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  • Mudfly MudflyM Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Dedicated One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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    Wow....so humble all season.....shared the blame and the rewards equally.....

    The one thing I will say is that the only argument defending Hoyer(all season), has been his W-L record....people would point out that he wasn't playing well and the response was always "scoreboard".....but no one could(or would) defend the poor play....

    And now that he has lost his job, he is saying the same thing.....scoreboard. Obviously he cant argue thats he's playing well. Can't use stats to back up his play. So, he claims responsibility for the wins....

    And, there goes Mr. Humble.....wonder how the other players feel now that BH has said he's the reason for winning....

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      during the offseason one of the things I want vetted is whether Hoyer and/or his agent really made that contract stip about Johnny

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      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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      That's what he said? Really? Let's ship him to MN now...

      @clevfan4life said:

      during the offseason one of the things I want vetted is whether Hoyer and/or his agent really made that contract stip about Johnny

      ... and if you find out it was Manziel's camp that generated the story?

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        That's what he said? Really? Let's ship him to MN now...

        @clevfan4life said:

        during the offseason one of the things I want vetted is whether Hoyer and/or his agent really made that contract stip about Johnny

        ... and if you find out it was Manziel's camp that generated the story?

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        MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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        @tour2ma said:

        That's what he said? Really? Let's ship him to MN now...

        That was my take, at least.....I heard him say 7-4 was no accident, in reference to his being pulled......so, to me, that is claiming responsibility for that record, as opposed to allowing for team wins......

        What I didn't hear was him pulling a Ben Tate and claiming to be the best QB on the team.....didn't hear him claim to be playing well either......

        just heard him reference the record.....(twice)

        And, if we decide to go with JM as starter, I think we will have to ship him off to somewhere(or let him go, basically)......because, I do believe he said he wouldn't sign as a back up and would not be happy or a good productive player in that role...

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          ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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          He shouldn't be pleading his case to the media. To the coaches, sure. To the media is he should be saying, "It's the coaches decision."

          If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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            R RoyceRolls wrote on last edited by
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            He shouldn't be pleading his case with his mouth (unless it's non-verbal 😉 )

            Talk is cheap.

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              A Aggie Brown fan wrote on last edited by
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              I like Hoyer, but his quotes don't look good. He threw Gordon under the bus a little, too, telling the media josh ran the wrong route.

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                He shouldn't be pleading his case to the media. To the coaches, sure. To the media is he should be saying, "It's the coaches decision."

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                D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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                @ballpeen said:

                He shouldn't be pleading his case to the media. To the coaches, sure. To the media is he should be saying, "It's the coaches decision."

                Bingo

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                  Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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                  I see nothing wrong at all with standing up for himself or "pleading his case" with the media or anybody else.

                  That said, I would bench his sputtering ass.

                  Zombo

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                    He shouldn't be pleading his case to the media. To the coaches, sure. To the media is he should be saying, "It's the coaches decision."

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                    Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                    @ballpeen said:

                    He shouldn't be pleading his case to the media. To the coaches, sure. To the media is he should be saying, "It's the coaches decision."

                    He did.

                    Listen to what he said around 1:40 of the interview.

                    http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/media-center/videos/Brian-Hoyer-We-All-Have-To-Play-Better/666207ad-1218-404a-aec3-10595ad3b4de

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                      I like Hoyer, but his quotes don't look good. He threw Gordon under the bus a little, too, telling the media josh ran the wrong route.

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                      Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                      @aggie-brown-fan said:

                      I like Hoyer, but his quotes don't look good. He threw Gordon under the bus a little, too, telling the media josh ran the wrong route.

                      Josh Gordon admitted he ran the wrong route and apologized.

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                      • ballpeenB ballpeen

                        He shouldn't be pleading his case to the media. To the coaches, sure. To the media is he should be saying, "It's the coaches decision."

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                        Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                        @ballpeen said:

                        To the media is he should be saying, "It's the coaches decision."

                        You mean like he did in his post-game presser?

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                          A Aggie Brown fan wrote on last edited by
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                          " Josh Gordon admitted he ran the wrong route and apologized."

                          Exactly, why does Hoyer need to bring that up? You think Gordon appreciates that?

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                            " Josh Gordon admitted he ran the wrong route and apologized."

                            Exactly, why does Hoyer need to bring that up? You think Gordon appreciates that?

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                            bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                            @aggie-brown-fan said:

                            " Josh Gordon admitted he ran the wrong route and apologized."

                            Exactly, why does Hoyer need to bring that up? You think Gordon appreciates that?

                            Why does everybody need to boundlessly blame hoyer for everything that goes wrong 😛

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                              Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                              Probably because it was blatantly obvious to people who know football that it wasn't Hoyer's fault.

                              I would guess that he brought it up just to mention that Gordon was sorry he screwed up.

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                                A Aggie Brown fan wrote on last edited by
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                                " Probably because it was blatantly obvious to people who know football that it wasn't Hoyer's fault.

                                I would guess that he brought it up just to mention that Gordon was sorry he screwed up."

                                Yes, and everybody that needs to know Gordon screwed up already knows that. There's no reason to state that to the world in a press conference. Teammates don't like it.

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                                  Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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                                  BTW, I haven't clicked on the "Should Johnny Start" thread with 336 replies yet. Is it all gay in there? Kind of afraid to enter that room.

                                  Zombo

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                                    BTW, I haven't clicked on the "Should Johnny Start" thread with 336 replies yet. Is it all gay in there? Kind of afraid to enter that room.

                                    Zombo

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                                    mohicanM mohican wrote on last edited by
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                                    Zombo said:

                                    BTW, I haven't clicked on the "Should Johnny Start" thread with 336 replies yet. Is it all gay in there? Kind of afraid to enter that room.

                                    Zombo

                                    Probably a Derrick Anderson versus Brady Quinn level of gayness.

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                                      " Probably because it was blatantly obvious to people who know football that it wasn't Hoyer's fault.

                                      I would guess that he brought it up just to mention that Gordon was sorry he screwed up."

                                      Yes, and everybody that needs to know Gordon screwed up already knows that. There's no reason to state that to the world in a press conference. Teammates don't like it.

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                                      bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                                      @aggie-brown-fan said:

                                      " Probably because it was blatantly obvious to people who know football that it wasn't Hoyer's fault.

                                      I would guess that he brought it up just to mention that Gordon was sorry he screwed up."

                                      Yes, and everybody that needs to know Gordon screwed up already knows that. There's no reason to state that to the world in a press conference. Teammates don't like it.

                                      Teammates don't like a lot of things they really don't care about. Idk why people are blowing this up and trying to villanize Brian.

                                      He's pissed, he wants the job, I see nothing wrong with what he's saying.

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                                        @aggie-brown-fan said:

                                        " Probably because it was blatantly obvious to people who know football that it wasn't Hoyer's fault.

                                        I would guess that he brought it up just to mention that Gordon was sorry he screwed up."

                                        Yes, and everybody that needs to know Gordon screwed up already knows that. There's no reason to state that to the world in a press conference. Teammates don't like it.

                                        Teammates don't like a lot of things they really don't care about. Idk why people are blowing this up and trying to villanize Brian.

                                        He's pissed, he wants the job, I see nothing wrong with what he's saying.

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                                        Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                                        @bbedward said:

                                        Teammates don't like a lot of things they really don't care about. Idk why people are blowing this up and trying to villanize Brian.

                                        He's pissed, he wants the job, I see nothing wrong with what he's saying.

                                        We're trying to explain this to a Manzealot, I give up.

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                                          A Aggie Brown fan wrote on last edited by
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                                          Yes, point out that I'm a Johnny fan and that makes whatever you say correct.

                                          I didn't start this thread and I wasn't the first to point out that Hoyer came off bad in the press conference. AND HE DID.

                                          I guarantee Pettine doesn't like all that shit about "we're 7-5 because of me..." Holy shit, you lost to Jacksonville, Houston and Buffalo!!! Or I guess THOSE were your teammates' fault.

                                          But hey, keep defending Hoyer solely because the team is winning while his play is mediocre to bad. You sound exactly like Denver did when they had Tebow. Geniuses.

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