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  • The Cysko Kid T Conversation Starter Reacting Well Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Week One Done One Month Later One Year In
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    T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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    I'm good on suh

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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      I'm good on suh

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      MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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      @the-cysko-kid said:

      I'm good on suh

      At $22 mil?....really?

      So, which starters should we cut to pay for him?(about 5 or 6 good ones should do it)

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        T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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        No I'm good on him. We don't need him. He's a dirty player and I don't want to see him in brown. I'm good.

        Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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        • Mudfly MudflyM Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Dedicated One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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          MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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          Gotcha!...It's good that you're good.....😉

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            andeftwA andeftw wrote on last edited by
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            As a Packers fan (and a Browns fan secondly), I've seen plenty of this guy ever since I started following football a few years ago.

            He's a terrific player whom you have to account for on any play, but he's not worth what it's going to cost to bring him to Cleveland. He's on the same level as Gerald McCoy without the injury concerns but with character concerns. If McCoy's getting 14 mil a year, there's no way Suh is worth more than 15.

            Both the Browns and the Packers play a 3-4, so I don't see him as a good fit. A 3-4 DE is more of a run-stopper than a pass rusher, so you're giving up your teams future financial flexibility to play a guy out of position. Don't think Farmer is that kind of guy.

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              did he play for a and m?

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              The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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              @miktoxic said:

              did he play for a and m?

              Nebraska, same difference.

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                C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                Hell no, why was this even brought up? 20m? Holy fucking shit. We've got one of the best if not THE best cap situation in all of football....and we'd torpedo that right in the balls with one signing. Even if we moved to a 4-3 don't want him. IF he'd sign for 8-10m, that's a different story. The only high value front 7 FA I want the Browns looking at in the offseason is Justin Houston.

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                  miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                  i agree with diehard that we need some mean and nasties on our line(S). gotta think there will be a couple for farmer to choose from in the draft next year.

                  start feeding them pink insulation and dickel.

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                    Opal312O Opal312 wrote on last edited by
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                    Getting Suh could cause other players to demand more money. But a Super Bowl would shut them up. I still think the answer is to draft a younger version. Detroit is unloading his salary for a reason. They can't pay the other players. When one guy makes all that money teams tend to flounder. I.e. Jay Cutler, Flacco, .

                    DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!
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                    • Mudfly MudflyM Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Dedicated One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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                      MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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                      Id take Suh for 10mil too....hell we're paying Ruben 8 now(yikes!!!).

                      Houston would be so sweet, but I think they'll be making moves to keep him....franchise player?.....good chance....

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                        T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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                        Well hell, I guess I'll have to recruit us another Aggie then. LOL! 😉

                        http://denver.cbslocal.com/2014/05/01/broncos-pick-up-5th-year-option-on-von-millers-contract/

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                          Well hell, I guess I'll have to recruit us another Aggie then. LOL! 😉

                          http://denver.cbslocal.com/2014/05/01/broncos-pick-up-5th-year-option-on-von-millers-contract/

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                          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                          @texasag1969 said:

                          Well hell, I guess I'll have to recruit us another Aggie then. LOL! 😉

                          http://denver.cbslocal.com/2014/05/01/broncos-pick-up-5th-year-option-on-von-millers-contract/

                          Us? What do you mean Us Kemo Sabe?

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                            Pats_Fan93P Pats_Fan93 wrote on last edited by
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                            Donkey-Kong Suh is a beast. But he needs to quit playing like a dirty bitch. Either way, he'd be on your side so that probly wouldn't matter as much 😉

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                              R RoyceRolls wrote on last edited by
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                                B Buck The Frowns wrote on last edited by Buck The Frowns
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                                A Boy Named Suh is already the Lions' all time sack leader for DT. A force to be reckoned with, and a dirty player if he is your opponent but tough and an intense competitor if he is on your team.

                                But if someone signs him what do you they use to pay the rest of the team? Everyone would want to renegotiate.

                                No fear of Pittsburgh signing him, they have invested their big defensive money in ultra lightweight titanium walkers for Taylor and Polamalu so they have a better shot at covering A.J. Green this Sunday.

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                                  C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                                  tbh, I've been at two Detroit games the last couple years...including last years shovel pass bowl. Suh didn't stand out to me in either game. Our O line looked like they kept him in check, maybe not entirely but he didn't dominate the game. And I've made my feelings about our O line clear. Just get an SEC D lineman in the 2nd or 3rd round. If by some miracle though Bosa is there when we pick....I think we have to take him. What I've seen from Bosa this year has me thinking he's the next Watt but possibly better. I say that because I think he's already a better run stopper than Watt was his first two years in the NFL. I understand Watt had to transition from a strict 4-3 DE in college whereas Bosa's been moved around much more. But Bosa's showing that off shoulder edge rush that Watt has when he's lined up as a 4-3 DE and also shows interior line moves when they move him inside....and he's so fucking disciplined against run. That's what impresses me the most. I love that. He looks run first than releases to the QB like a boss. I'd much rather draft him, if possible, than sign a giant monkey like Suh who I really don't like. And it's not so much for his onfield shit as it is for me me attitude. Like he thinks he's a DL diva. We let wr's get away with that...not the trench guys.

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                                    As a Packers fan (and a Browns fan secondly), I've seen plenty of this guy ever since I started following football a few years ago.

                                    He's a terrific player whom you have to account for on any play, but he's not worth what it's going to cost to bring him to Cleveland. He's on the same level as Gerald McCoy without the injury concerns but with character concerns. If McCoy's getting 14 mil a year, there's no way Suh is worth more than 15.

                                    Both the Browns and the Packers play a 3-4, so I don't see him as a good fit. A 3-4 DE is more of a run-stopper than a pass rusher, so you're giving up your teams future financial flexibility to play a guy out of position. Don't think Farmer is that kind of guy.

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                                    Flyin JF Flyin J wrote on last edited by
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                                    @andeftw said:

                                    As a Packers fan (and a Browns fan secondly), I've seen plenty of this guy ever since I started following football a few years ago.

                                    He's a terrific player whom you have to account for on any play, but he's not worth what it's going to cost to bring him to Cleveland. He's on the same level as Gerald McCoy without the injury concerns but with character concerns. If McCoy's getting 14 mil a year, there's no way Suh is worth more than 15.

                                    Both the Browns and the Packers play a 3-4, so I don't see him as a good fit. A 3-4 DE is more of a run-stopper than a pass rusher, so you're giving up your teams future financial flexibility to play a guy out of position. Don't think Farmer is that kind of guy.

                                    He would fit great as a 3/4 end and be the best in the league. NT will be a big need for us in the offseason, I doubt Rubin will be back. Were pretty good on the Ends, and deep. Hell Id bet Suh would be a great there too, but he wouldnt want to play it. From what Ive heard hes a good guy off the field and in the locker room. Hes just does dumb shit sometimes.
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                                      @andeftw said:

                                      As a Packers fan (and a Browns fan secondly), I've seen plenty of this guy ever since I started following football a few years ago.

                                      He's a terrific player whom you have to account for on any play, but he's not worth what it's going to cost to bring him to Cleveland. He's on the same level as Gerald McCoy without the injury concerns but with character concerns. If McCoy's getting 14 mil a year, there's no way Suh is worth more than 15.

                                      Both the Browns and the Packers play a 3-4, so I don't see him as a good fit. A 3-4 DE is more of a run-stopper than a pass rusher, so you're giving up your teams future financial flexibility to play a guy out of position. Don't think Farmer is that kind of guy.

                                      He would fit great as a 3/4 end and be the best in the league. NT will be a big need for us in the offseason, I doubt Rubin will be back. Were pretty good on the Ends, and deep. Hell Id bet Suh would be a great there too, but he wouldnt want to play it. From what Ive heard hes a good guy off the field and in the locker room. Hes just does dumb shit sometimes.
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                                      C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                                      XxDaBuckeyexX said:

                                      He would fit great as a 3/4 end and be the best in the league. NT will be a big need for us in the offseason, I doubt Rubin will be back. Were pretty good on the Ends, and deep. Hell Id bet Suh would be a great there too, but he wouldnt want to play it. From what Ive heard hes a good guy off the field and in the locker room. Hes just does dumb shit sometimes.

                                      Watt is the best 3-4 DE in the league....Suh wouldn't come close. Watt is everybit as strong and fast, if not stronger and faster, and simply more driven. I don't think Suh would be any better than Mugshot personally at the 3-4 5 tech.

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                                        Flyin JF Flyin J wrote on last edited by
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                                        OK after Watt

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                                          MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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                                          Watt is like from another planet...There's him ....then everybody else....if ANY defender is worth QB money, it's him.....

                                          Suh has pretty average #'s(38 tkl/5.5 sks) overall, though I know he occupies and disrupts more than the stats show. He creates for others, so to speak.....but him and Bryant have the same basic tackles/sacks and Bryant missed a bunch of games early....

                                          I agree that BOSA could be the next GREAT one.....a complete player in every way!

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