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  • T Tobalaz

    I believe had he received support without every fool in Ohio breathing down his neck he'd have had us at 10-6 by the season's end.

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    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    @tobalaz said:

    I believe had he received support without every fool in Ohio breathing down his neck he'd have had us at 10-6 by the season's end.

    Sometimes a pronoun doesn't cut it...

    @tacosman said:

    I think we have a long way to go as a team. But stability at the qb position, which we have now, is one plus at least.

    Told y'all this one was not as bright as StockBoy.

    @bbedward said:

    He may prefer to leave if he has a better chance to start somewhere else though.

    I believe he is a man of his word, so that would be the case.

    That said his odds of starting in CLE next year did get a boost recently.

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      @ibleedbrown said:

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      You think what we saw today was "stability at the QB position?"

      Come on Stock. You know better than that. The rest of the team has to be able to be led by the guy. Did you see that?

      What we saw today was not a good game by our qb. A bad game from a position which is now stable though.

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      @tacosman said:

      What we saw today was not a good game by our qb. A bad game from a position which is now stable though.

      You either need to take your meds or you are a straight up troll , maybe both.
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        First round next year will be DL&LB. Second round will be OL.

        We already have next yr's backup on the roster: Connor Shaw.

        If JF sucks, it's Connor Cook time in 2016.

        The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
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        • W Westside Steve

          So hope is no longer a plan.

          Well then. ..

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          Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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          @westside-steve said:

          So hope is no longer a plan.

          Forgot to ask, "Is it ever?"

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            @westside-steve said:

            So hope is no longer a plan.

            Forgot to ask, "Is it ever?"

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            @tour2ma said:

            Forgot to ask, "Is it ever?"

            Yes it certainly should be.

            And, IMO, I think it could be a better plan than burning everything down and rebuilding every season or two.

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              berniedenslowB berniedenslow wrote on last edited by
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              Hi, I'm Jimmy Hasbeen, owner of the Browns, and I like to rebuild every 6 months!

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                Hi, I'm Jimmy Hasbeen, owner of the Browns, and I like to rebuild every 6 months!

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                @berniedenslow said:

                Hi, I'm Jimmy Hasbeen, owner of the Browns, and I like to rebuild every 6 months!

                And that might be one of the rare times I've been okay with the quick trigger. From what I've heard Joe Banner and Mike Lombardi duo was forced on the Browns by the league.

                I think either by luck or by forethought Jimmy made a good decision with the coach and front office.

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                • W Westside Steve

                  @berniedenslow said:

                  Hi, I'm Jimmy Hasbeen, owner of the Browns, and I like to rebuild every 6 months!

                  And that might be one of the rare times I've been okay with the quick trigger. From what I've heard Joe Banner and Mike Lombardi duo was forced on the Browns by the league.

                  I think either by luck or by forethought Jimmy made a good decision with the coach and front office.

                  WSS

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                  tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                  @westside-steve said:

                  And that might be one of the rare times I've been okay with the quick trigger. From what I've heard Joe Banner and Mike Lombardi duo was forced on the Browns by the league.

                  I think either by luck or by forethought Jimmy made a good decision with the coach and front office.

                  WSS

                  Not at all. That was Haslam's error from day one. He hired Banner knowing full well that eventually Lombardi would be brought on board. Him getting rid of both - let's just say Cleveland fans owe thanks to Peyton Manning.

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                    @tour2ma said:

                    Forgot to ask, "Is it ever?"

                    Yes it certainly should be.

                    And, IMO, I think it could be a better plan than burning everything down and rebuilding every season or two.

                    WSS

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                    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                    @westside-steve said:

                    Yes it certainly should be.

                    And, IMO, I think it could be a better plan than burning everything down and rebuilding every season or two.

                    I'd say "hope" is the worst plan in the world... if it qualified as a plan.

                    But if it was a plan, then it might be second only to the annual burn-down in a list of worsts. Of course, when you are repeatedly burning down an org, it is usually followed by hoping you do better this next time.

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                      @berniedenslow said:

                      Hi, I'm Jimmy Hasbeen, owner of the Browns, and I like to rebuild every 6 months!

                      And that might be one of the rare times I've been okay with the quick trigger. From what I've heard Joe Banner and Mike Lombardi duo was forced on the Browns by the league.

                      I think either by luck or by forethought Jimmy made a good decision with the coach and front office.

                      WSS

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                      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                      @westside-steve said:

                      And that might be one of the rare times I've been okay with the quick trigger. From what I've heard Joe Banner and Mike Lombardi duo was forced on the Browns by the league.

                      I think either by luck or by forethought Jimmy made a good decision with the coach and front office.

                      Yes, forced and, yes, a great call by Jimmy to flush the pair of them.

                      However, I would not attribute his decision to luck or forethought. While I think he liked neither the arm's length they imposed nor the decisions they made, e.g., Chud, I believe at the core of his reorg decision was a CEO's hatred of a padded Org Chart.

                      Clear lines of authority and responsibility are a CEO's wet dream. Banner and Lombo muddied up the lines.

                      Also did not hurt that he likely saw talent in Farmer and Pet.

                      Just my $0.02.

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                      • berniedenslowB berniedenslow

                        Hi, I'm Jimmy Hasbeen, owner of the Browns, and I like to rebuild every 6 months!

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                        jcam222J jcam222 wrote on last edited by
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                        @berniedenslow said:

                        Hi, I'm Jimmy Hasbeen, owner of the Browns, and I like to rebuild every 6 months!

                        The sad thing is based on the content of your posting you probably do believe you're him. Who do you think you are after you take your meds?
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                          Just one thing.....................can ANYBODY remember a more [fill in the blank] thread title on this board.

                          My top 3 [fill in the blanks], in no particular order:

                          Nerdiest

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                            Just one thing.....................can ANYBODY remember a more [fill in the blank] thread title on this board.

                            My top 3 [fill in the blanks], in no particular order:

                            Nerdiest

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                            @chicopee-john said:

                            Just one thing.....................can ANYBODY remember a more [fill in the blank] thread title on this board.

                            Nerdiest

                            more nerdiest?

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                              • C Chicopee John

                                Just one thing.....................can ANYBODY remember a more [fill in the blank] thread title on this board.

                                My top 3 [fill in the blanks], in no particular order:

                                Nerdiest

                                Pathetic

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                                @chicopee-john said:

                                Just one thing.....................can ANYBODY remember a more [fill in the blank] thread title on this board.

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                                Nerdiest

                                Pathetic

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                                I'd add 'Gay'

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                                  Just one thing.....................can ANYBODY remember a more [fill in the blank] thread title on this board.

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                                  When the gaying gets tough, the forum turns to DieHard...

                                  @chicopee-john said:

                                  Just one thing.....................can ANYBODY remember a more [fill in the blank] thread title on this board.

                                  loyal

                                  heartfelt

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                                    My top 3 [fill in the blanks], in no particular order:

                                    Nerdiest

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                                    slimdawgS slimdawg wrote on last edited by
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                                    @chicopee-john said:

                                    Just one thing.....................can ANYBODY remember a more [fill in the blank] thread title on this board.

                                    My top 3 [fill in the blanks], in no particular order:

                                    Nerdiest

                                    Pathetic

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                                    Dont see any problem with it at all, nothin but the truth is all. Tired of just blowing through qb's year after year. This year we had pretty decent QB play, but instead of sticking with him and putting in the time and effort to help him get better, just toss em aside and move on to the next sacrificial lamb for Cleveland. Only this time the sacrifice will be televised coast to coast.

                                    !!!!hopefully i'll be alive when it happens!!!!
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                                      Opal312O Opal312 wrote on last edited by
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                                      It used to be they developed a quarterback. Not anymore! If Bradshaw was coming out today, good luck! Teams won't wait to develop a guy. And there aren't many Andrew Lucks' graduating anytime soon. Say goodbye to; Geno Smith, EJ Manuel, Christian Ponder, Jake Locker and pretty soon Colin Kaepernick.

                                      DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!
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                                        It used to be they developed a quarterback. Not anymore! If Bradshaw was coming out today, good luck! Teams won't wait to develop a guy. And there aren't many Andrew Lucks' graduating anytime soon. Say goodbye to; Geno Smith, EJ Manuel, Christian Ponder, Jake Locker and pretty soon Colin Kaepernick.

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                                        slimdawgS slimdawg wrote on last edited by slimdawg
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                                        @opal312 said:

                                        It used to be they developed a quarterback. Not anymore! If Bradshaw was coming out today, good luck! Teams won't wait to develop a guy. And there aren't many Andrew Lucks' graduating anytime soon. Say goodbye to; Geno Smith, EJ Manuel, Christian Ponder, Jake Locker and pretty soon Colin Kaepernick.

                                        Yep pretty much, everyone has to have instant gratification and instant returns. Life isnt made in a microwave. I think the media is ruining it all.

                                        !!!!hopefully i'll be alive when it happens!!!!
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                                          @opal312 said:

                                          It used to be they developed a quarterback. Not anymore! If Bradshaw was coming out today, good luck! Teams won't wait to develop a guy. And there aren't many Andrew Lucks' graduating anytime soon. Say goodbye to; Geno Smith, EJ Manuel, Christian Ponder, Jake Locker and pretty soon Colin Kaepernick.

                                          Yep pretty much, everyone has to have instant gratification and instant returns. Life isnt made in a microwave. I think the media is ruining it all.

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                                          IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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                                          @slimdawg said:

                                          Yep pretty much, everyone has to have instant gratification and instant returns. Life isnt made in a microwave. I think the media is ruining it all.

                                          Microwave.

                                          You ever put metal in it? It catches fire!

                                          Metal!

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