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  • All the flags are taking away from the game,

    When a good defensive play happens, you have to wait to see if there are any flags

    Same with a punt or kickoff return.

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."

  • Questionable call for Rodgers and the packers

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...

  • The roughing call on Cleveland was awful. There was one non-call in which the Cleveland DB was pushing the Indy WR's head with his hand on his facemask before the ball even got there.

    Calls wouldn't have mattered if Hoyer and Cundiff weren't so bad for you guys. If the Browns aren't trying out kickers this week then something is wrong. NFL kickers don't miss kicks 5 or 6 weeks in a row.

  • Yeah the Kruger hit wasn't bad, unfortunately the NFL calls anything that remotely looks like helmet to helmet contact. Especially for quarterbacks. But I don't want you guys to think that Luck and company get the calls cuz were an "elite" team. We're not even close to elite or great IMO.

    Wayne was being held on every third down play in Denver week 1, I mean Roby was mugging him. And considering we were coming back and stopping Manning in the 2nd half, can't say I'm surprised with no calls.

    The Colts were screwed out of a first down that would've essentially sealed the deal against Philly week 2, with a no call against Boykin holding Hilton.

    The Patriots get any call they want as long as they look at the ref and throw their hands in the air. I specifically remember that travesty of a call when the Browns went to New England last year, absolute terrible call that set Brady up for the win.

    My point being is that I know there were some pretty iffy calls all game, I thought a lot of them were really really close and hard to tell for an official. But we really don't get those "make up" or "bail out" calls like Brady gets.

    ComeonmanC Tour2maT 2 Replies
  • Indycrazy1213I Indycrazy1213

    Yeah the Kruger hit wasn't bad, unfortunately the NFL calls anything that remotely looks like helmet to helmet contact. Especially for quarterbacks. But I don't want you guys to think that Luck and company get the calls cuz were an "elite" team. We're not even close to elite or great IMO.

    Wayne was being held on every third down play in Denver week 1, I mean Roby was mugging him. And considering we were coming back and stopping Manning in the 2nd half, can't say I'm surprised with no calls.

    The Colts were screwed out of a first down that would've essentially sealed the deal against Philly week 2, with a no call against Boykin holding Hilton.

    The Patriots get any call they want as long as they look at the ref and throw their hands in the air. I specifically remember that travesty of a call when the Browns went to New England last year, absolute terrible call that set Brady up for the win.

    My point being is that I know there were some pretty iffy calls all game, I thought a lot of them were really really close and hard to tell for an official. But we really don't get those "make up" or "bail out" calls like Brady gets.

    @indycrazy1213 said:

    Yeah the Kruger hit wasn't bad, unfortunately the NFL calls anything that remotely looks like helmet to helmet contact. Especially for quarterbacks. But I don't want you guys to think that Luck and company get the calls cuz were an "elite" team. We're not even close to elite or great IMO.

    Wayne was being held on every third down play in Denver week 1, I mean Roby was mugging him. And considering we were coming back and stopping Manning in the 2nd half, can't say I'm surprised with no calls.

    The Colts were screwed out of a first down that would've essentially sealed the deal against Philly week 2, with a no call against Boykin holding Hilton.

    The Patriots get any call they want as long as they look at the ref and throw their hands in the air. I specifically remember that travesty of a call when the Browns went to New England last year, absolute terrible call that set Brady up for the win.

    My point being is that I know there were some pretty iffy calls all game, I thought a lot of them were really really close and hard to tell for an official. But we really don't get those "make up" or "bail out" calls like Brady gets.

    Ya I don't think it was a call for the Colts and there is a conspiracy going on. The refs saw something live that really didn't happen they the way they thought and it screwed us when our D made a great stop (for the gillionth time). It sucked because it was essentially a turnover and the Colts got points from it. We then lost by one. Still no excuses for BH or BC, they played horribly. Sucks we wasted such a great D performance

  • It's definitely edit: NOT a conspiracy against the Browns, it's just any team that goes against an "elite" QB. It goes back to my point that if it's going to be called so liberally it needs to be reviewed. I hate slowing the game down like that but these calls are often critical in the result of the game.

    ComeonmanC 1 Reply

  • No one said it was a conspiracy against the browns. Everyone said it was a gift for the team who was supposed to win

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
  • jrb12711J jrb12711

    It's definitely edit: NOT a conspiracy against the Browns, it's just any team that goes against an "elite" QB. It goes back to my point that if it's going to be called so liberally it needs to be reviewed. I hate slowing the game down like that but these calls are often critical in the result of the game.

    @jrb12711 said:

    It's definitely edit: NOT a conspiracy against the Browns, it's just any team that goes against an "elite" QB. It goes back to my point that if it's going to be called so liberally it needs to be reviewed. I hate slowing the game down like that but these calls are often critical in the result of the game.

    Exactly my point. That's the only way it will change but it will never happen. The game is not changing for the better
  • darkside5D darkside5

    @letsgojackets said:

    I hate the NFL now. Pussy ass flags all day. The game stops for replays every 2 minutes. Big names get every single break they can. Absolutely no flow to the game at all. It's like it's not even the same sport as it was in the 90's.

    You should have been around in the 60's when you had to be a MAN to play football.

    @darkside5 said:

    You should have been around in the 60's when you had to be a MAN to play football.

    The 60's? Shit. I go back home twice a year to play in our alumni games and they let us play more physical than what I see without the flags.

  • Indycrazy1213I Indycrazy1213

    Yeah the Kruger hit wasn't bad, unfortunately the NFL calls anything that remotely looks like helmet to helmet contact. Especially for quarterbacks. But I don't want you guys to think that Luck and company get the calls cuz were an "elite" team. We're not even close to elite or great IMO.

    Wayne was being held on every third down play in Denver week 1, I mean Roby was mugging him. And considering we were coming back and stopping Manning in the 2nd half, can't say I'm surprised with no calls.

    The Colts were screwed out of a first down that would've essentially sealed the deal against Philly week 2, with a no call against Boykin holding Hilton.

    The Patriots get any call they want as long as they look at the ref and throw their hands in the air. I specifically remember that travesty of a call when the Browns went to New England last year, absolute terrible call that set Brady up for the win.

    My point being is that I know there were some pretty iffy calls all game, I thought a lot of them were really really close and hard to tell for an official. But we really don't get those "make up" or "bail out" calls like Brady gets.

    @indycrazy1213 said:

    But we really don't get those "make up" or "bail out" calls like Brady gets.

    Yeah it's always "the other" team that gets the calls...

    The Kruger hit was less than "not that bad". Upon further review, it was not bad at all. Someday replay will come in, until them we can only hope that refs realize that impacts to the head will knock the head away from the tackler, not towards him.

    The Skrine PI was at best an inconsistent call.

    Did he grab jersey? Yup.

    Did it have material impact on the play? No.

    Was it PI? From replays I've seen... no.

    Here's the rub: the BackJudge that threw the flag could not have seen the jersey grab, so it must have been for something he could see.

    Only possible thing I can see is that while outjumping your TE Skrine went slightly into him. Hardly the outlawed "playing the ball thru the man". Looked more like the legal play on the ball...

    But that's me... and it was the worst scenario, a bad call that influenced the outcome of a close, hard fought game.

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