JF has 200 more starts for the browns....
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Manziel looked like a high school player playing with men out there. I say fuck Manziel. Put Hoyer back in for the last two games. If we stick with JF and get trounced the last two games to go to 7-9, do you realize the damage psychologically that will do to this team going into next year? Try to end on a positive note by beating the Ravens. Only Hoyer could accomplish
this.
Plus, JF is one ugly fuck.
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to me he's got two more games and if he can't produce or even look like a NFL player then then the QB wheel spins again.
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to me he's got two more games and if he can't produce or even look like a NFL player then then the QB wheel spins again.
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Zombo, it is only one game, too early to lose your Man-zeal. He may take a year to hit his stride. Personally I feel his style is better suited to the CFL but he at least has a possible upside. Take a Valium and a deep breath.
Fuck that dicklicker, get me an NFL QB with real size and a real arm.
Z
Zombo said:
Fuck that dicklicker, get me an NFL QB with real size and a real arm.
Z
Name me one player that played well Sunday Zombo. The punter?
The team as a whole, collectively played like Absolute dong.
Johnny had no chance.
Was he bad? Yes. Did he play like a rook? Yes.
Did the team elevate their play around Johnny to increase his chances at success? No
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@everlastingxxx said:
We have to temper expectations. I am probably at fault for expecting too much too soon. I didnt know what to expect once he got in there. I thought it would be a mixed bag, i didnt expect a complete disaster performance.
From here on out I am looking for improvement each week. Does he learn from his mistakes? Do you see progress? That really is the key. Nothing like live bullets and a shot of humility. I am happy for Johnny, he got de-flowered. Hopefully the media backs off a little and lets him learn and develope like any other rookie is suppose to.
If by "de-flowered" you mean "butt-fucked" and on a flexed to the max, Fox Sports nationwide broadcast, good choice of words.
As for the media "back(ing) off"... good luck with that. They'd have loved a success story, but given that there's blood in the water now, they'll just as gladly take a full out feeding frenzy.
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@everlastingxxx said:
Just rewatched the game (well the Browns offense). Not as bad as i thought for Manziel. Some real positives and of course negatives. I think many of us owe Hoyer an apology because this offense, doesnt do shit to help their QB. That was my impression. Too many breakdowns on the o-line, WRs dont get open and dont fight for the ball, running backs not knowing the play calls, stupid penalties, blow plays. I mean, it was just poor execution on the entire offense. I thought the Bengals played everything perfect. Manziel missed a few throws, mostly because he hesitated. I think he sat in the pocket and went through his reads. Made some nice throws on the run. His foot work is his own style, if you wanted perfect foot work you should have drafted another QB. My prediction is he plays much better next week. I dont know if the offense will score alot of points but i think Johnny wont hesitate as much. I know the forum is losing its fucking mind, but i feel good about him still. Lots to stay positive about.
Big turn in sentiments in two-hours...
So his footwork deteriorated in the two-weeks since the Bills game? I'll have to watch for that because it was perfect then... excepting the two pressures... which is understandable.
What was your impression of JM's read-option reads? On the mark? Signs of rust?
What percentage of JM's 18 pass attempts would you say came out in the rhythm of the play, i.e., on time?
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Manziel could take a shit at midfield in both these next two games and he will start next year. The browns may use these games to evaluate a couple other positions, but qb is not one of them. And that would be true even if bh was still starting.
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Carolina's defense on the road is a tough matchup, especially what their front 7 will be able to do with pressure up the middle. JF not going to be able to step up through that, and unfortunately they've been doing a decent job of containing the edge as well.
And Baltimore is going to be hungry as hell the last week of the year, as they will likely have playoff ramifications.
Wouldn't be surprised if JF amd the browns offense continues to struggle mightily these next two. But....patience. Process. It'll come...just not now:)
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Bernie Kosar....lmfao...he's a has been wannabe-a never was.
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Manziel could take a shit at midfield in both these next two games and he will start next year. The browns may use these games to evaluate a couple other positions, but qb is not one of them. And that would be true even if bh was still starting.
Manziel could also take a shit in your mouth and I suspect you'd like it.Manziel could take a shit at midfield in both these next two games and he will start next year. The browns may use these games to evaluate a couple other positions, but qb is not one of them. And that would be true even if bh was still starting.
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Bernie Kosar....lmfao...he's a has been wannabe-a never was.
Probably one of the smartest QB's I can remember in some time. A man that had it between the ears made up for his lack of athletic ability and awkward delivery.
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You know who would also be a pretty smart qb...relative to his arm and athletic ability? Stephen hawking. And I don't want him leading our team either.
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Pettine has shown he doesnt care about draft position. If manziel wants to presume he starts, he'll watch Shaw do the throwing.
But: Manziel was the first one in the facility and the last one out all week.. so all you who say he isn't working now.. are objectively wrong. That's from NFL network.
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Omg... go fuck yourself you texas size piece of shit.
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You know who would also be a pretty smart qb...relative to his arm and athletic ability? Stephen hawking. And I don't want him leading our team either.
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You know who would also be a pretty smart qb...relative to his arm and athletic ability? Stephen hawking. And I don't want him leading our team either.
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Pettine has shown he doesnt care about draft position. If manziel wants to presume he starts, he'll watch Shaw do the throwing.
But: Manziel was the first one in the facility and the last one out all week.. so all you who say he isn't working now.. are objectively wrong. That's from NFL network.
Pettine has shown he doesnt care about draft position. If manziel wants to presume he starts, he'll watch Shaw do the throwing.
But: Manziel was the first one in the facility and the last one out all week.. so all you who say he isn't working now.. are objectively wrong. That's from NFL network.
Sure he's working hard now. Was he working hard the previous 14 weeks? Sunday's games says no..
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Bernie Kosar....lmfao...he's a has been wannabe-a never was.
Some questions for you.
Do you know anything about football?
Why do you talk like a 12 year old girl?
Do you take it up the ass from some man named taco?
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