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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    That's what he said? Really? Let's ship him to MN now...

    @clevfan4life said:

    during the offseason one of the things I want vetted is whether Hoyer and/or his agent really made that contract stip about Johnny

    ... and if you find out it was Manziel's camp that generated the story?

    @tour2ma said:

    That's what he said? Really? Let's ship him to MN now...

    That was my take, at least.....I heard him say 7-4 was no accident, in reference to his being pulled......so, to me, that is claiming responsibility for that record, as opposed to allowing for team wins......

    What I didn't hear was him pulling a Ben Tate and claiming to be the best QB on the team.....didn't hear him claim to be playing well either......

    just heard him reference the record.....(twice)

    And, if we decide to go with JM as starter, I think we will have to ship him off to somewhere(or let him go, basically)......because, I do believe he said he wouldn't sign as a back up and would not be happy or a good productive player in that role...

  • He shouldn't be pleading his case to the media. To the coaches, sure. To the media is he should be saying, "It's the coaches decision."

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
    D BoneD Canton DawgC Tour2maT 3 Replies

  • He shouldn't be pleading his case with his mouth (unless it's non-verbal 😉 )

    Talk is cheap.

  • I like Hoyer, but his quotes don't look good. He threw Gordon under the bus a little, too, telling the media josh ran the wrong route.

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  • ballpeenB ballpeen

    He shouldn't be pleading his case to the media. To the coaches, sure. To the media is he should be saying, "It's the coaches decision."

    @ballpeen said:

    He shouldn't be pleading his case to the media. To the coaches, sure. To the media is he should be saying, "It's the coaches decision."

    Bingo

  • I see nothing wrong at all with standing up for himself or "pleading his case" with the media or anybody else.

    That said, I would bench his sputtering ass.

    Zombo

  • ballpeenB ballpeen

    He shouldn't be pleading his case to the media. To the coaches, sure. To the media is he should be saying, "It's the coaches decision."

    @ballpeen said:

    He shouldn't be pleading his case to the media. To the coaches, sure. To the media is he should be saying, "It's the coaches decision."

    He did.

    Listen to what he said around 1:40 of the interview.

    http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/media-center/videos/Brian-Hoyer-We-All-Have-To-Play-Better/666207ad-1218-404a-aec3-10595ad3b4de

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  • A Aggie Brown fan

    I like Hoyer, but his quotes don't look good. He threw Gordon under the bus a little, too, telling the media josh ran the wrong route.

    @aggie-brown-fan said:

    I like Hoyer, but his quotes don't look good. He threw Gordon under the bus a little, too, telling the media josh ran the wrong route.

    Josh Gordon admitted he ran the wrong route and apologized.

    Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney
  • ballpeenB ballpeen

    He shouldn't be pleading his case to the media. To the coaches, sure. To the media is he should be saying, "It's the coaches decision."

    @ballpeen said:

    To the media is he should be saying, "It's the coaches decision."

    You mean like he did in his post-game presser?

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  • " Josh Gordon admitted he ran the wrong route and apologized."

    Exactly, why does Hoyer need to bring that up? You think Gordon appreciates that?

  • A Aggie Brown fan

    " Josh Gordon admitted he ran the wrong route and apologized."

    Exactly, why does Hoyer need to bring that up? You think Gordon appreciates that?

    @aggie-brown-fan said:

    " Josh Gordon admitted he ran the wrong route and apologized."

    Exactly, why does Hoyer need to bring that up? You think Gordon appreciates that?

    Why does everybody need to boundlessly blame hoyer for everything that goes wrong 😛

    👍

  • Probably because it was blatantly obvious to people who know football that it wasn't Hoyer's fault.

    I would guess that he brought it up just to mention that Gordon was sorry he screwed up.

    Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney

  • " Probably because it was blatantly obvious to people who know football that it wasn't Hoyer's fault.

    I would guess that he brought it up just to mention that Gordon was sorry he screwed up."

    Yes, and everybody that needs to know Gordon screwed up already knows that. There's no reason to state that to the world in a press conference. Teammates don't like it.

    bbedwardB Canton DawgC 2 Replies

  • BTW, I haven't clicked on the "Should Johnny Start" thread with 336 replies yet. Is it all gay in there? Kind of afraid to enter that room.

    Zombo

    mohicanM Mark OM Tour2maT 3 Replies
  • Z Zombo

    BTW, I haven't clicked on the "Should Johnny Start" thread with 336 replies yet. Is it all gay in there? Kind of afraid to enter that room.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    BTW, I haven't clicked on the "Should Johnny Start" thread with 336 replies yet. Is it all gay in there? Kind of afraid to enter that room.

    Zombo

    Probably a Derrick Anderson versus Brady Quinn level of gayness.

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  • A Aggie Brown fan

    " Probably because it was blatantly obvious to people who know football that it wasn't Hoyer's fault.

    I would guess that he brought it up just to mention that Gordon was sorry he screwed up."

    Yes, and everybody that needs to know Gordon screwed up already knows that. There's no reason to state that to the world in a press conference. Teammates don't like it.

    @aggie-brown-fan said:

    " Probably because it was blatantly obvious to people who know football that it wasn't Hoyer's fault.

    I would guess that he brought it up just to mention that Gordon was sorry he screwed up."

    Yes, and everybody that needs to know Gordon screwed up already knows that. There's no reason to state that to the world in a press conference. Teammates don't like it.

    Teammates don't like a lot of things they really don't care about. Idk why people are blowing this up and trying to villanize Brian.

    He's pissed, he wants the job, I see nothing wrong with what he's saying.

  • bbedwardB bbedward

    @aggie-brown-fan said:

    " Probably because it was blatantly obvious to people who know football that it wasn't Hoyer's fault.

    I would guess that he brought it up just to mention that Gordon was sorry he screwed up."

    Yes, and everybody that needs to know Gordon screwed up already knows that. There's no reason to state that to the world in a press conference. Teammates don't like it.

    Teammates don't like a lot of things they really don't care about. Idk why people are blowing this up and trying to villanize Brian.

    He's pissed, he wants the job, I see nothing wrong with what he's saying.

    @bbedward said:

    Teammates don't like a lot of things they really don't care about. Idk why people are blowing this up and trying to villanize Brian.

    He's pissed, he wants the job, I see nothing wrong with what he's saying.

    We're trying to explain this to a Manzealot, I give up.

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  • Yes, point out that I'm a Johnny fan and that makes whatever you say correct.

    I didn't start this thread and I wasn't the first to point out that Hoyer came off bad in the press conference. AND HE DID.

    I guarantee Pettine doesn't like all that shit about "we're 7-5 because of me..." Holy shit, you lost to Jacksonville, Houston and Buffalo!!! Or I guess THOSE were your teammates' fault.

    But hey, keep defending Hoyer solely because the team is winning while his play is mediocre to bad. You sound exactly like Denver did when they had Tebow. Geniuses.

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  • A Aggie Brown fan

    Yes, point out that I'm a Johnny fan and that makes whatever you say correct.

    I didn't start this thread and I wasn't the first to point out that Hoyer came off bad in the press conference. AND HE DID.

    I guarantee Pettine doesn't like all that shit about "we're 7-5 because of me..." Holy shit, you lost to Jacksonville, Houston and Buffalo!!! Or I guess THOSE were your teammates' fault.

    But hey, keep defending Hoyer solely because the team is winning while his play is mediocre to bad. You sound exactly like Denver did when they had Tebow. Geniuses.

    @aggie-brown-fan said:

    Yes, point out that I'm a Johnny fan and that makes whatever you say correct.

    I didn't start this thread and I wasn't the first to point out that Hoyer came off bad in the press conference. AND HE DID.

    I guarantee Pettine doesn't like all that shit about "we're 7-5 because of me..." Holy shit, you lost to Jacksonville, Houston and Buffalo!!! Or I guess THOSE were your teammates' fault.

    But hey, keep defending Hoyer solely because the team is winning while his play is mediocre to bad. You sound exactly like Denver did when they had Tebow. Geniuses.

    You're an idiot. My choice is to bench Hoyer this week, I don't think anything he said is worth turning him into a villain.

    Also I'm behind whoever they browns put there, whereas you are not.

  • Yeah, I dont think he really "brought it up", per se......it's more like he was asked "what happened on that play?".....so whats he supposed to say?

    I guess he had 3 choices....could have just said miscommunication....missed throw.....missed route....he chose to point it to JG...

    Im not trying to villianize him.....but I also can't keep defending his bad play, which is what Ive done all year...

    And Im trying to be objective with him across the board, as he has been a professional and class act all along.....but....everything was in his favor all along too....

    But, now that the chips are down and JFF is in the picture again, he should do what he's preached all season and cede the decision to the Coaches and not argue it in the press. Thats all.

    Just say.... "I haven't played well....it's a coaches decision....I'll do whatever they want.....WE just want to win".....and leave the rest for us, the press and the coaches to argue.....

    Im with whoever starts too....and right now feel like JFF deserves a chance....and, just like JFF sat back and let Hoyer have his chance, Hoyer should do the same without arguing it in the press....

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