Hoyer to the press

D Bone

''You don't get to 7-5 in the NFL just lucking into it, it's been a lot of hard work, and I think I've proven that I've gotten us to this point." - Brian Hoyer

Clevfan4life

He makes a valid point with that statement. He'd have one more game if I was coach. I wouldn't say if you don't throw for 400 yds and 5 td's we're bringing Johhny in...but I'd give Hoyer a very specific ultimatum, the dumbass int's stop now or you're out.

Mr. Make-Believe

He sounds like he's lobbying for himself.

I don't mind that he's confident, but I think he's taken it a little over the line. "Everyone needs to be better, including me" isn't as accurate as "Everyone needs to be better, but ESPECIALLY me and I'm going to do whatever I can to get to where I need to be." Teams can put up decent records in spite of their QB just as well as because of him. I've supported Hoyer all season, but his performance since the Cinci game has NOT been brag-worthy and was NOT the reason the Browns beat the Falcons. Before that game he was spotty too, but it was easier to overlook due to his record and interception/touchdown ratio.

I can understand the reasoning behind putting him in on Sunday... But Hoyer should be humble, not brash about his performance. If he truly was the QB the Browns needed him to be, we wouldn't be having this conversation with four games remaining in the season.

Mudfly

Wow....so humble all season.....shared the blame and the rewards equally.....

The one thing I will say is that the only argument defending Hoyer(all season), has been his W-L record....people would point out that he wasn't playing well and the response was always "scoreboard".....but no one could(or would) defend the poor play....

And now that he has lost his job, he is saying the same thing.....scoreboard. Obviously he cant argue thats he's playing well. Can't use stats to back up his play. So, he claims responsibility for the wins....

And, there goes Mr. Humble.....wonder how the other players feel now that BH has said he's the reason for winning....

Tour2ma

That's what he said? Really? Let's ship him to MN now...

@clevfan4life said:
during the offseason one of the things I want vetted is whether Hoyer and/or his agent really made that contract stip about Johnny

... and if you find out it was Manziel's camp that generated the story?

Mudfly

@tour2ma said:

That's what he said? Really? Let's ship him to MN now...

That was my take, at least.....I heard him say 7-4 was no accident, in reference to his being pulled......so, to me, that is claiming responsibility for that record, as opposed to allowing for team wins......

What I didn't hear was him pulling a Ben Tate and claiming to be the best QB on the team.....didn't hear him claim to be playing well either......

just heard him reference the record.....(twice)

And, if we decide to go with JM as starter, I think we will have to ship him off to somewhere(or let him go, basically)......because, I do believe he said he wouldn't sign as a back up and would not be happy or a good productive player in that role...

ballpeen

He shouldn't be pleading his case to the media. To the coaches, sure. To the media is he should be saying, "It's the coaches decision."

RoyceRolls

He shouldn't be pleading his case with his mouth (unless it's non-verbal )

Talk is cheap.

Aggie Brown fan

I like Hoyer, but his quotes don't look good. He threw Gordon under the bus a little, too, telling the media josh ran the wrong route.

D Bone

@ballpeen said:
He shouldn't be pleading his case to the media. To the coaches, sure. To the media is he should be saying, "It's the coaches decision."

Bingo

Zombo

I see nothing wrong at all with standing up for himself or "pleading his case" with the media or anybody else.

That said, I would bench his sputtering ass.

Zombo

Canton Dawg

@ballpeen said:
He shouldn't be pleading his case to the media. To the coaches, sure. To the media is he should be saying, "It's the coaches decision."

He did.

Listen to what he said around 1:40 of the interview.

http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/media-center/videos/Brian-Hoyer-We-All-Have-To-Play-Better/666207ad-1218-404a-aec3-10595ad3b4de

Canton Dawg

@aggie-brown-fan said:
I like Hoyer, but his quotes don't look good. He threw Gordon under the bus a little, too, telling the media josh ran the wrong route.

Josh Gordon admitted he ran the wrong route and apologized.

Tour2ma

@ballpeen said:
To the media is he should be saying, "It's the coaches decision."

You mean like he did in his post-game presser?

Aggie Brown fan

" Josh Gordon admitted he ran the wrong route and apologized."

Exactly, why does Hoyer need to bring that up? You think Gordon appreciates that?

bbedward

@aggie-brown-fan said:

" Josh Gordon admitted he ran the wrong route and apologized."

Exactly, why does Hoyer need to bring that up? You think Gordon appreciates that?

Why does everybody need to boundlessly blame hoyer for everything that goes wrong

Canton Dawg

Probably because it was blatantly obvious to people who know football that it wasn't Hoyer's fault.

I would guess that he brought it up just to mention that Gordon was sorry he screwed up.

Aggie Brown fan

" Probably because it was blatantly obvious to people who know football that it wasn't Hoyer's fault.

I would guess that he brought it up just to mention that Gordon was sorry he screwed up."

Yes, and everybody that needs to know Gordon screwed up already knows that. There's no reason to state that to the world in a press conference. Teammates don't like it.

Zombo

BTW, I haven't clicked on the "Should Johnny Start" thread with 336 replies yet. Is it all gay in there? Kind of afraid to enter that room.

Zombo

mohican

Zombo said:

BTW, I haven't clicked on the "Should Johnny Start" thread with 336 replies yet. Is it all gay in there? Kind of afraid to enter that room.

Zombo

Probably a Derrick Anderson versus Brady Quinn level of gayness.