PFT on Quinn
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The fact that we are debating a PFT talk article makes us all the much dumber. Florio hates the Browns and makes it a point to bad mouth them a few times a month. This is a media smoke screen. They are trying to raise DAs value.
AGAIN...PFT is terrible. We should have this thread locked...
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Let me be the perspective guy here:
Quinn is a first-round pick an hasn't gotten any legitimate chance to play yet.
Can anyone name me the last first round pick by any team who never played any meaningful games and was traded? Let's qualify it further to, say, in the last 5 years.
Unless Quinn is the biggest bust of all time, he needs to play for us to determine his worth. That should happen this year.
If he needs to earn it, fine, let him earn it and make him compete with someone else.
But that someone else shouldn't be DA and it's for two reasons.
1. He's got way too much baggage in Cleveland now. It was fine when he had no expectations on him and nobody cared how he did but now that everyone is gunning for him, I just don't see how he survives that. Nothing in his history suggests he's the chip-on-the-shoulder kind of guy. Rather, history shows that he's more likely to fold than to rise to the challenge.
2. He has much more trade value now than he will later. We already missed the boat on trading him once. Can we afford to do it again? Say we bring him back and let him compete with Quinn and ManKok chooses Quinn and DA is finally and officially relegated to the bench. What is his value then? And are we willing to risk that scenario?
We should take nothing ManKok says at face value until training camp. Until then, everything is speculation EXCEPT the fact that DA's trade value will never be higher than this offseason.
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@shepwrite said:
Taylor called bullshit on the article... and he's affiliated with PFT, so that's serious.Johnny Cakes Taylor has never reported anything other than Quinn = god for the past 2 years.
But it hasn't turned out that way.
Johnny Cakes Taylor is nothing more than a Quinn Fag.
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Here's the real story, direct from Anderson.
Nobody knows what's going to happen...
"We really don't know what will happen at this point!" Anderson said Wednesday via email. "I'm under contract for two more seasons in Cleveland and I owe them my full attention as long as I am a Cleveland Brown."
http://blog.oregonlive.com/nfl/2009/02/new..._might_not.html
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Here's the real story, direct from Anderson.
Nobody knows what's going to happen...
"We really don't know what will happen at this point!" Anderson said Wednesday via email. "I'm under contract for two more seasons in Cleveland and I owe them my full attention as long as I am a Cleveland Brown."
http://blog.oregonlive.com/nfl/2009/02/new..._might_not.html
Here's the real story, direct from Anderson.
Nobody knows what's going to happen...
"We really don't know what will happen at this point!" Anderson said Wednesday via email. "I'm under contract for two more seasons in Cleveland and I owe them my full attention as long as I am a Cleveland Brown."
http://blog.oregonlive.com/nfl/2009/02/new..._might_not.html
so! your lover has your email address!
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@shepwrite said:
Taylor called bullshit on the article... and he's affiliated with PFT, so that's serious.Johnny Cakes Taylor has never reported anything other than Quinn = god for the past 2 years.
But it hasn't turned out that way.
Johnny Cakes Taylor is nothing more than a Quinn Fag.
Johnny Cakes Taylor has never reported anything other than Quinn = god for the past 2 years.
But it hasn't turned out that way.
Johnny Cakes Taylor is nothing more than a Quinn Fag.
The world is chock full of Queen fags my friend. There's 3 billion Chinese that worship at the altar of the Queen.
Bunch of homos I tells ya.
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@shepwrite said:
I'll say this for the 100th time: If Anderson beats out Quinn in a legit competition, he deserves the job.He deserves the job? Anderson beat out Quinn last fall, even you were on this board touting his accomplishments in fall practice. My oh my how opinion changes when things don't go perfectly.
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@shepwrite said:
I'll say this for the 100th time: If Anderson beats out Quinn in a legit competition, he deserves the job.He deserves the job? Anderson beat out Quinn last fall, even you were on this board touting his accomplishments in fall practice. My oh my how opinion changes when things don't go perfectly.
He deserves the job? Anderson beat out Quinn last fall, even you were on this board touting his accomplishments in fall practice. My oh my how opinion changes when things don't go perfectly.
And look how he performed, dipshit.
That's exactly what he's saying. If Quinn is not good enough to beat Anderson in an open competition, we're xxxxed anyway.
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And Lum, here's why you have little street cred here.
From your posts, DA has no negatives and BQ has no positives.
Fanboys like you always take it on the chin in the forum world.
Most, if not all, of the pro-Quinn crowd here feels the same about these two points.
1. DA had his chance
2. BQ deserves a chance
It's not that DA is all bad or that Quinn is all good.
I agree nobody really knows what's going to happen. There are stranger things in life than starting QB quandries.
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@shepwrite said:
I'll say this for the 100th time: If Anderson beats out Quinn in a legit competition, he deserves the job.He deserves the job? Anderson beat out Quinn last fall, even you were on this board touting his accomplishments in fall practice. My oh my how opinion changes when things don't go perfectly.
He deserves the job? Anderson beat out Quinn last fall, even you were on this board touting his accomplishments in fall practice. My oh my how opinion changes when things don't go perfectly.
What are you smoking? There was no competition last training camp/preseason. DA was named the starter before the start of camp, CLE made a point of saying there was no competion, and DA played all of 1 preseason game.
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He deserves the job? Anderson beat out Quinn last fall, even you were on this board touting his accomplishments in fall practice. My oh my how opinion changes when things don't go perfectly.
What are you smoking? There was no competition last training camp/preseason. DA was named the starter before the start of camp, CLE made a point of saying there was no competion, and DA played all of 1 preseason game.
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Masters said:
What are you smoking? There was no competition last training camp/preseason. DA was named the starter before the start of camp, CLE made a point of saying there was no competion, and DA played all of 1 preseason game.My oh my how memories change.
AdaM said:
My oh my how memories change.There was no competition last year. DA was named the starter on Jan 10th long before even the draft.
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...tart_quart.html
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Masters said:
What are you smoking? There was no competition last training camp/preseason. DA was named the starter before the start of camp, CLE made a point of saying there was no competion, and DA played all of 1 preseason game.My oh my how memories change.
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AdaM said:
My oh my how memories change.There was no competition last year. DA was named the starter on Jan 10th long before even the draft.
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...tart_quart.html
There was no competition last year. DA was named the starter on Jan 10th long before even the draft.
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...tart_quart.html
I am pretty sure AdaM was being sarcastic.
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Well if drunkstupid tries to come back there is a link to prove him wrong I guess.
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Well if drunkstupid tries to come back there is a link to prove him wrong I guess.
Well if drunkstupid tries to come back there is a link to prove him wrong I guess.
He doesn't have the mental capacity to find his way back, don't worry.
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Well if drunkstupid tries to come back there is a link to prove him wrong I guess.
Well if drunkstupid tries to come back there is a link to prove him wrong I guess.
Like Lummy, he'll just find his way to the next thread about QBs for CLE. It's the only thing they can attempt to talk about when it comes to the Browns, and they always run from threads where they are dead ass wrong.
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He deserves the job? Anderson beat out Quinn last fall, even you were on this board touting his accomplishments in fall practice. My oh my how opinion changes when things don't go perfectly.
What are you smoking? There was no competition last training camp/preseason. DA was named the starter before the start of camp, CLE made a point of saying there was no competion, and DA played all of 1 preseason game.
Masters said:
What are you smoking? There was no competition last training camp/preseason. DA was named the starter before the start of camp, CLE made a point of saying there was no competion, and DA played all of 1 preseason game.DA played all of one series in the first preseason game, looked all world. Quinn played the rest, looked OK.\
DA played maybe two series in game 2, got clobbered and had a concussion. Quinn played the rest of preseason.
The position was Quinn's for the taking. He threw only 1 TD pass all preseason, and that one was ripped out of a defenders hand by a Browns receiver, turning an Int into a TD.
Despite being out all preseason with a concussion and very little practice with his receivers in weeks, the Browns felt they HAD to play DA.
You just don't go playing a QB in DA's position the first game unless you feel he's your only option. DA may have been "named the starter" early on, but the reality is that Quinn had more opportunity than probably any other backup QB in the NFL to start the season at QB.
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Masters said:
What are you smoking? There was no competition last training camp/preseason. DA was named the starter before the start of camp, CLE made a point of saying there was no competion, and DA played all of 1 preseason game.DA played all of one series in the first preseason game, looked all world. Quinn played the rest, looked OK.\
DA played maybe two series in game 2, got clobbered and had a concussion. Quinn played the rest of preseason.
The position was Quinn's for the taking. He threw only 1 TD pass all preseason, and that one was ripped out of a defenders hand by a Browns receiver, turning an Int into a TD.
Despite being out all preseason with a concussion and very little practice with his receivers in weeks, the Browns felt they HAD to play DA.
You just don't go playing a QB in DA's position the first game unless you feel he's your only option. DA may have been "named the starter" early on, but the reality is that Quinn had more opportunity than probably any other backup QB in the NFL to start the season at QB.
DA played all of one series in the first preseason game, looked all world. Quinn played the rest, looked OK.\
DA played maybe two series in game 2, got clobbered and had a concussion. Quinn played the rest of preseason.
The position was Quinn's for the taking. He threw only 1 TD pass all preseason, and that one was ripped out of a defenders hand by a Browns receiver, turning an Int into a TD.
Despite being out all preseason with a concussion and very little practice with his receivers in weeks, the Browns felt they HAD to play DA.
You just don't go playing a QB in DA's position the first game unless you feel he's your only option. DA may have been "named the starter" early on, but the reality is that Quinn had more opportunity than probably any other backup QB in the NFL to start the season at QB.
Wrong, Opie 'had' to play DA.
Then when Lerner saw the results, he made the change.
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