Josh Gordon admitted he ran the wrong route and apologized."

              Exactly, why does Hoyer need to bring that up? You think Gordon appreciates that?

              Why does everybody need to boundlessly blame hoyer for everything that goes wrong 😛

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                Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                Probably because it was blatantly obvious to people who know football that it wasn't Hoyer's fault.

                I would guess that he brought it up just to mention that Gordon was sorry he screwed up.

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                  A Aggie Brown fan wrote on last edited by
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                  " Probably because it was blatantly obvious to people who know football that it wasn't Hoyer's fault.

                  I would guess that he brought it up just to mention that Gordon was sorry he screwed up."

                  Yes, and everybody that needs to know Gordon screwed up already knows that. There's no reason to state that to the world in a press conference. Teammates don't like it.

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                    Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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                    BTW, I haven't clicked on the "Should Johnny Start" thread with 336 replies yet. Is it all gay in there? Kind of afraid to enter that room.

                    Zombo

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                      BTW, I haven't clicked on the "Should Johnny Start" thread with 336 replies yet. Is it all gay in there? Kind of afraid to enter that room.

                      Zombo

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                      mohicanM mohican wrote on last edited by
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                      Zombo said:

                      BTW, I haven't clicked on the "Should Johnny Start" thread with 336 replies yet. Is it all gay in there? Kind of afraid to enter that room.

                      Zombo

                      Probably a Derrick Anderson versus Brady Quinn level of gayness.

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                        " Probably because it was blatantly obvious to people who know football that it wasn't Hoyer's fault.

                        I would guess that he brought it up just to mention that Gordon was sorry he screwed up."

                        Yes, and everybody that needs to know Gordon screwed up already knows that. There's no reason to state that to the world in a press conference. Teammates don't like it.

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                        bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                        @aggie-brown-fan said:

                        " Probably because it was blatantly obvious to people who know football that it wasn't Hoyer's fault.

                        I would guess that he brought it up just to mention that Gordon was sorry he screwed up."

                        Yes, and everybody that needs to know Gordon screwed up already knows that. There's no reason to state that to the world in a press conference. Teammates don't like it.

                        Teammates don't like a lot of things they really don't care about. Idk why people are blowing this up and trying to villanize Brian.

                        He's pissed, he wants the job, I see nothing wrong with what he's saying.

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                          @aggie-brown-fan said:

                          " Probably because it was blatantly obvious to people who know football that it wasn't Hoyer's fault.

                          I would guess that he brought it up just to mention that Gordon was sorry he screwed up."

                          Yes, and everybody that needs to know Gordon screwed up already knows that. There's no reason to state that to the world in a press conference. Teammates don't like it.

                          Teammates don't like a lot of things they really don't care about. Idk why people are blowing this up and trying to villanize Brian.

                          He's pissed, he wants the job, I see nothing wrong with what he's saying.

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                          Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                          @bbedward said:

                          Teammates don't like a lot of things they really don't care about. Idk why people are blowing this up and trying to villanize Brian.

                          He's pissed, he wants the job, I see nothing wrong with what he's saying.

                          We're trying to explain this to a Manzealot, I give up.

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                            A Aggie Brown fan wrote on last edited by
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                            Yes, point out that I'm a Johnny fan and that makes whatever you say correct.

                            I didn't start this thread and I wasn't the first to point out that Hoyer came off bad in the press conference. AND HE DID.

                            I guarantee Pettine doesn't like all that shit about "we're 7-5 because of me..." Holy shit, you lost to Jacksonville, Houston and Buffalo!!! Or I guess THOSE were your teammates' fault.

                            But hey, keep defending Hoyer solely because the team is winning while his play is mediocre to bad. You sound exactly like Denver did when they had Tebow. Geniuses.

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                              Yes, point out that I'm a Johnny fan and that makes whatever you say correct.

                              I didn't start this thread and I wasn't the first to point out that Hoyer came off bad in the press conference. AND HE DID.

                              I guarantee Pettine doesn't like all that shit about "we're 7-5 because of me..." Holy shit, you lost to Jacksonville, Houston and Buffalo!!! Or I guess THOSE were your teammates' fault.

                              But hey, keep defending Hoyer solely because the team is winning while his play is mediocre to bad. You sound exactly like Denver did when they had Tebow. Geniuses.

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                              bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                              @aggie-brown-fan said:

                              Yes, point out that I'm a Johnny fan and that makes whatever you say correct.

                              I didn't start this thread and I wasn't the first to point out that Hoyer came off bad in the press conference. AND HE DID.

                              I guarantee Pettine doesn't like all that shit about "we're 7-5 because of me..." Holy shit, you lost to Jacksonville, Houston and Buffalo!!! Or I guess THOSE were your teammates' fault.

                              But hey, keep defending Hoyer solely because the team is winning while his play is mediocre to bad. You sound exactly like Denver did when they had Tebow. Geniuses.

                              You're an idiot. My choice is to bench Hoyer this week, I don't think anything he said is worth turning him into a villain.

                              Also I'm behind whoever they browns put there, whereas you are not.

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                                MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by Mudfly
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                                Yeah, I dont think he really "brought it up", per se......it's more like he was asked "what happened on that play?".....so whats he supposed to say?

                                I guess he had 3 choices....could have just said miscommunication....missed throw.....missed route....he chose to point it to JG...

                                Im not trying to villianize him.....but I also can't keep defending his bad play, which is what Ive done all year...

                                And Im trying to be objective with him across the board, as he has been a professional and class act all along.....but....everything was in his favor all along too....

                                But, now that the chips are down and JFF is in the picture again, he should do what he's preached all season and cede the decision to the Coaches and not argue it in the press. Thats all.

                                Just say.... "I haven't played well....it's a coaches decision....I'll do whatever they want.....WE just want to win".....and leave the rest for us, the press and the coaches to argue.....

                                Im with whoever starts too....and right now feel like JFF deserves a chance....and, just like JFF sat back and let Hoyer have his chance, Hoyer should do the same without arguing it in the press....

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                                  BTW, I haven't clicked on the "Should Johnny Start" thread with 336 replies yet. Is it all gay in there? Kind of afraid to enter that room.

                                  Zombo

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                                  Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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                                  Zombo said:

                                  BTW, I haven't clicked on the "Should Johnny Start" thread with 336 replies yet. Is it all gay in there? Kind of afraid to enter that room.

                                  Zombo

                                  It's not that bad.

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                                    Yes, point out that I'm a Johnny fan and that makes whatever you say correct.

                                    I didn't start this thread and I wasn't the first to point out that Hoyer came off bad in the press conference. AND HE DID.

                                    I guarantee Pettine doesn't like all that shit about "we're 7-5 because of me..." Holy shit, you lost to Jacksonville, Houston and Buffalo!!! Or I guess THOSE were your teammates' fault.

                                    But hey, keep defending Hoyer solely because the team is winning while his play is mediocre to bad. You sound exactly like Denver did when they had Tebow. Geniuses.

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                                    Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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                                    @aggie-brown-fan said:

                                    Yes, point out that I'm a Johnny fan and that makes whatever you say correct.

                                    I didn't start this thread and I wasn't the first to point out that Hoyer came off bad in the press conference. AND HE DID.

                                    I guarantee Pettine doesn't like all that shit about "we're 7-5 because of me..." Holy shit, you lost to Jacksonville, Houston and Buffalo!!! Or I guess THOSE were your teammates' fault.

                                    But hey, keep defending Hoyer solely because the team is winning while his play is mediocre to bad. You sound exactly like Denver did when they had Tebow. Geniuses.

                                    Hoyer didn't come off bad. You're just a homo for Johnny.

                                    Zombo

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                                      A Aggie Brown fan wrote on last edited by
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                                      This is the first time I've criticized Hoyer, but his press conference was bad. As mudfly said,

                                      " But, now that the chips are down and JFF is in the picture again, he should do what he's preached all season and cede the decision to the Coaches and not argue it in the press. Thats all."

                                      Yes, he wants to keep his job, yes he's upset he got pulled, but what he did in the PC was unprofessional. I don't think I've heard any other qb do this this year. He hasn't had this experience before, so he can be cut some slack, but he should and probably will learn from this, and do better next time.

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                                        I think he was a bit baited into some of what he said. The only thing that had me a little upset with him was turning his back on the field when JF scored. At least that is what they showed on NFL network. I was hoping the shot was out of context, but that is how it was presented.

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                                          Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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                                          http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/media-center/videos/Brian-Hoyer-We-All-Have-To-Play-Better/666207ad-1218-404a-aec3-10595ad3b4de

                                          He said absolutely nothing wrong or inappropriate.

                                          You Texas guys are just flaming homos.

                                          I'm embarrassed that our QB has such gay fans, can't you rewatch a Cowboys game, or Brokeback Mountain or something?

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